Can a Lib name one?
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christiefan915
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Maybe you should wait until we learn who all of Epstein's victims were. Do you even understand that many victims don't want to relive the abuse?
Jake Starkey
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Can u show that one of Epstein's victims that have stated Trump did nothing?
Giuffre said that Trump did nothing.
From her 2015 Deposition:
"I have never seen Donald Trump on Epstein’s island... I never saw him have sex with any underage girls." When asked if Trump had ever done anything inappropriate, she replied, "No." She also denied that Trump flirted with her or was involved in sexual encounters with Epstein's victims.
Seriously, man. Do better. This information is available to everyone.
Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply to Trump, I suppose.
Jake Starkey
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Damocles, you have only one saying Trump did nothing of so many victims.
That is a start but certainly not any end is in sight.
The survivors will be meeting on the Capitol steps next Tuesday afternoon for a press release.
That is a start but certainly not any end is in sight.
The survivors will be meeting on the Capitol steps next Tuesday afternoon for a press release.
volsrocks
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So not one...got it
volsrocks
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Jake Starkey
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So far. It will change. And you can't stop it.
You asked for only one.
christiefan915
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Now are you going to demand I find the names of these two and post them?
"A discharge petition for a bill to release files related to Jeffrey Epstein got enough signatures Wednesday to force action on the matter, teeing up a long-sought vote on the House floor relating to the convicted sex offender.
Rep. Adelita Grijalva (D-Ariz.) became the 218th and final signature on the discharge petition shortly after she was sworn in Wednesday. She joined all other Democrats and four Republicans: Reps. Thomas Massie (Ky.), Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.), Lauren Boebert (Colo.) and Nancy Mace (S.C.).
Grijalva signed the petition on the House floor immediately after being sworn in as Democrats in the chamber cheered and two Epstein survivors looked on from the gallery."
christiefan915
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trump would appear a lot less guilty if the Epstein files were released already. In fact, he would be demanding the release to prove his innocence... if he were actually innocent.
volsrocks
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So I have no one....got it
volsrocks
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And if they showed his guilt Biden/Harris and his DOJ had 4 yrs to release them if he was actually guilty
Harris would have been demanding the release
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christiefan915
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I know this is a long article but give it a shot.
Why Didn’t Biden Release the Epstein Files?
The issue is not simply political — it’s rooted in law, confidentiality, and the independence of the Justice Department. Despite public perception, a U.S. president does not have unilateral authority to declassify or release evidence from criminal cases, especially when such material includes grand jury testimony or victim information protected by federal privacy statutes.Here are the primary reasons the Biden administration did not release the Epstein files:
1. Federal Grand Jury Secrecy Laws
Under Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, grand jury information cannot be made public unless a federal judge authorizes its release. This means all testimony, transcripts, and exhibits from grand jury proceedings related to Epstein are legally sealed — and not even the President can order their disclosure without a court order.
Violating grand jury secrecy laws can result in criminal penalties for prosecutors or officials involved. This legal protection exists to safeguard witnesses, ongoing investigations, and the integrity of the justice system.
2. Victim Protection and Privacy Laws
Epstein’s crimes involved minors and young women whose identities are protected under federal victim privacy laws, including the Crime Victims’ Rights Act (CVRA). Releasing unredacted documents could expose those survivors to public scrutiny, harassment, or retraumatization.
In multiple statements, the DOJ emphasized that protecting victim confidentiality was a top priority. Many victims gave statements under assurances that their names and personal details would never become public. Revealing the full files could legally and ethically violate those agreements.
3. Ongoing Civil and Criminal Proceedings
Even though Epstein died in August 2019, litigation involving his associates, his estate, and institutions tied to him continues today. Civil suits against financial firms, such as JPMorgan Chase and Deutsche Bank, remained active during Biden’s presidency, and those cases referenced sealed documents from Epstein’s investigations.
Releasing those materials prematurely could have interfered with active proceedings. In 2023, for example, the U.S. Virgin Islands settled with JPMorgan Chase for $105 million, alleging that the bank enabled Epstein’s trafficking operations. The DOJ argued that public release during litigation could have compromised due process.
4. Independence of the Department of Justice
Since his campaign in 2020, Joe Biden repeatedly promised that his administration would not interfere with DOJ investigations — a sharp contrast to the politicization of the department seen in previous administrations.
That promise meant that Attorney General Merrick Garland had full autonomy over decisions involving sensitive cases, including Epstein’s. The DOJ determined that most Epstein files could not be disclosed under current law, citing the ongoing need to protect uncharged individuals, witnesses, and victims.
The White House therefore did not intervene or direct any release, leaving the decision entirely within the DOJ’s jurisdiction.
5. Legal Limitation on Presidential Power
Contrary to popular belief, the President cannot simply declassify or release evidence gathered during federal criminal investigations. These are governed by separate branches of government — the judiciary and the Justice Department.
Even if Biden had publicly requested their release, the courts would still have to approve. The files are not “classified” in the national security sense — they are sealed legal evidence, which falls under judicial authority, not executive control.
Why Didn’t Biden Release the Epstein Files: The Full Story Behind the Controversy
Find out why Biden didn’t release the Epstein files, the legal limits behind the decision, and what remains sealed within the U.S. justice system.
legalunitedstates.com
"Appear"?
I hate to tell you this. Are the girls in the room? You might want to usher them out and shut the door.
Are you ready?
I don't want the girls to hear you scream. You see, princess, a core principle of our justice system: the presumption of innocence. Under this foundational rule, anyone accused of wrongdoing is considered not guilty until proven otherwise by the prosecution, who bear the full burden of presenting clear, compelling evidence to overcome that presumption. The accused isn't required to take affirmative steps—like demanding document releases—to establish their own innocence; doing so would even risk waiving certain legal protections and shift the evidentiary load in ways that undermine the system. It's a safeguard designed to protect against miscarriages of justice, ensuring fairness rather than turning defense into obligation.
But wait, there's more. Maybe you hadn't heard. Today, a bipartisan discharge petition led by Reps. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) reached the required 218 signatures, requiring procedural steps toward a floor vote on the Epstein Files Transparency Act (H.Res. 577), which will result in the immediate release of all federal documents related to Jeffrey Epstein from the Justice Department. House Speaker Mike Johnson announced he would accelerate the process, bypassing the standard seven-legislative-day waiting period to bring the bill to a full vote next week. Perhaps you were too busy fixating on Erika Kirk to notice.
One filed a lawsuit and then disappeared.
Jake Starkey
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You wrote that.
I wrote, "Damocles, you have only one saying Trump did nothing of so many victims.
That is a start but certainly not any end is in sight."
Jake Starkey
Verified User
And Trump threw a hissy fit, saying there should be no GOP "deflections".
I don't know if he did anything. But I believe he knows something and is hiding it about PedoIsle, whether friends, allies, or family.