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yes. it's a problem when people are unwilling to consider they are wrong and are impolite and censorious about it.

the lockdowns, mandatory injections, and censorship about different points of view about the vaccine and virus came close to destroying the country.

I think we definitely agree regarding a lot of the lockdowns/mandatory injections and censhorship in regards to the disagreeing with the official covid narrative.

just as the libertarians ready to kill people over protecting fascism are quite terrifying.

I'm not sure what you mean by the line above.
 
I'm glad to hear that you don't "fit the description", as it were. Out of curiosity, why are you opposed to homosexual marriage?
First the argument for it is severely flawed. Second a marriage has historically been between a man and a woman and I believe societies/govts have a compelling reason to encourage it.
 
I think you're stereotyping those on the left. I think that a leftist like Chris Hedges does quite a good job at understanding some of the root causes for the right's support of Trump. I think this article he wrote shortly after Trump's win in the last federal election is evidence of this:
All stereotypes have some basis in reality. You lost at "root.causes" as if there is some deep seeded reasons why people supported trump. It's very easy to see why people voted for trump. There is no "root cause". This leads to the point I've been making all along. The assumption here is there has to be something wrong with Trump supporters to support him and it NEVER crosses a leftists mind to wonder maybe it's us. See this why I fell struggle with you people.
 
In these days of intense political divisions in the U.S. and elsewhere, it can be pretty hard to have civilized rational discussions on why the various sides disagree withi each other. Yet I think those discussions are the only real way forward.
I understand but posting an article about the "root causes" of trump support doesnt really support your claim here does it?
 
I think that people here, on both the left and the right, have the capacity of admitting they could be wrong about some things. But in order to tap into that capacity, I think that civilized discussions have to take place. The more discussions start turning into insult fests, the less I see that happening.
Of course they have the capacity but we're back to willingness. Sorry but I don't see much of that from the left. Show me how I'm wrong.
 
I'm glad to hear that you don't "fit the description", as it were. Out of curiosity, why are you opposed to homosexual marriage?
First the argument for it is severely flawed.

What draws you to that conclusion?

Second a marriage has historically been between a man and a woman [snip]

Historically, slavery was legal. I think we can agree that it's a good thing that that's changed.
 
What draws you to that conclusion?



Historically, slavery was legal. I think we can agree that it's a good thing that that's changed.
You have to show that the law prevented gays from marrying because they were gay.

No one is forced to marry so I have no idea why brought up slavery.
 
I think you're stereotyping those on the left.
All stereotypes have some basis in reality.

I suspect you wouldn't be so amenable to that notion if we were to talk about stereotypes of those on the right :-p.

You lost at "root.causes" as if there is some deep seeded reasons why people supported trump.

I believe there are some deep seated reasons for why people supported Trump. I also believe that the article from Chris Hedges that I linked to in the post you're responding to gets into these reasons. For the audience, this is the article I linked to in my previous post:

It's very easy to see why people voted for trump. There is no "root cause". This leads to the point I've been making all along. The assumption here is there has to be something wrong with Trump supporters to support him and it NEVER crosses a leftists mind to wonder maybe it's us. See this why I fell struggle with you people.

I said root causes, plural, not singular. As to "the assumption", it's yours, not mine. I never said there was nothing wrong with the left, or to be more specific here, the democrats. Again, Chris Hedges gets into the many things that were wrong with the democrats leading up to Trump's second electoral victory in November 2024 in the article I've linked to above.
 
In these days of intense political divisions in the U.S. and elsewhere, it can be pretty hard to have civilized rational discussions on why the various sides disagree withi each other. Yet I think those discussions are the only real way forward.
I understand but posting an article about the "root causes" of trump support doesnt really support your claim here does it?

I think it does actually. I think the main problem here is that you didin't read the article I linked to and jumped to a false conclusion as to what those root causes are. For the audience, I'm referring to this article:
 
I think that people here, on both the left and the right, have the capacity of admitting they could be wrong about some things. But in order to tap into that capacity, I think that civilized discussions have to take place. The more discussions start turning into insult fests, the less I see that happening.
Of course they have the capacity but we're back to willingness. Sorry but I don't see much of that from the left. Show me how I'm wrong.

Getting someone to see that they're mistaken about their deep seated beliefs is never going to be easy. I think the best we can do is be respectful with each other and try to understand why we disagree with each other. Over the decades that I've posted online, I think I've seen a few positive outcomes in the realm of change. I myself have changed my views on certain subjects over the years as well.
 
What draws you to that conclusion?

Historically, slavery was legal. I think we can agree that it's a good thing that that's changed.
You have to show that the law prevented gays from marrying because they were gay.

Sure:
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The legal recognition of same-sex marriage in the United States expanded from one state in 2004 (Massachusetts) to all 50 states in 2015 through various court rulings, state legislation, and direct popular vote. States have separate marriage laws, which must adhere to rulings by the Supreme Court of the United States that recognize marriage as a fundamental right guaranteed by both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, as first established in the 1967 landmark civil rights case of Loving v. Virginia. Same-sex marriages are also licensed in and recognized by Washington, D.C. and all U.S. territories except for American Samoa, but not in some Native American tribal nations.
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No one is forced to marry so I have no idea why brought up slavery.

You had mentioned that, historically, marriage had been between a man and a woman. I mentioned that, historically, slavery was legal to get you to consider that changes in what society thinks should be allowed and not allowed can sometimes be a very good thing.
 
I could guess what you mean, by I think it'd be better if you were to bring up an example of what you mean instead.
depopulation Nazis doing gain of function research, creating pathogens, releasing them on the world, then force-selling the ineffective vaccine through the government, then censoring the truth, and the media who support it and the individuals who support it.
 
where were you on vaccine/covid information censorship?
If I knew what the fuck you were spewing, it would help.
you don't want good things.
Perhaps he's simply unaware of the vaccine/covid information censorship that transpired during the Biden Administration.
no.

he's a big pharma fascist depopulation Nazi.

This is why we can't have nice things. We need to stop jumping to conclusions about each other.
 
I could guess what you mean, by I think it'd be better if you were to bring up an example of what you mean instead.
depopulation Nazis doing gain of function research, creating pathogens, releasing them on the world, then force-selling the ineffective vaccine through the government, then censoring the truth, and the media who support it and the individuals who support it.

Well, we agree on the innefective vaccine part at any rate. As you know, I don't believe that biological viruses exist, which means that regardless of what those doing gain of function research -think- they're doing, for me they're just playing make belief, at least if we're talking about biological viruses. I suspect that the dangers of bacteria are greatly exagerated, but I at least believe in bacteria.
 
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