Harvard says it’s been giving too many A grades to students

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I know everything is political today and about culture wars but these kids, at elite schools like Harvard, are our future business and political leaders. To me, these kids not being challenged is not good for the future of our country.



Harvard says it’s been giving too many A grades to students


More than half of the grades handed out at Harvard College are A’s, an increase from decades past even as school officials have sounded the alarm for years about rampant grade inflation.

About 60% of the grades handed out in classes for the university’s undergraduate program are A’s, up from 40% a decade ago and less than a quarter 20 years ago, according to a report released Monday by Harvard’s Office of Undergraduate Education. Other elite universities, including competing Ivy League schools, have also been struggling to rein in grade inflation.

The report’s author, Harvard undergraduate dean Amanda Claybaugh, urged faculty to curtail the practice of awarding top scores to the majority of students, saying it undermines academic culture.

“Current practices are not only failing to perform the key functions of grading; they are also damaging the academic culture of the college more generally,” she said in the report.

Harvard’s academic programs are under additional scrutiny because of the Trump administration’s investigations into the university and broader efforts to remake higher education in the US. Federal officials have asked universities to sign a compact that includes commitments to “grade integrity” and the use of “defensible standards” when evaluating students.

One reason why grade inflation has increased at Harvard is concern among faculty about being tougher than their peers and thereby discouraging enrollment in their courses, Claybaugh said in the study, which was reported earlier by the Harvard Crimson.

Administrators have contributed to the issue by telling professors they should be mindful that some students struggle with “imposter syndrome” or have difficult family situations, she said. In addition, Harvard students, while not the “snowflake” stereotypes they’re sometimes made out to be, pressure their professors for better grades, according to the report.

The cutoff for earning summa cum laude honors at Harvard is now 3.989, higher than previous years. However, the number of first-year students with a 4.0 grade point average decreased by about 12% in the most recently completed academic year compared with the prior period. That’s a sign of progress and a reminder that the university isn’t “at the mercy of inexorable trends, that the grades we give don’t always have to rise,” Claybaugh said.

The Harvard report recommended that faculty share the median grades for courses and review the distribution of grades over time. A separate university committee is considering allowing faculty to give out a limited number of A+ grades, a break from Harvard’s current top grade of A. Such a move “would increase the information our grades provide by distinguishing the very best students,” Claybaugh said.

Administrators can also help mitigate grade inflation by better valuing rigorous teaching processes in faculty reviews, she said.


 
The gist of all this is schools think if they grade too hard, kids will pick other schools as grad schools and employers look at GPA's. And professors know their course evaluations affect their performance rating and ability to get tenure, so they don't want to upset the kids.

That's what is driving this grade inflation.
 
I know everything is political today and about culture wars but these kids, at elite schools like Harvard, are our future business and political leaders. To me, these kids not being challenged is not good for the future of our country.



Harvard says it’s been giving too many A grades to students


More than half of the grades handed out at Harvard College are A’s, an increase from decades past even as school officials have sounded the alarm for years about rampant grade inflation.

About 60% of the grades handed out in classes for the university’s undergraduate program are A’s, up from 40% a decade ago and less than a quarter 20 years ago, according to a report released Monday by Harvard’s Office of Undergraduate Education. Other elite universities, including competing Ivy League schools, have also been struggling to rein in grade inflation.

The report’s author, Harvard undergraduate dean Amanda Claybaugh, urged faculty to curtail the practice of awarding top scores to the majority of students, saying it undermines academic culture.

“Current practices are not only failing to perform the key functions of grading; they are also damaging the academic culture of the college more generally,” she said in the report.

Harvard’s academic programs are under additional scrutiny because of the Trump administration’s investigations into the university and broader efforts to remake higher education in the US. Federal officials have asked universities to sign a compact that includes commitments to “grade integrity” and the use of “defensible standards” when evaluating students.

One reason why grade inflation has increased at Harvard is concern among faculty about being tougher than their peers and thereby discouraging enrollment in their courses, Claybaugh said in the study, which was reported earlier by the Harvard Crimson.

Administrators have contributed to the issue by telling professors they should be mindful that some students struggle with “imposter syndrome” or have difficult family situations, she said. In addition, Harvard students, while not the “snowflake” stereotypes they’re sometimes made out to be, pressure their professors for better grades, according to the report.

The cutoff for earning summa cum laude honors at Harvard is now 3.989, higher than previous years. However, the number of first-year students with a 4.0 grade point average decreased by about 12% in the most recently completed academic year compared with the prior period. That’s a sign of progress and a reminder that the university isn’t “at the mercy of inexorable trends, that the grades we give don’t always have to rise,” Claybaugh said.

The Harvard report recommended that faculty share the median grades for courses and review the distribution of grades over time. A separate university committee is considering allowing faculty to give out a limited number of A+ grades, a break from Harvard’s current top grade of A. Such a move “would increase the information our grades provide by distinguishing the very best students,” Claybaugh said.

Administrators can also help mitigate grade inflation by better valuing rigorous teaching processes in faculty reviews, she said.


Should they have enrolled in Trump University instead? LOL

Grade inflation is a problem in far too many US schools all the way to First Grade.

Worries about whether course grades are communicating distorted information are nothing new. Educational psychologist Guy Montrose Whipple wrote in 1913 that the “marking system” was “an absolutely uncalibrated instrument.” In our day, study after study shows that grades are soaring. Data from the ACT show that, in 2021, the composite score was the worst of any year reported going back a decade, but that same year, ACT test-takers logged the highest average grade point average (GPA) ever recorded. Since the beginning of the pandemic, even students at the 25th percentile of ACT performance (i.e., students performing far below average) have boasted GPAs above 3.0. That means these low-performing students received more A grades than Cs, Ds, and Fs combined. A pre-pandemic Fordham report that used data from North Carolina showed that more than one-third of students receiving B grades in Algebra I failed to achieve proficiency on the end-of-course exam, and post-pandemic studies from North Carolina and Washington State have shown further upticks in grade inflation in the wake of the pandemic.
 
I know everything is political today and about culture wars but these kids, at elite schools like Harvard, are our future business and political leaders. To me, these kids not being challenged is not good for the future of our country.



Harvard says it’s been giving too many A grades to students


More than half of the grades handed out at Harvard College are A’s, an increase from decades past even as school officials have sounded the alarm for years about rampant grade inflation.

About 60% of the grades handed out in classes for the university’s undergraduate program are A’s, up from 40% a decade ago and less than a quarter 20 years ago, according to a report released Monday by Harvard’s Office of Undergraduate Education. Other elite universities, including competing Ivy League schools, have also been struggling to rein in grade inflation.

The report’s author, Harvard undergraduate dean Amanda Claybaugh, urged faculty to curtail the practice of awarding top scores to the majority of students, saying it undermines academic culture.

“Current practices are not only failing to perform the key functions of grading; they are also damaging the academic culture of the college more generally,” she said in the report.

Harvard’s academic programs are under additional scrutiny because of the Trump administration’s investigations into the university and broader efforts to remake higher education in the US. Federal officials have asked universities to sign a compact that includes commitments to “grade integrity” and the use of “defensible standards” when evaluating students.

One reason why grade inflation has increased at Harvard is concern among faculty about being tougher than their peers and thereby discouraging enrollment in their courses, Claybaugh said in the study, which was reported earlier by the Harvard Crimson.

Administrators have contributed to the issue by telling professors they should be mindful that some students struggle with “imposter syndrome” or have difficult family situations, she said. In addition, Harvard students, while not the “snowflake” stereotypes they’re sometimes made out to be, pressure their professors for better grades, according to the report.

The cutoff for earning summa cum laude honors at Harvard is now 3.989, higher than previous years. However, the number of first-year students with a 4.0 grade point average decreased by about 12% in the most recently completed academic year compared with the prior period. That’s a sign of progress and a reminder that the university isn’t “at the mercy of inexorable trends, that the grades we give don’t always have to rise,” Claybaugh said.

The Harvard report recommended that faculty share the median grades for courses and review the distribution of grades over time. A separate university committee is considering allowing faculty to give out a limited number of A+ grades, a break from Harvard’s current top grade of A. Such a move “would increase the information our grades provide by distinguishing the very best students,” Claybaugh said.

Administrators can also help mitigate grade inflation by better valuing rigorous teaching processes in faculty reviews, she said.


Many universities do this. 'Look how brilliant our students are!'
 
I know everything is political today and about culture wars but these kids, at elite schools like Harvard, are our future business and political leaders. To me, these kids not being challenged is not good for the future of our country.



Harvard says it’s been giving too many A grades to students


More than half of the grades handed out at Harvard College are A’s, an increase from decades past even as school officials have sounded the alarm for years about rampant grade inflation.

About 60% of the grades handed out in classes for the university’s undergraduate program are A’s, up from 40% a decade ago and less than a quarter 20 years ago, according to a report released Monday by Harvard’s Office of Undergraduate Education. Other elite universities, including competing Ivy League schools, have also been struggling to rein in grade inflation.

The report’s author, Harvard undergraduate dean Amanda Claybaugh, urged faculty to curtail the practice of awarding top scores to the majority of students, saying it undermines academic culture.

“Current practices are not only failing to perform the key functions of grading; they are also damaging the academic culture of the college more generally,” she said in the report.

Harvard’s academic programs are under additional scrutiny because of the Trump administration’s investigations into the university and broader efforts to remake higher education in the US. Federal officials have asked universities to sign a compact that includes commitments to “grade integrity” and the use of “defensible standards” when evaluating students.

One reason why grade inflation has increased at Harvard is concern among faculty about being tougher than their peers and thereby discouraging enrollment in their courses, Claybaugh said in the study, which was reported earlier by the Harvard Crimson.

Administrators have contributed to the issue by telling professors they should be mindful that some students struggle with “imposter syndrome” or have difficult family situations, she said. In addition, Harvard students, while not the “snowflake” stereotypes they’re sometimes made out to be, pressure their professors for better grades, according to the report.

The cutoff for earning summa cum laude honors at Harvard is now 3.989, higher than previous years. However, the number of first-year students with a 4.0 grade point average decreased by about 12% in the most recently completed academic year compared with the prior period. That’s a sign of progress and a reminder that the university isn’t “at the mercy of inexorable trends, that the grades we give don’t always have to rise,” Claybaugh said.

The Harvard report recommended that faculty share the median grades for courses and review the distribution of grades over time. A separate university committee is considering allowing faculty to give out a limited number of A+ grades, a break from Harvard’s current top grade of A. Such a move “would increase the information our grades provide by distinguishing the very best students,” Claybaugh said.

Administrators can also help mitigate grade inflation by better valuing rigorous teaching processes in faculty reviews, she said.


3.989 is an awfully tough ask.
Offspring #2 graduated Summa Cum Laude with a 3.8, I believe.
Offspring #1 graduated Magna.
I wouldn't believe that they were ours except for the DNA kits that came out.

We graduated...period.
 
The gist of all this is schools think if they grade too hard, kids will pick other schools as grad schools and employers look at GPA's. And professors know their course evaluations affect their performance rating and ability to get tenure, so they don't want to upset the kids.

That's what is driving this grade inflation.

It appears to be instructors that are responsible.
 
3.989 is an awfully tough ask.
Offspring #2 graduated Summa Cum Laude with a 3.8, I believe.
Offspring #1 graduated Magna.
I wouldn't believe that they were ours except for the DNA kits that came out.

We graduated...period.
Not to dismiss their accomplishments, but did they earn those before grade inflation went into full bloom? If so, that’s impressive. My parents did the same DNA test, unfortunately for the opposite reason.

What makes this story interesting is that Harvard reported it on themselves.
 
Not to dismiss their accomplishments, but did they earn those before grade inflation went into full bloom? If so, that’s impressive. My parents did the same DNA test, unfortunately for the opposite reason.

What makes this story interesting is that Harvard reported it on themselves.
What's odd about that? As my previous link and a quick Google search will prove, grade inflation has been a problem for decades.

The first step to solving any problem is to know you have one. That's been done for decades. The next step is what to do about it?

My recommendation is national testing from a randomized question bank. Make it part of college entrance exams. Rank schools that have a high GPA but average or lower testing average. Base funding on that equation. Speaking of which, increase the 8% Federal school funding and allocate the extra money to schools in poorer districts. Every American student should have a world class K-12 education. Better educated students make better workers/higher earning taxpayers and better soldiers.
 
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I know everything is political today and about culture wars but these kids, at elite schools like Harvard, are our future business and political leaders. To me, these kids not being challenged is not good for the future of our country.



Harvard says it’s been giving too many A grades to students


More than half of the grades handed out at Harvard College are A’s, an increase from decades past even as school officials have sounded the alarm for years about rampant grade inflation.

About 60% of the grades handed out in classes for the university’s undergraduate program are A’s, up from 40% a decade ago and less than a quarter 20 years ago, according to a report released Monday by Harvard’s Office of Undergraduate Education. Other elite universities, including competing Ivy League schools, have also been struggling to rein in grade inflation.

The report’s author, Harvard undergraduate dean Amanda Claybaugh, urged faculty to curtail the practice of awarding top scores to the majority of students, saying it undermines academic culture.

“Current practices are not only failing to perform the key functions of grading; they are also damaging the academic culture of the college more generally,” she said in the report.

Harvard’s academic programs are under additional scrutiny because of the Trump administration’s investigations into the university and broader efforts to remake higher education in the US. Federal officials have asked universities to sign a compact that includes commitments to “grade integrity” and the use of “defensible standards” when evaluating students.

One reason why grade inflation has increased at Harvard is concern among faculty about being tougher than their peers and thereby discouraging enrollment in their courses, Claybaugh said in the study, which was reported earlier by the Harvard Crimson.

Administrators have contributed to the issue by telling professors they should be mindful that some students struggle with “imposter syndrome” or have difficult family situations, she said. In addition, Harvard students, while not the “snowflake” stereotypes they’re sometimes made out to be, pressure their professors for better grades, according to the report.

The cutoff for earning summa cum laude honors at Harvard is now 3.989, higher than previous years. However, the number of first-year students with a 4.0 grade point average decreased by about 12% in the most recently completed academic year compared with the prior period. That’s a sign of progress and a reminder that the university isn’t “at the mercy of inexorable trends, that the grades we give don’t always have to rise,” Claybaugh said.

The Harvard report recommended that faculty share the median grades for courses and review the distribution of grades over time. A separate university committee is considering allowing faculty to give out a limited number of A+ grades, a break from Harvard’s current top grade of A. Such a move “would increase the information our grades provide by distinguishing the very best students,” Claybaugh said.

Administrators can also help mitigate grade inflation by better valuing rigorous teaching processes in faculty reviews, she said.


Who wants to low grades to some influential millionaires kid, besides, what kid doesn’t shop around to find the easiest professor

Seems like a Harvard concern and don’t understand why a entity like Fortune would find it noteworthy
 
Who wants to low grades to some influential millionaires kid, besides, what kid doesn’t shop around to find the easiest professor

Seems like a Harvard concern and don’t understand why a entity like Fortune would find it noteworthy
Harvard is one of the elite universities in the world. Grade inflation isn’t new, but the fact that a school with Harvard’s reputation called itself out for it is newsworthy.

Add in recent reports that many Harvard students don’t even attend class, and it’s not a great look. These are future leaders of our country, and this is not a positive sign for higher education or America.
 
Harvard is one of the elite universities in the world. Grade inflation isn’t new, but the fact that a school with Harvard’s reputation called itself out for it is newsworthy.

Add in recent reports that many Harvard students don’t even attend class, and it’s not a great look. These are future leaders of our country, and this is not a positive sign for higher education or America.
I posted excerpts from a NYTimes article 3 weeks ago.
 
Should they have enrolled in Trump University instead? LOL

Grade inflation is a problem in far too many US schools all the way to First Grade.

Worries about whether course grades are communicating distorted information are nothing new. Educational psychologist Guy Montrose Whipple wrote in 1913 that the “marking system” was “an absolutely uncalibrated instrument.” In our day, study after study shows that grades are soaring. Data from the ACT show that, in 2021, the composite score was the worst of any year reported going back a decade, but that same year, ACT test-takers logged the highest average grade point average (GPA) ever recorded. Since the beginning of the pandemic, even students at the 25th percentile of ACT performance (i.e., students performing far below average) have boasted GPAs above 3.0. That means these low-performing students received more A grades than Cs, Ds, and Fs combined. A pre-pandemic Fordham report that used data from North Carolina showed that more than one-third of students receiving B grades in Algebra I failed to achieve proficiency on the end-of-course exam, and post-pandemic studies from North Carolina and Washington State have shown further upticks in grade inflation in the wake of the pandemic.
I will say this about Harvard.

I watch a lot of those campus debates on YouTube, and you can always tell the Harvard kids from the Ohio State and Clemson kids. The Harvard kids are more than a cut above
 
Who wants to low grades to some influential millionaires kid, besides, what kid doesn’t shop around to find the easiest professor

Seems like a Harvard concern and don’t understand why a entity like Fortune would find it noteworthy

I posted excerpts from a NYTimes article 3 weeks ago.
I did read that article about the kids not going to class, it’s pretty eye-opening.

I equate it to any individual, team, organization, or even country that reaches the top and then begins to rest on its laurels. And that’s what’s happening at our elite universities, the kids are not being challenged in the same way. The issues with that don’t manifest themselves overnight, but they will in the long run.
 
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While Ohio State is ranked #41 nationally, which isn’t bad at all, it’s not Harvard. What’s interesting is how the comparison itself has shifted.

We used to compare Harvard students to the best minds around the world. Now some are dismissing Harvard’s own report about grade inflation and comparing Harvard students to students at state schools and calling it good enough. That says something about where we are as a country when it comes to education and expectations.
 
While Ohio State is ranked #41 nationally, which isn’t bad at all, it’s not Harvard. What’s interesting is how the comparison itself has shifted.

We used to compare Harvard students to the best minds around the world. Now some are dismissing Harvard’s own report about grade inflation and comparing Harvard students to students at state schools and calling it good enough. That says something about where we are as a country when it comes to education and expectations.
It is about power.
 
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