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[Hume]

He is dividing it deliberately. He talked about us against them. He pushes, hating the left. and demonizes them with insulting and childish names which are used on this board tirelessly. Not buillshit, but a plan carried out by the right.

Like I said, it is Trump, not the nation.

 

[Scott]

I agree that injustices are frequently perpetrated because of previous injustices. The only thing we can do is try to stop the cycle of injustices- in general, people can't do that on the national level, but we -can- try to be nicer to the people we interact with and also refrain from responding in kind we are attacked verbally.

We can do it nationally but we don't have the stomach for it.

I think this very forum is a good example of the problem- both sides generally insist that the other side is the most if not all of the problem. It's certainly convenient, but it results in not much understanding taking place.

 

[Scott]

No, I'm not making that assumption at all. I'm simply saying that, prior to 2004, no U.S. state allowed same sex marriage. Now, every state allows it, with the only holdouts being the American Samoa U.S. territory and some native tribal lands.

Right and the law didn't prevent gay people from marrying because they were gay.

I suspect that, consciously or unconsciously, you're trying to avoid the point I'm trying to convey. The U.S. used to prohibit 2 people of the same sex from marrying. That's now changed for the most part. I for one think that's a good thing.

Also no state allowed marrying animals either should we legalize the too?

You are clearly trying to equate people of the same sex being allowed to marry with people being allowed to marry animals. I think it's safe to say that most people don't equate these 2 things.

 

[Scott]

the political division and split in American society is a deliberate design by the Federalist Society and Supreme Court Justice John Roberts.

It is directly tied to 'unlimited dark money in politics', and 'extreme gerrymandering'.

When you allow extreme gerrymandering creating safe seats it REQUIRES a politician trying to be successful to appeal and spur on the extremes in their party. You simply will not win trying to be a centrist or uniter.

the reason they are pushing is because they want to remake the US governance system of one of 'minority rule forever' seeing the threat that America was heading towards being a majority minority country.

That was something they could not tolerate as it was clear for the Republicans to continue winning they would have to embrace brown and black people and women voters and maybe even promote them to top positions including running for POTUS.

For the hard core right racists and misogynists (Steven Miller types) that was a no go. Better to break the system then embrace winning with a big tent diverse party, which they really had a good chance to do.

You seem to think that the problem is one mainly if not entirely caused by powerful men, whereas I think that the problem lies in pretty much all the people on both sides of the fence who dislike or outright hate each other because of their different views. This reminds me of a line from a movie I really liked, The English Patient:
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We’re the real countries.

Not the boundaries drawn on maps, the names of powerful men.
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Source:

The English Patient (1996) | Transcript - Scraps from the loft

At the close of World War II, a young nurse tends to a badly-burned plane crash victim. His past is shown in flashbacks, revealing an involvement in a fateful love affair.

scrapsfromtheloft.com

 

[Scott]

He is dividing it deliberately. He talked about us against them. He pushes, hating the left. and demonizes them with insulting and childish names which are used on this board tirelessly. Not buillshit, but a plan carried out by the right.

Are you suggesting that Trump is the only one who demonizes his opponents? I see such demonization here on both sides on a daily basis.