U.S. Supreme Court to hear case determining if states can count mail-in ballots that are received AFTER Election Day

[T. A. Gardner]

Just re-posting your original claim, and bolding it.

Yes. They are more likely to have more voter fraud. They have more voters and people as a rule. They practice things in how voting occurs that can be shown to increase the ease and propensity of voter fraud being committed. We don't know what the overall rate of fraud actually is.

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map is an interactive tool providing a sampling of proven instances of election fraud across the U.S. From @HeritageDataviz

electionfraud.heritage.org

Voter fraud in US elections? What the data and research shows

The Heritage Foundation found that voter fraud has occurred but in very small numbers.

www.newsweek.com

How widespread is election fraud in the United States? Not very | Brookings

In swing states, reported cases of voter fraud amounts to less than 1%.

www.brookings.edu

This article shows the problem with current analyses quite well, if not what they were aiming for

A Data-Driven Analysis Of Voter Fraud Claims

Explore the truth behind voter fraud claims with real data. This analysis breaks down common myths, compares fraud rates, and reveals why restrictive voting laws often do more harm than good.

perthirtysix.com

Here's one small example of why:

1.5% of all absentee/mail-in ballots were rejected in 2022 - Ballotpedia News

news.ballotpedia.org

As a hypothetical, let's say state A sets the rate for matching signatures on a mail in ballot at having to be 80% of what the on-file signature looks like. State B sets their rate at If the ballot is signed, it's valid. What would be the rejection rate of those two states for signature mismatch? Would a serious mismatch in signatures between the file and one on the ballot indicate it could be fraudulent?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

They keep a website to track it all. It's all onesy twosy stuff. We're a nation of 350 million - elections aren't going to be perfect.

It's statistically zilch.

The only reason anyone believes that there is any kind of massive fraud, or coordinated fraud, is because a pathological liar who hates losing said so. He said the same in 2016. He called 2012 a "sham."

It's known cases. In 1997 voter fraud changed the outcome of the mayoral race in Miami.

Issue #247: How Fraud in Miami's 1997 Mayor Election helped Dade County Change its name

Miami politics is always controversial

mcimaps.substack.com

As but one example of how voter fraud can affect the outcome of an election.

Is this minor voter fraud?

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map is an interactive tool providing a sampling of proven instances of election fraud across the U.S. From @HeritageDataviz

electionfraud.heritage.org

 

[BartenderElite]

Yes. They are more likely to have more voter fraud. They have more voters and people as a rule. They practice things in how voting occurs that can be shown to increase the ease and propensity of voter fraud being committed. We don't know what the overall rate of fraud actually is.

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map is an interactive tool providing a sampling of proven instances of election fraud across the U.S. From @HeritageDataviz

electionfraud.heritage.org

Voter fraud in US elections? What the data and research shows

The Heritage Foundation found that voter fraud has occurred but in very small numbers.

www.newsweek.com

How widespread is election fraud in the United States? Not very | Brookings

In swing states, reported cases of voter fraud amounts to less than 1%.

www.brookings.edu

This article shows the problem with current analyses quite well, if not what they were aiming for

A Data-Driven Analysis Of Voter Fraud Claims

Explore the truth behind voter fraud claims with real data. This analysis breaks down common myths, compares fraud rates, and reveals why restrictive voting laws often do more harm than good.

perthirtysix.com

Here's one small example of why:

1.5% of all absentee/mail-in ballots were rejected in 2022 - Ballotpedia News

news.ballotpedia.org

As a hypothetical, let's say state A sets the rate for matching signatures on a mail in ballot at having to be 80% of what the on-file signature looks like. State B sets their rate at If the ballot is signed, it's valid. What would be the rejection rate of those two states for signature mismatch? Would a serious mismatch in signatures between the file and one on the ballot indicate it could be fraudulent?

You didn't say they were "more likely."

You said they had the most fraud.

This is getting boring.

 

[FastLane]

They keep a website to track it all. It's all onesy twosy stuff. We're a nation of 350 million - elections aren't going to be perfect.

It's statistically zilch.

The only reason anyone believes that there is any kind of massive fraud, or coordinated fraud, is because a pathological liar who hates losing said so. He said the same in 2016. He called 2012 a "sham."

My main issue with the 2020 elections is state courts changed the times and dates of election laws (like allowing the counting of late ballots) and that is something the constitution ONLY allows the state legislatures to do. Clearly our election laws were corrupted.

 

[BartenderElite]

My main issue with the 2020 elections is state courts changed the times and dates of election laws (like allowing the counting of late ballots) and that is something the constitution ONLY allows the state legislatures to do. Clearly our election laws were corrupted.

I have no issue w/ people who have an issue w/ that. It's legit.

It's not generally what Trump claimed, or what a much of the lie of 2020 has been built on.

 

[FastLane]

It's known cases. In 1997 voter fraud changed the outcome of the mayoral race in Miami.

Issue #247: How Fraud in Miami's 1997 Mayor Election helped Dade County Change its name

Miami politics is always controversial

mcimaps.substack.com

As but one example of how voter fraud can affect the outcome of an election.

LBJ commented voter fraud in Texas to win state office.

 

[Into the Night]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1987902218100453652

View: https://x.com/politico/status/1987902218100453652?t=fYcgqe9pdkzGpoXiBUCYjg&s=19

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/supreme-court-mail-in-voting-case-00644388

Eliminate mass mail-in voting. End of problem....and a lot of fraud.

 

[FastLane]

I have no issue w/ people who have an issue w/ that. It's legit.

It's not what Trump claimed, or what a much of the lie of 2020 has been built on.

He absolutely DID claim exactly that. But our gutless SCOTUS refused to hear the case. After the Bush Gore thing they can't run from election cases fast enough.

 

[Into the Night]

If it’s not the fault of the voter then why not?


Otherwise you could have someone find a way to slow the mail to keep voters from having their rights honored

You don't care about voting rights.

 

[BartenderElite]

He absolutely DID claim exactly that. But our gutless SCOTUS refused to hear the case. Afted the Bush Gore thing they can't run from election cases fast enough.

Yeah, I fixed it. It wasn't his general claim - it was part of the laundry list.

He really grabbed onto anything & everything. Really, he just doesn't like losing. Like I said - he claimed the same in 2016, just because he hated losing the popular.

 

[Into the Night]

Shouldn't states decide?

No, Wally. Election day is set by Congress. See the Constitution.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

LBJ commented voter fraud in Texas to win state office.

Unlike murder or bank robbery where there is an identifiable victim, physical evidence, etc., with voter fraud these things can be difficult to identify and collect. It makes for a situation where fraud can go easily undetected. Going off just the known cases, we can't be anywhere close to sure that it isn't actually occurring.

I linked this case here:

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map is an interactive tool providing a sampling of proven instances of election fraud across the U.S. From @HeritageDataviz

electionfraud.heritage.org

100,000 fraudulent ballots cast in an election in Chicago Illinois in 1982. It would likely have gone undetected if an insider to the fraud didn't turn the ringleader and others involved in out of spite and anger.

 

[FastLane]

It's known cases. In 1997 voter fraud changed the outcome of the mayoral race in Miami.

Issue #247: How Fraud in Miami's 1997 Mayor Election helped Dade County Change its name

Miami politics is always controversial

mcimaps.substack.com

As but one example of how voter fraud can affect the outcome of an election.

Is this minor voter fraud?

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map

The Heritage Foundation's Election Fraud Map is an interactive tool providing a sampling of proven instances of election fraud across the U.S. From @HeritageDataviz

electionfraud.heritage.org

Now if we just had voter ID maybe it would be harder to cheat and easier to catch cheaters.
.

 

[Into the Night]

Then make a new amendment to the Constitution taking away that right from the states. I am not against it.

None needed, Wally.

 

[Into the Night]

So you can erase them and make Donnie king


Yeah we know your plans comrade

Mother Russia tells you what to say

You are describing Democrats, Vincy. It is DEMOCRATS that want an oligarchy or dictatorship.

 

[Into the Night]

Because since voting ends on Election Day many don’t mail in their ballots till that day, ergo, they arrive a few days after Election Day

Eliminate mass mail-in voting. Solves the problem there...and gets rid of a lot of fraud.

 

[Into the Night]

How would we know that?

You could simply have someone hang on to the ballots and then dispose of them instead. SSDD. Mail in elections are fraught with opportunities to commit fraud.

Which is why Democrats WANT mass mail-in voting.

 

[Into the Night]

Nah. It's tuff shit for you, only.

LIF. Grow up.

 

[Into the Night]

Trump's greatest legacy will be baselessly creating doubt about election integrity for millions & millions of voters.

Trump isn't a Democrat, Barfly.

He just doesn't like losing. it's weird that people believe him.

He hasn't lost.

 

[Into the Night]

I have no issue w/ people who have an issue w/ that. It's legit.

It's not generally what Trump claimed, or what a much of the lie of 2020 has been built on.

There was no 2020 election. Nothing was legit. The 2020 election failed due to Democrat election fraud.