The Surprising Cure for Political Division | Psychology Today

I don't agree withe everything trump does same as RFK Jr and Tulsi but I agree in general they are doing a fine job and I liked their appointments. I'm not a hybrid but that doesn't mean I'm not willing to consider alternative POVs

Good point. As you may have noticed, I've been putting in a lot of effort in trying to restore some civility between what I've been calling "Team Owl" and "Team TOP" over in the War Zone. I really don't think that agreeing on various subjects is required to restore civility here, just a basic respect for each other as human beings. If you're curious as to what thread, it's this one:
 
Finding common ground isn't about agreeing on everything, it's about agreeing on -some- things.



I think as long as people aren't forced to marry in a way that's contrary to their nature, things should be good there.
I didn't say it was what I said was finding common ground depends on people at least considering they might be wrong. If they insist they are right and can't be wrong then that's not seeking common ground.

You completely missed the point. The person assumed because I disagree with gay "marriage," then I must be a homophobe. There is no way to seek common ground with a person like that.
 
Good point. As you may have noticed, I've been putting in a lot of effort in trying to restore some civility between what I've been calling "Team Owl" and "Team TOP" over in the War Zone. I really don't think that agreeing on various subjects is required to restore civility here, just a basic respect for each other as human beings. If you're curious as to what thread, it's this one:
If all you are aiming for is civility then sure but on a larger scale I think it's more important to find common ground or what we agree on team owl doesn't seem interested because they assumption is if you don't agree with us then there's something wrong with you. You can try and prove me wrong.

Just an aside that threads is too big for me to wade into. I may have replied a couple times but it's too massive
 
I definitely think more of this is needed. Quoting part of it that I thought was quite interesting, followed by a bit of commentary...

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A real example: How money brought two political opposites together

Before the last presidential election, I attended a personal finance conference. I spent time with a podcaster I admire—someone who sees the world the way I do when it comes to money, family, meaningful work, and the value of helping others. We were part of the same community of purpose.


When he casually mentioned he supported a presidential candidate I strongly opposed, I was stunned.

If the conversation had taken place online, I probably would have unfollowed him. If he’d been a stranger, I might have dismissed him as uninformed or malicious.

But he wasn’t a stranger. I knew him. I trusted who he was.


Instead of shutting down, we talked. Really talked.

Our conversation wasn’t tense. It wasn’t angry. It wasn’t about humiliating or converting the other person. We were curious. We tried to understand. And even though neither of us changed our mind, both of us walked away feeling respected and strangely optimistic.

There’s a name for what we created in that moment: Common ground.

Common ground doesn’t require agreement

It just requires humanity.

And yet, this type of connection is becoming rare. We’re more isolated than ever. Social media replaced social clubs. Streaming replaced community gatherings. Many of us left organized religion, long-term corporate culture, and neighborhoods where people once actually talked to each other.


Even when we want connection, we don’t know where to find it anymore.

A 2025 report from the Urban Institute put it bluntly: Americans now spend less time with other people than at any point in the last 60 years. Social connection is “in decline.”

Of course, politics feels toxic. We’re arguing with strangers, not neighbors. We are debating without relationships, without trust, without grace.

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Source:

Now, here, in this forum, we may never meet a single other poster in person. However, I think that if we try to approach the problem in the same way, we could still get similar results. In other words, to try to see where we agree, not just where we disagree and to give others the benefit of the doubt instead of automatically believing that because they hold x or y believe that we don't agree with, they must automatically be someone to be looked down on or ignored.
Sorry, just bullshit. Trump is the problem. Has nothing to do with a divided nation.
 
Sorry, just bullshit. Trump is the problem. Has nothing to do with a divided nation.
No trump isnt the problem the problem is the lefts inability to accept they lost. They pout like little children. You people have been holding your breath until you turn blue for almost a decade now
 
Finding common ground isn't about agreeing on everything, it's about agreeing on -some- things.
I didn't say it was what I said was finding common ground depends on people at least considering they might be wrong. If they insist they are right and can't be wrong then that's not seeking common ground.

Could we agree that as long as both sides are trying to understand why they disagree with each other, they're on the right track?

I think as long as people aren't forced to marry in a way that's contrary to their nature, things should be good there.
You completely missed the point. The person assumed because I disagree with gay "marriage," then I must be a homophobe. There is no way to seek common ground with a person like that.

I took a look at the 3 dictionary definitions I could find on wordnik.com for homophobe:
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from Wiktionary Creative Commons​

  • noun A person who fears sameness or men.
  • noun A person who is opposed to homosexuals and homosexuality.

from WordNet 3.0 Copyright 2006 by Princeton University. All rights reserved.​

  • noun a person who hates or fears homosexual people
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Would you say that you don't fit any of these descriptions?
 
Good point. As you may have noticed, I've been putting in a lot of effort in trying to restore some civility between what I've been calling "Team Owl" and "Team TOP" over in the War Zone. I really don't think that agreeing on various subjects is required to restore civility here, just a basic respect for each other as human beings. If you're curious as to what thread, it's this one:
If all you are aiming for is civility then sure but on a larger scale I think it's more important to find common ground or what we agree on team owl doesn't seem interested because they assumption is if you don't agree with us then there's something wrong with you. You can try and prove me wrong.

Just an aside that threads is too big for me to wade into. I may have replied a couple times but it's too massive

I think there's some wiggle room to find some agreements, but I also think it takes time. I hear you about the massiveness of the thread though. I'm currently taking a little break from it while I respond to posts here :-p.
 
Because they wanted fascism.

No, they wanted to "make America great again". The problem is that this wasn't what Trump was going to deliver. Here's an article he wrote shortly before the U.S. federal election that point an accurate picture of the true choices Americans were facing:

Here's 2 he wrote shortly after the U.S. election:


Quoting from the last one:
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For over two decades, I and a handful of others — Sheldon Wolin, Noam Chomsky, Chalmers Johnson, Barbara Ehrenreich and Ralph Nader — warned that the expanding social inequality and steady erosion of our democratic institutions, including the media, the Congress, organized labor, academia and the courts, would inevitably lead to an authoritarian or Christian fascist state. My books — “American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America” (2007), “Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle” (2009), “Death of the Liberal Class” (2010), “Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt” (2012), written with Joe Sacco, “Wages of Rebellion” (2015) and “America: The Farewell Tour” (2018) were a succession of impassioned pleas to take the decay seriously. I take no joy in being correct.

“The rage of those abandoned by the economy, the fears and concerns of a beleaguered and insecure middle class, and the numbing isolation that comes with the loss of community, would be the kindling for a dangerous mass movement,” I wrote in “American Fascists” in 2007. “If these dispossessed were not reincorporated into mainstream society, if they eventually lost all hope of finding good, stable jobs and opportunities for themselves and their children — in short, the promise of a brighter future — the specter of American fascism would beset the nation. This despair, this loss of hope, this denial of a future, led the desperate into the arms of those who promised miracles and dreams of apocalyptic glory.”

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