Into the Night
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Freedom was available to blacks, unless they were slaves.
I never said marriage doesn't exist, Void.
SCOTUS protects marriage equality
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IBDaMann
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You still have no English reading comprehension.
ZenMode
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Right, freedom was available to blacks in the US, so why didn't the enslaved blacks just decide to be free?
I mean, if a gay man can decide to marry a woman, which would give him equality, why couldn't blacks just decide to exercise their equality and be free?
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Are you not aware that the past is not the present? Do you not have a relevant question about the present?
Let's give it a try. "I mean, freedom does exist in the US, right?" Correct response: Yes, it does.
Translation: "(a condition in the past) is just like (a different condition in the present)"
Sorry, but no.
ZenMode
Well-known member
Am I aware that the past is not the present?
Tell me again what the basis is for your definition of marriage being only a man and woman?
IBDaMann
Well-known member
Well, now that I taught you the difference. You're most welcome.
I don't have such a definition. I am adefinitive.
My position is that Christians have a definition with strong rationale that correlates to human history and to Darwin's theory of evolution (although they are typically not aware of this and certainly don't want to emphasize it). The Christian definition of, and view on, marriage is beneficial to society, whereas the WOKE, society-destroying, humanity-HATING position of leftists is destructive to society. As a result, I side with the Christians every time.
You have never explained why the label "civil union" is somehow unacceptable. Start explaining.
ZenMode
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Right, so telling a gay person that equality is available to them, as long as they be something they aren't, is like telling a black slave that freedom is available to them, as long as they be something they aren't: white and not a slave.
And therein lies the problem. You are willing to deny equality based on the opinions of iron age men who sacrificed animals to change the weather and couldn't explain where the sun went at night. Their "strong rationale" behind marriage was related to social and economic security and ensuring an heir for family property and money. The hatred of gays is separate and based on what they believed was the opinion of the Sky Wizard.
Same-sex marriage has been in existence for a decade and do you know what has changed for society? Absolutely nothing. I mean literally not a fucking thing. Same-sex marriage has changed nothing and the claim by evangelicals that it was going to ruin society was all a lie in an attempt to force their beliefs on the country and deny true equality for consenting adults.
Separate but equal isn't equality.... something we learned 50 years ago.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Troll.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
No you have not, troll.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Had you lived in the past, you'd argue that the Blacks wanted supremacy over others.
Deflection, troll.
Sorry troll, but yes.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
No you didn't. You're just a troll that stated the obvious.
There is no destruction. SSM has no impact on society, troll.
Who said it's unacceptable, troll?
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
I'm an ordained minister and just married my dog and cat. No worries, one is male and the other is female.
The problem is that the feds don't recognize the marriage so I can't get a tax break for them. Same for gay people if the Feds didn't recognize gay marriage.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
Slaves aren't free, dude.@gfm7175 and @Into the Night talking to black people during slavery in the US:
"Uh, freedom is available to all people in the US! I'm not sure what your problem is."
You can thank the Republican Party for freeing them, btw.
AProudLefty
The remora of JPP
Lincoln was a racist.
ZenMode
Well-known member
And gay people aren't straight, so claiming that they have never been denied marriage is as foolish as saying black slaves were never denied freedom.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Correct. As were most people of that era.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
I suspect that most people who are happily married enjoy their marriages.
Jake Starkey
Verified User
With the northern and western Democrats.
gfm7175
Mega MAGA
It was, unless they were slaves. And why are you singling out people with black skin?
Yes.
Yes, you just said that.
Yes, marriage exists now. So?
Jake Starkey
Verified User
gfm7175 singled out blacks by skin color and slavery.
Why?
Why?