Reality: Homosexual Marriage

Southern Man said:
Lying to children by saying queer is normal is immoral.
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Again, where are children being told that homosexuality is typical or the norm? They are not.

Again, what you mean is children are being told it is acceptable or something that should be tolerated. Then you pretend that you don't mean that abnormal = immoral. You are full of shit and anybody with any sense see right through your obvious shifts in context.
 
Southern Man said:
That's my point, they are not now. But allow queers to marry and that will have to change. Can't be calling Johnny's two dads abnormal.
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Why? They would be abnormal. This proves you are being dishonest. Unless you assign moral value to normalcy there is no reason to claim they are anything but abnormal. Allowing them to marry would not change the fact that they are abnormal. Red heads, married or not, are abnormal. So?
 
RStringfield said:
Why? They would be abnormal. This proves you are being dishonest. Unless you assign moral value to normalcy there is no reason to claim they are anything but abnormal. Allowing them to marry would not change the fact that they are abnormal. Red heads, married or not, are abnormal. So?
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Channeling PMP:

Just don't force me to accept them by passing laws!! Those abnormal Gingers deserve to live their soulless lives alone!

Channeling Dixie:

I don't care if you pass a law allowing Gingers to marry, the whole world will rise up in antipathy, and in their ultimate hatred we'll pass binding Amendments to keep those soulless freaks from ever marrying! Then you'll be sorry you didn't agree to the civil unions I proposed!
 
RStringfield said:
Why? They would be abnormal. This proves you are being dishonest. Unless you assign moral value to normalcy there is no reason to claim they are anything but abnormal. Allowing them to marry would not change the fact that they are abnormal. Red heads, married or not, are abnormal. So?
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Society would have to lie to kids and say that it is normal. Same for moral healthy and natural. To think otherwise is retarded.
 
RStringfield said:
Every black person was allowed to marry someone of their own race and whites enjoyed the same right. That was the argument given. Claiming everyone, hetero or homo, has the same right to marry someone of a different gender is not much different.
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And it's not much different allowing the same accommodation and consideration for other sexual deviancy, such as multiple partners, bestiality, pedophilia, and necrophilia. Those are all prohibited based on our "moral standards" we've adopted, and can just as easily be "changed to fit the times" in the future. I can only imagine that when people were debating interracial marriage, someone argued it would pave the way for men to want to marry men, and someone else probably said that was absurd, it wouldn't ever happen, because we have laws against sodomy, and we understood homosexuality was a deviant sexual behavior, and what kind of idiot would ever support such a notion? Times change, and people can ALWAYS find a justification for their immorality. Moral relativism is a dangerous road to travel down, if you value decent civilization.
 
Damocles said:
Through empathy and memory.

I wonder if Dixie would have ever thought he'd be trying to argue the NAMBLA line... It shows to what reaches he'll go in order to never admit he's made a foolish error.
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:rofl: As Winter Born noted Dixie has gone off the deep end.
 
Dixie said:
And it's not much different allowing the same accommodation and consideration for other sexual deviancy, such as multiple partners, bestiality, pedophilia, and necrophilia. Those are all prohibited based on our "moral standards" we've adopted, and can just as easily be "changed to fit the times" in the future. I can only imagine that when people were debating interracial marriage, someone argued it would pave the way for men to want to marry men, and someone else probably said that was absurd, it wouldn't ever happen, because we have laws against sodomy, and we understood homosexuality was a deviant sexual behavior, and what kind of idiot would ever support such a notion? Times change, and people can ALWAYS find a justification for their immorality. Moral relativism is a dangerous road to travel down, if you value decent civilization.
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So which definition of morality should we all be forced to use? The Judeo-Christian? There's this thing called the first Amendment that doesn't allow that, thank the little gods.
 
RStringfield said:
How amny times do I have to tell you, dumbfuck. PMP is arguing that this burden on society is a reason for prohibiting homosexual marriage.

You are absolutely right, the same arguments can be used for any "sexual deviancy" yet only homosexuals are singled out. Swingers are not prohibited from marrying. Why is it that the law demands that PMP consider such practices normal/moral? Why is that okay? That was the point.
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Probably because homosexuality is detrimental to health. The human body is not designed to have homosexual relations, all kinds of disease and health problems can occur. Can you demonstrate where ALL homosexuals are fully aware of the consequences of their actions? If not, we must protect them from becoming victims, just as we protect children. We certainly shouldn't condone and endorse the behavior by legitimizing it through traditional marriage. If anything, we should be discouraging such behavior and speaking out against the health risks.
 
Dixie said:
Probably because homosexuality is detrimental to health. The human body is not designed to have homosexual relations, all kinds of disease and health problems can occur. Can you demonstrate where ALL homosexuals are fully aware of the consequences of their actions? If not, we must protect them from becoming victims, just as we protect children. We certainly shouldn't condone and endorse the behavior by legitimizing it through traditional marriage. If anything, we should be discouraging such behavior and speaking out against the health risks.
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:rolleyes:

Swinging is also detrimental to health, it even spreads the same diseases...

You'd figure people who thought this way would want those people to settle down to one partner so the disease would not continue to spread...

Shoot, it's even okay to marry strangers on TV... and according to PMP, it's all good, no matter how odd it gets so long as "this" abnormality is excluded.
 
Dixie said:
Probably because homosexuality is detrimental to health. The human body is not designed to have homosexual relations, all kinds of disease and health problems can occur.
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That's nonsense. There is nothing about homosexual sex that is unique to homosexuals. Especially, if you are talking about lesbians. Most heteros practice oral. Anal is practiced by many heterosexuals. Neither are all that dangerous.

Can you demonstrate where ALL homosexuals are fully aware of the consequences of their actions? If not, we must protect them from becoming victims, just as we protect children.
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Can you demonstrate where the court has found such absurd arguments compelling? Listen, dumbfuck, our laws are based around the idea that the individual is capable of making their own choices. However, we realize that some are not. We don't just assume someone is not for whatever trivial reason some inbred retard can pull out of his ass, though.

There are quite legitimate reasons to assume that a child may not have the capacity to contract. It's not just some fanciful idea to justify discrimination. It's clear purpose is protection of the child.

No fucking court is ever going to buy your strawman, that the laws are just discriminating against children, no matter what we do on homosexual marriage. There is absolutely no connection between the two.
 
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