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Governor: 12 dead in UPS plane crash; NTSB says engine ‘detached’ from jet during takeoff​


There is a growing pattern emerging in aviation failures and most if not all, ARE MECHANICAL FAILURES. A trend is allowing these companies to take short cuts and not complying with rules of scheduled maintenance. And because Trump has deregulated most rules over seeing these compliance measures, time after time as will this case eventually reveal, these companies and their maintenance crews are putting this nations skies in danger. Google it. I am never ever wrong, fella's
 
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Were Democrats responsible for this (they refused to pay ATC)?


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tigerred59 said:
There is a growing pattern emerging in aviation failures and most if not all, ARE MECHANICAL FAILURES. A trend is allowing these companies to take short cuts and not complying with rules of scheduled maintenance. And because Trump has deregulated most rules over seeing these compliance measures, time after time as will this case eventually reveal, these companies and their maintenance crews are putting this nations skies in danger. Google it. I am never ever wrong, fella's
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No, that claim is not true. It's a mix of exaggeration, misinformation, and unsubstantiated speculation that doesn't hold up to the available data on aviation safety.Commercial air travel in the United States remains extraordinarily safe—one of the safest periods in history. The U.S. has had zero fatal crashes on major scheduled airlines from 2009 until early 2025, a span of over 15 years and billions of passenger flights.

Globally, the fatal accident rate for commercial jets hit a record low in 2023–2024, with rates around one per 8–10 million flights.

There is no "growing pattern" of mechanical failures driving a surge in aviation accidents:
  • Mechanical issues account for about 21% of all aircraft accidents historically (across general aviation and commercial), far behind pilot error (53%) and weather (11%).


  • NTSB data for 2024–2025 shows accident totals in line with or below long-term averages. First-quarter 2025 had 256 accidents—the lowest Q1 since 2014.


    January–March 2025 incidents were consistent with historical norms (around 13 per quarter since 2000).


  • High-profile incidents in late 2024 and early 2025 (e.g., runway excursions, engine issues) grabbed headlines, but they involved a mix of causes—weather, human error, bird strikes, and rare mechanical problems—not a systemic mechanical breakdown. Most were non-fatal or involved small/general aviation, not commercial jets.
Claims of widespread "short cuts" in maintenance due to deregulation are unfounded:
  • The major deregulation (Airline Deregulation Act) happened in 1978—it affected routes and fares, not safety rules. FAA oversight of maintenance, inspections, and certification has remained robust and separate from economic deregulation.


  • Post-1978 fears that cost-cutting would compromise maintenance "proved groundless," with accident rates continuing to fall dramatically.


  • Boeing's well-documented quality issues (e.g., 737 MAX door plug in 2024) stem from manufacturing and self-certification practices that intensified in the 2000s–2010s, not from any Trump-era changes.


    The assertion that "Trump has deregulated most rules overseeing these compliance measures" is false:
  • Trump's first term (2017–2021) pushed general regulatory rollbacks, but FAA safety oversight was not gutted. Delegation of some certification tasks to manufacturers (a bipartisan practice since the 1990s) continued, but no broad deregulation of maintenance compliance occurred.


  • In 2025, Trump's actions (ending DEI hiring at FAA, reviewing safety-critical staff) are recent and unrelated to any pre-2025 incidents. Experts across sources agree these changes had zero impact on accidents up to November 2025.
In short, U.S. skies are not "in danger" from mechanical failures or skipped maintenance. Flying on a major airline is safer than ever, with risk comparable to being struck by lightning. Sensational claims like this often circulate after rare events, but the data tells a story of continuous safety improvement driven by rigorous oversight, not decline.




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I think I might know what the problem here is...

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UPS Appoints Charlene Thomas to Newly Created Role of Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer - ESG Today

Global package delivery giant UPS announced the appointment of Charlene Thomas to the newly created position of Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer. In her new role, Thomas will be responsible for furthering UPS’s programs and initiatives that infuse diversity, equity and inclusion...
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UPS bought into DIE (aka DEI) very heavily. That means it's likely this was a key hiring metric for their aircraft maintenance program that likely put race and gender, etc., above competence. For an engine to fall off an airplane like that takes some really high level, braintard, fucking up your maintenance and DIE offers that in spades.
 
tigerred59 said:
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Governor: 12 dead in UPS plane crash; NTSB says engine ‘detached’ from jet during takeoff​


There is a growing pattern emerging in aviation failures and most if not all, ARE MECHANICAL FAILURES. A trend is allowing these companies to take short cuts and not complying with rules of scheduled maintenance. And because Trump has deregulated most rules over seeing these compliance measures, time after time as will this case eventually reveal, these companies and their maintenance crews are putting this nations skies in danger. Google it. I am never ever wrong, fella's
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It's not a "trend", it's the tRump *administration cutting oversight.
 
Crepitus said:
It's not a "trend", it's the tRump *administration cutting oversight.
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No, that claim is not true. It's a mix of exaggeration, misinformation, and unsubstantiated speculation that doesn't hold up to the available data on aviation safety.Commercial air travel in the United States remains extraordinarily safe—one of the safest periods in history. The U.S. has had zero fatal crashes on major scheduled airlines from 2009 until early 2025, a span of over 15 years and billions of passenger flights.

Globally, the fatal accident rate for commercial jets hit a record low in 2023–2024, with rates around one per 8–10 million flights.

There is no "growing pattern" of mechanical failures driving a surge in aviation accidents:
  • Mechanical issues account for about 21% of all aircraft accidents historically (across general aviation and commercial), far behind pilot error (53%) and weather (11%).


  • NTSB data for 2024–2025 shows accident totals in line with or below long-term averages. First-quarter 2025 had 256 accidents—the lowest Q1 since 2014.


    January–March 2025 incidents were consistent with historical norms (around 13 per quarter since 2000).


  • High-profile incidents in late 2024 and early 2025 (e.g., runway excursions, engine issues) grabbed headlines, but they involved a mix of causes—weather, human error, bird strikes, and rare mechanical problems—not a systemic mechanical breakdown. Most were non-fatal or involved small/general aviation, not commercial jets.
Claims of widespread "short cuts" in maintenance due to deregulation are unfounded:
  • The major deregulation (Airline Deregulation Act) happened in 1978—it affected routes and fares, not safety rules. FAA oversight of maintenance, inspections, and certification has remained robust and separate from economic deregulation.


  • Post-1978 fears that cost-cutting would compromise maintenance "proved groundless," with accident rates continuing to fall dramatically.


  • Boeing's well-documented quality issues (e.g., 737 MAX door plug in 2024) stem from manufacturing and self-certification practices that intensified in the 2000s–2010s, not from any Trump-era changes.


    The assertion that "Trump has deregulated most rules overseeing these compliance measures" is false:
  • Trump's first term (2017–2021) pushed general regulatory rollbacks, but FAA safety oversight was not gutted. Delegation of some certification tasks to manufacturers (a bipartisan practice since the 1990s) continued, but no broad deregulation of maintenance compliance occurred.


  • In 2025, Trump's actions (ending DEI hiring at FAA, reviewing safety-critical staff) are recent and unrelated to any pre-2025 incidents. Experts across sources agree these changes had zero impact on accidents up to November 2025.
In short, U.S. skies are not "in danger" from mechanical failures or skipped maintenance. Flying on a major airline is safer than ever, with risk comparable to being struck by lightning. Sensational claims like this often circulate after rare events, but the data tells a story of continuous safety improvement driven by rigorous oversight, not decline.

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T. A. Gardner said:
I think I might know what the problem here is...

www.ajc.com

UPS, Coke and Home Depot shareholders demand changes around DEI initiatives

Shareholders of three publicly traded Atlanta corporations demanded changes at recent annual meetings around diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives.
www.ajc.com www.ajc.com

buildremote.co

Report: 109 Companies That Support DEI [2025] | Buildremote

Here is the complete list of companies publicly sticking with their DEI programs and policies in the last 12 months.
buildremote.co buildremote.co

www.asyousow.org

United Parcel Service Inc: Disclosure of Key Diversity and Inclusion Metrics — As You Sow

BE IT RESOLVED: Shareholders request that United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS) report to shareholders on the effectiveness of the Company's diversity, equity, and inclusion efforts. The report should be done at reasonable expense, exclude proprietary information, and provide transparency on
www.asyousow.org www.asyousow.org

www.entrepreneur.com

The UPS Store Prioritizes Diversity — Here's How it's Paying Off

The shipping franchise is expanding swiftly through its Diversity Ownership Program, and that's helped it stay a top 10 franchise for seven years.
www.entrepreneur.com www.entrepreneur.com

www.esgtoday.com

UPS Appoints Charlene Thomas to Newly Created Role of Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer - ESG Today

Global package delivery giant UPS announced the appointment of Charlene Thomas to the newly created position of Chief Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Officer. In her new role, Thomas will be responsible for furthering UPS’s programs and initiatives that infuse diversity, equity and inclusion...
www.esgtoday.com www.esgtoday.com

UPS bought into DIE (aka DEI) very heavily. That means it's likely this was a key hiring metric for their aircraft maintenance program that likely put race and gender, etc., above competence. For an engine to fall off an airplane like that takes some really high level, braintard, fucking up your maintenance and DIE offers that in spades.
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Every single time there's a plane mishap 9 times out of 10, its due to mechanical failures. one report noted at least seven such incidents involving commercial airplanes by July 2025, and a separate article mentioned at least 134 commercial incidents overall, with some involving dangerously close calls.
How many plane crashes have there been in America recently?

The Brief. There have been 60 deadly aviation crashes in the United States in 2025. Before 2025, the most recent deadly plane crash involving a U.S. airliner was in 2009. At least 188 people have died in the 2025 aviation crashes.May 6, 2025

Not trying to hate, but I honestly believe a lot of the companies got rid of the minorities and instead got nothing but lazy white boys that don't know shit to take care of these planes and well the results are obvious.
 
tigerred59 said:
Every single time there's a plane mishap 9 times out of 10, its due to mechanical failures. one report noted at least seven such incidents involving commercial airplanes by July 2025, and a separate article mentioned at least 134 commercial incidents overall, with some involving dangerously close calls.
How many plane crashes have there been in America recently?

The Brief. There have been 60 deadly aviation crashes in the United States in 2025. Before 2025, the most recent deadly plane crash involving a U.S. airliner was in 2009. At least 188 people have died in the 2025 aviation crashes.May 6, 2025

Not trying to hate, but I honestly believe a lot of the companies got rid of the minorities and instead got nothing but lazy white boys that don't know shit to take care of these planes and well the results are obvious.
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An engine fell off. That isn't a "mechanical failure." It is a catastrophic failure in a modern aircraft. That means something major wasn't being done correctly to maintain the plane or it was deliberate sabotage. The MD 11 has been flying for decades. Something like that doesn't occur unless there was a major fuck up somewhere.

That points to sloppy or undone maintenance. Since many other companies heavily into DEI have had major failures due to incompetence resulting from putting race, gender, politics, and "equality" ahead of competence, why should UPS be any different?
 
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