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Care to start freaking out about this, @Jarod, @christiefan915, @archives, etc.?

Please do.


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christiefan915 said:
The Art Deco was lot more timely than the Mar-a-Lago glitz.
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So you say.

The bathroom in the White House's Lincoln Bedroom (often called the "Lincoln Bathroom") was originally part of the 19th-century design but underwent a significant remodel during Democrat Harry Truman's administration in the 1940s. This update introduced green tiles and Art Deco elements, a modernist style popular in that era characterized by geometric patterns, streamlined forms, and bold materials. The remodel was part of with Truman's broader White House renovation, which no Democrats protested at the time. The Art Deco aesthetic was a mid-20th-century overlay on a room tied to Abraham Lincoln's 1860s legacy.

President Trump's 2025 remodeling of the same space replaced the historically incongruous Art Deco green tiles entirely with highly polished statuary marble floors, walls, and fixtures, a luxurious, classical white stone evoking ancient Roman and Renaissance grandeur.

Trump described the prior design as "totally inappropriate for the Lincoln Era"

The marble is a return to a style very appropriate for the time of Abraham Lincoln, potentially matching original 19th-century materials.

Photos show a stark before-and-after: the "before" features dated green tiles with geometric accents, while the "after" reveals a seamless marble expanse with modern plumbing integrated subtly. Marble was common in Lincoln-era federal buildings and symbolizes timeless American grandeur.

Mar-a-Lago's interiors are more eclectic, blending Mediterranean Revival elements like Spanish tiles and murals. It's worth noting, Christiecrite, that Mar-a-Lagos' interiors were designed by Joseph Urban, a Viennese-born architect, set designer, and decorator renowned for his opulent, theatrical style. Urban was commissioned by the estate's original owner, Marjorie Merriweather Post (heiress to the Post Cereals fortune), to create lavish, European-inspired interiors blending Spanish, Venetian, and Moorish influences. His work included gold-leafed ceilings, intricate murals, imported marble floors, and thematic room designs evoking Post's global travels, elements that remain a hallmark of the property today.

But don't let that interfere with your TDS, Christiecrite. :thup:
 
Diogenes said:
So you say.

The bathroom in the White House's Lincoln Bedroom (often called the "Lincoln Bathroom") was originally part of the 19th-century design but underwent a significant remodel during Democrat Harry Truman's administration in the 1940s. This update introduced green tiles and Art Deco elements, a modernist style popular in that era characterized by geometric patterns, streamlined forms, and bold materials. The remodel was part of with Truman's broader White House renovation, which no Democrats protested at the time. The Art Deco aesthetic was a mid-20th-century overlay on a room tied to Abraham Lincoln's 1860s legacy.

President Trump's 2025 remodeling of the same space replaced the historically incongruous Art Deco green tiles entirely with highly polished statuary marble floors, walls, and fixtures, a luxurious, classical white stone evoking ancient Roman and Renaissance grandeur.

Trump described the prior design as "totally inappropriate for the Lincoln Era"

The marble is a return to a style very appropriate for the time of Abraham Lincoln, potentially matching original 19th-century materials.

Photos show a stark before-and-after: the "before" features dated green tiles with geometric accents, while the "after" reveals a seamless marble expanse with modern plumbing integrated subtly. Marble was common in Lincoln-era federal buildings and symbolizes timeless American grandeur.

Mar-a-Lago's interiors are more eclectic, blending Mediterranean Revival elements like Spanish tiles and murals. It's worth noting, Christiecrite, that Mar-a-Lagos' interiors were designed by Joseph Urban, a Viennese-born architect, set designer, and decorator renowned for his opulent, theatrical style. Urban was commissioned by the estate's original owner, Marjorie Merriweather Post (heiress to the Post Cereals fortune), to create lavish, European-inspired interiors blending Spanish, Venetian, and Moorish influences. His work included gold-leafed ceilings, intricate murals, imported marble floors, and thematic room designs evoking Post's global travels, elements that remain a hallmark of the property today.

But don't let that interfere with your TDS, Christiecrite. :thup:
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Link up. Why do I doubt that the original article had the word "Christiecrite" in it? :unsure:
 
christiefan915 said:
Link up.
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The provided statement is largely accurate based on historical records, recent reports, and President Trump's own public descriptions. It correctly captures the key facts about the Lincoln Bathroom's history, the 2025 remodel, Trump's rationale, and the contrasting design of Mar-a-Lago. Below, I'll break it down section by section, noting any minor inaccuracies or nuances for completeness. All claims are substantiated with details from reliable sources.1. Original 19th-Century Design and Truman-Era Remodel
  • Claim: The bathroom was part of the 19th-century design but remodeled during Harry Truman's administration in the 1940s, introducing green tiles and Art Deco elements (geometric patterns, streamlined forms, bold materials). This was part of Truman's broader White House renovation, with no Democratic protests at the time. It's a mid-20th-century overlay on a space tied to Abraham Lincoln's 1860s legacy.
  • Verdict: True.
    • The Lincoln Bedroom (and its attached bathroom) originated in the 19th century as part of the White House's second-floor residence. Abraham Lincoln used the space as an office during his presidency (1861–1865), but the bathroom as we know it today was added later during structural expansions.
    • The major remodel occurred in the 1940s–1950s as part of President Truman's comprehensive White House renovation (1948–1952), which addressed severe structural issues (e.g., the building was sinking). This included updating private residence bathrooms with modern plumbing and Art Deco-inspired green tiles, characterized by geometric accents and streamlined fixtures—hallmarks of the era's modernist style.
    • No records indicate protests from Democrats (Truman's own party) during the project; it was seen as essential maintenance, funded by Congress without significant opposition.
    • The Art Deco update indeed contrasts with Lincoln's era, creating a "layered" historical feel in the room.
2. Trump's 2025 Remodel
  • Claim: Trump's 2025 remodeling replaced the Art Deco green tiles entirely with highly polished statuary marble floors, walls, and fixtures—a luxurious, classical white stone evoking ancient Roman and Renaissance grandeur.
  • Verdict: True.
    • Completed and unveiled on October 31, 2025, the remodel features black-and-white polished statuary marble (a high-end Italian white marble with grey veining, historically used for sculptures like Michelangelo's David) covering floors, walls, and integrated fixtures. Gold accents (e.g., faucets, showerheads, towel hooks) add a opulent touch, aligning with classical Roman/Renaissance aesthetics.
    • This is part of Trump's broader 2025 White House renovations, which have included the Oval Office, East Wing, and Rose Garden—often drawing criticism for their lavishness amid a government shutdown.
3. Trump's Description and Historical Fit
  • Claim: Trump described the prior design as "totally inappropriate for the Lincoln Era." The marble is a return to a style appropriate for Lincoln's time, potentially matching original 19th-century materials.
  • Verdict: Mostly true, with a historical caveat.
    • Trump's exact quote from his October 31, 2025, Truth Social post and earlier remarks: "It was renovated in the 1940s in an art deco green tile style, which was totally inappropriate for the Lincoln Era." He added that the marble is "very appropriate for the time of Abraham Lincoln and, in fact, could be the marble that was originally there!"
    • Marble was indeed common in Lincoln-era federal buildings (e.g., the U.S. Capitol expansions used marble for grandeur and durability), symbolizing "timeless American grandeur." However, the specific bathroom space during Lincoln's time was likely a simple sitting room without modern marble finishes or plumbing—the full bathroom was added post-1860s. Trump's claim is more interpretive (evoking the era's aesthetic) than literal, but it aligns with his stated intent to "restore" historical resonance.
4. Photos and Visual Contrast
  • Claim: Photos show a stark before-and-after: the "before" features dated green tiles with geometric accents, while the "after" reveals a seamless marble expanse with modern plumbing integrated subtly.
  • Verdict: True.
    • Trump shared over two dozen before-and-after photos on Truth Social on October 31, 2025, widely republished by outlets like CNN, Fox News, ABC News, and Reuters. The "before" images depict pale green Art Deco tiles with mirrored dome lighting and geometric patterns (unchanged since the 1940s). The "after" shows floor-to-ceiling seamless marble with subtle modern plumbing (e.g., gold-trimmed fixtures blending into the stone). The transformation is visually dramatic, from mid-century compact to expansive classical luxury.
5. Mar-a-Lago Comparison
  • Claim: Mar-a-Lago's interiors are more eclectic, blending Mediterranean Revival elements like Spanish tiles and murals. Designed by Joseph Urban (Viennese-born architect, set designer, decorator) for original owner Marjorie Merriweather Post (Post Cereals heiress), incorporating lavish European-inspired (Spanish, Venetian, Moorish) elements like gold-leafed ceilings, intricate murals, imported marble floors, and thematic designs evoking Post's travels—hallmarks that remain today.
  • Verdict: True.
    • Built 1924–1927, Mar-a-Lago's interiors were indeed designed by Joseph Urban (1872–1933), a Viennese immigrant known for theatrical, opulent styles from his Metropolitan Opera sets. Commissioned by Marjorie Merriweather Post, it fuses Mediterranean Revival with Spanish, Venetian, and Moorish influences: imported 15th-century Spanish tiles, hand-gilded ceilings, intricate pelican carvings, family crests, and murals inspired by Roman frescoes (e.g., a 4,000-pound inlaid marble dining table modeled on Florentine antiques).
    • These elements—eclectic and travel-evoking—persist today, though Trump has added personal touches (e.g., gold leaf restorations). This contrasts with the Lincoln Bathroom's now more uniform classical marble, highlighting Trump's shift toward "timeless" grandeur in the White House versus Mar-a-Lago's vibrant eclecticism.
Summaryz:This statement holds up well as factual reporting with a subtle interpretive lens (e.g., the "return to Lincoln-era style" is aspirational rather than archaeologically precise). No major fabrications or misleading elements. For visual reference, the before-and-after photos Trump shared emphasize the shift from "dated" to "grand," fueling both praise (for elegance) and criticism (for excess during fiscal debates). If you're seeking the original images, they're archived on Truth Social and major news sites from October 31, 2025.

 
christiefan915 said:
And don't tell me "private donors," there's absolutely no evidence for that.
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If you mean the Lincoln bathroom, Chritiecrite ...

The renovation of the Lincoln Bedroom bathroom in the White House, often referred to as the "Lincoln bathroom," was funded through private sources, including contributions from President Trump himself and other private donors. This aligns with the administration's approach to White House renovations, emphasizing no cost to taxpayers. POTUS Trump highlighted this in a Truth Social post, stating the project would proceed at "zero cost to the American Taxpayer."

www.forbes.com

Trump Remodels Lincoln Bathroom With Marble In Latest White House Renovation: Photos

Trump posted dozens of photos of the Lincoln Bedroom’s remodeled bathroom, stating the prior art deco style was “totally inappropriate for the Lincoln Era.”
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