UK suspends some intelligence sharing with US over boat strike concerns in major break

[Guno צְבִי]

The United Kingdom is no longer sharing intelligence with the US about suspected drug trafficking vessels in the Caribbean because it does not want to be complicit in US military strikes and believes the attacks are illegal, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

The UK’s decision marks a significant break from its closest ally and intelligence sharing partner and underscores the growing skepticism over the legality of the US military’s campaign around Latin America.

For years, the UK, which controls a number of territories in the Caribbean where it bases intelligence assets, has helped the US locate vessels suspected of carrying drugs so that the US Coast Guard could interdict them, the sources said. That meant the ships would be stopped, boarded, its crew detained, and drugs seized.

Exclusive: UK suspends some intelligence sharing with US over boat strike concerns in major break

The United Kingdom is no longer sharing intelligence with the US about suspected drug trafficking vessels in the Caribbean because it does not want to be complicit in US military strikes and believes the attacks are illegal, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Diogenes]

What possible information could MI6 have that US intelligence doesn't already know, Guano?


I'll understand if you don't know, of course.


Cheap virtue-signaling to make Labour's base happy chappies.

 

[Nordberg]

It is also because Trump cannot shut up when he learns something important. he is a child who would immediately us it to show off. He blabbed things he should not have several time, even to Putin. our allies are trying to sit the next couple years out,mitigate
mitigating what damage Trump can do.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Its not totally impossible that this is true, but it is much more likely a lie to shield the Brits from blame for these illegal acts.

 

[Hawkeye10]

It is also because Trump cannot shut up when he learns something important. he is a child who would immediately us it to show off. He blabbed things he should not have several time, even to Putin. our allies are trying to sit the next couple years out,mitigate
mitigating what damage Trump can do.

I just heard Alex Krainer on Glenn Diesen say that he is hearing that Putin and Trump are working very closely behind the scenes to prevent WW3.

 

[Earl]

It is also because Trump cannot shut up when he learns something important. he is a child who would immediately us it to show off. He blabbed things he should not have several time, even to Putin. our allies are trying to sit the next couple years out,mitigate
mitigating what damage Trump can do.

Nordy, do you think that showing drug boats exploding might deter further drug boats?

There is already a reported decrease.


https://www.newyorker.com › ... › Trump Administration




Oct 21, 2025 — “Each boat that we sink carries drugs that would kill more than twenty-five thousand Americans.” There were about eighty thousand drug-overdose ...

 

[QP!]

Its not totally impossible that this is true, but it is much more likely a lie to shield the Brits from blame for these illegal acts.

Ummm did you read the article?

It is precisely because the US is not providing any legal authority to do these killings and they may deemed 'illegal acts' that the Brits are not sharing info that the US may use for targetting and killing specifically because the Brits do not want to be blamed or held also culpable for these acts.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Ummm did you read the article?

It is precisely because the US is not providing any legal authority to do these killings and they may deemed 'illegal acts' that the Brits are not sharing info that the US may use for targetting and killing specifically because the Brits do not want to be blamed or held also culpable for these acts.

CIA/MI6/MOSSAD are all branches of the Wall Street Mafia......there is almost never "we will not cooperate with the other branches", there are only sometimes claims to that effect for public consumption.

 

[QP!]

Nordy, do you think that showing drug boats exploding might deter further drug boats?

There is already a reported decrease.

https://www.newyorker.com › ... › Trump Administration




Oct 21, 2025 — “Each boat that we sink carries drugs that would kill more than twenty-five thousand Americans.” There were about eighty thousand drug-overdose ...

What it WON'T do is reduce the drugs going in to the US.

No 'war on drugs' has ever worked that way and quite the opposite as drug shipments and use just increase in almost a straight line as those efforts are pushed.

That does not stop stupid people thinking 'this time will be different', but when you interrupt supply while doing NOTHING about demand, all that happens is prices for those demand go up and up and that leads to more and more suppliers entering the market. And thus you grow the problem, not shrink it.

 

[Hawkeye10]

What it WON'T do is reduce the drugs going in to the US.

No 'war on drugs' has ever worked that way and quite the opposite as drug shipments and use just increase in almost a straight line as those efforts are pushed.

That does not stop stupid people thinking 'this time will be different', but when you interrupt supply while doing NOTHING about demand, all that happens is prices for those demand go up and up and that leads to more and more suppliers entering the market. And thus you grow the problem, not shrink it.

These boats that we are illegally blowing up have nothing to do with drugs into the USA......that is a lie told to justify the illegal act.

The project is regime change.....it is to teach South Americans that they have no choice but to do as the Imperial Empire instructs.

 

[Earl]

What it WON'T do is reduce the drugs going in to the US.

No 'war on drugs' has ever worked that way and quite the opposite as drug shipments and use just increase in almost a straight line as those efforts are pushed.

That does not stop stupid people thinking 'this time will be different', but when you interrupt supply while doing NOTHING about demand, all that happens is prices for those demand go up and up and that leads to more and more suppliers entering the market. And thus you grow the problem, not shrink it.

Calm down, Kewpie doll boy.

Enough drugs will get through to keep you supplied.

 

[Earl]

This attack on the boats carrying death to millions of Americans is unique.

Veremos.

 

[Diogenes]

It is also because Trump cannot shut up when he learns something important. he is a child who would immediately us it to show off. He blabbed things he should not have several time, even to Putin. our allies are trying to sit the next couple years out,mitigate
mitigating what damage Trump can do.

• Zero reporting links the UK's move to Trump's past (or present) habit of loose lips. The 2017 incidents you're likely alluding to—Trump sharing classified Israeli intel on ISIS with Russian officials in the Oval Office, or discussing submarine secrets with Filipino President Duterte—were real embarrassments that strained trust temporarily. But those were isolated, addressed through diplomatic channels, and didn't lead to ongoing suspensions like this.
• Recent coverage explicitly attributes the pause to ethical and legal qualms over the boat strikes, not gossip risks. UK officials worry their tips could directly feed into lethal US actions they've deemed unlawful, resulting in at least 76 deaths so far. Trump hasn't "blabbed" about these ops; he's publicly defended them as necessary against "narcoterrorists" threatening American lives via fentanyl smuggling.
• If allies were truly "mitigating damage" from Trump's showboating, we'd see wider fallout—like Five Eyes partners pulling back on Ukraine aid intel or NATO cyber sharing. Instead, this is siloed to one theater: Caribbean drug interdiction.

In short, this is a grown-up disagreement over rules of engagement in the war on drugs, not babysitting a leaky president.

The absurd part is assuming every allied hiccup is about one man's mouth rather than politics.

 

[Diogenes]

MI6 is extremely unlikely to possess any intelligence on Caribbean drug-smuggling boats that the US actually needs or relies on.

The Caribbean is America’s backyard, not Britain’s. The US Navy, Coast Guard, and Joint Interagency Task Force South (JIATF-S) run real-time, multi-domain surveillance 24/7: P-8 Poseidon patrols, MQ-4C Triton drones, satellite constellations, and a web of radar sites from Key West to Puerto Rico.

James Bond might seduce a cartel heiress on a yacht in the movies, but in reality, the US doesn’t need a tuxedoed Brit whispering tips when it’s got eyes in the sky and ears on the water that can track a cigarette boat from 200 miles out.

The UK’s actual drug intel comes from the National Crime Agency (NCA) and HM Revenue & Customs, not spooks in Vauxhall Cross.

If MI6 were tailing narco-subs, Q Branch would be issuing Walther PPKs with underwater holsters. Spoiler: they’re not. Besides, Doctor Evil has these:

 

[Hawkeye10]

• Zero reporting links the UK's move to Trump's past (or present) habit of loose lips. The 2017 incidents you're likely alluding to—Trump sharing classified Israeli intel on ISIS with Russian officials in the Oval Office, or discussing submarine secrets with Filipino President Duterte—were real embarrassments that strained trust temporarily. But those were isolated, addressed through diplomatic channels, and didn't lead to ongoing suspensions like this.
• Recent coverage explicitly attributes the pause to ethical and legal qualms over the boat strikes, not gossip risks. UK officials worry their tips could directly feed into lethal US actions they've deemed unlawful, resulting in at least 76 deaths so far. Trump hasn't "blabbed" about these ops; he's publicly defended them as necessary against "narcoterrorists" threatening American lives via fentanyl smuggling.
• If allies were truly "mitigating damage" from Trump's showboating, we'd see wider fallout—like Five Eyes partners pulling back on Ukraine aid intel or NATO cyber sharing. Instead, this is siloed to one theater: Caribbean drug interdiction.

In short, this is a grown-up disagreement over rules of engagement in the war on drugs, not babysitting a leaky president.

The absurd part is assuming every allied hiccup is about one man's mouth rather than politics.

No, because the claim that this has anything to do with drugs is an obvious lie.

 

[Diogenes]

I just heard Alex Krainer on Glenn Diesen say that he is hearing that Putin and Trump are working very closely behind the scenes to prevent WW3.

Ah, the eternal dance of geopolitical fanfic: Putin and Trump as secret BFFs, whispering "no nukes today" over vodka and Big Macs. Your mug's intel drop from Alex Krainer on Glenn Diesen's show? Yeah, I dug into the ether. Podcasts, clips, Substack rants, and it's not quite the WW3 averted plot twist it sounds like.

Glenn Diesen is a Norwegian prof and podcaster (Greater Eurasia) who's all about multipolarity, BRICS rising, and the West's self-sabotage. His chats are echo chambers for anti-NATO takes—think RT-adjacent without the logo.

Alex Krainer (aka "Naked Hedge" guy) is a Croatian-born market analyst and ex-hedge funder who's been on Diesen's show multiple times in 2025: In April on BRICS vs. Europe's decline, in July on economic resets, in September on civil war fears in France/UK, and in October on militarism tanking the EU. They're like the Mutt & Jeff of Eurasian optimism.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Ah, the eternal dance of geopolitical fanfic: Putin and Trump as secret BFFs, whispering "no nukes today" over vodka and Big Macs. Your mug's intel drop from Alex Krainer on Glenn Diesen's show? Yeah, I dug into the ether. Podcasts, clips, Substack rants, and it's not quite the WW3 averted plot twist it sounds like.

Glenn Diesen is a Norwegian prof and podcaster (Greater Eurasia) who's all about multipolarity, BRICS rising, and the West's self-sabotage. His chats are echo chambers for anti-NATO takes—think RT-adjacent without the logo.

Alex Krainer (aka "Naked Hedge" guy) is a Croatian-born market analyst and ex-hedge funder who's been on Diesen's show multiple times in 2025: In April on BRICS vs. Europe's decline, in July on economic resets, in September on civil war fears in France/UK, and in October on militarism tanking the EU. They're like the Mutt & Jeff of Eurasian optimism.

Record of Right/Not Right is the only thing that matters to me.

Not being an idiot.

 

[Diogenes]

No, because the claim that this has anything to do with drugs is an obvious lie.

Oh, for the love of—another tin-foil sombrero sighting. Your latest fever dream: "The claim that this has anything to do with drugs is an obvious lie."

Buddy, that's not a hot take; that's a fever blister on the face of reality.

This whole saga screams drugs from the fentanyl-fueled rooftops, backed by everything from White House memos to wreckage photos showing bales bobbing in the waves. Let's eviscerate this nonsense with the cold, hard facts, because apparently, some folks think "narco-terrorist" is code for "regime-change fanfic."

Day one of this mess? September 2, 2025: Trump drops a Truth Social bomb announcing the first strike on a Venezuelan boat, crowing about sinking a vessel "loaded with drugs headed to poison American kids."He followed up with threats like "If you're hauling death to our shores, we're hauling you to the bottom."

Not subtle, our Donnie. It's all fentanyl, coke, and cartel busts.

Fast-forward to October: A Justice Department memo greenlights these as "self-defense" against "unlawful combatants" smuggling narcotics for designated terrorist orgs like Tren de Aragua.

The admin even briefed Congress: "These boats are killing Americans with drugs."

Lie? Nah, that's the mission statement etched in missile casings.

Post-strike forensics? Recovered from the drink: Kilograms of heroin, coke, and—yep—fentanyl precursors, per US intel and partner agencies like the Dominican Navy hauling up the evidence.

War Sec. Pete Hegseth's been posting unclassified vids weekly: Boats mid-haul on known trafficking routes, with manifests tying back to Venezuelan cartels.

Even the survivors from that October semi-sub strike? Trump bragged they were "narcoterrorists" caught red-handed with a sub full of product, before shipping them to Colombia and Ecuador for prosecution on drug charges.

If it's a "lie," why's the evidence washing up on beaches like bad vacation regrets?

 

[Diogenes]

Record of Right/Not Right is the only thing that matters to me. Not being an idiot.

Then let’s keep the scoreboard clean, simple, and brutal:

Claim	Status	Evidence
UK suspended intel sharing over Trump’s loose lips	NOT RIGHT	No source ties it to leaks. UK MoD: “Legal concerns re: LOAC violations in drug strikes.”
MI6 has critical intel on Caribbean drug boats	NOT RIGHT	MI6 doesn’t do tactical narco ops. US owns the domain (satellites, drones, HUMINT).
Trump-Putin secretly teaming up to stop WW3	NOT RIGHT	Krainer/Diesen speculation, zero docs, zero leaks, zero meetings confirmed.
Drug strikes are a “lie” — not about narcotics	NOT RIGHT	20 boats, 75 dead, seized fentanyl/heroin, Trump’s own memos, bounty on Maduro.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Being a FreeMan I judge for myself, my success at education, which has become rare this deeply into this dark age, is why I do it so well. My telling you what I see is my gift to you. Do with it as you will.