cops murder doctor in his own home

volsrocks said:
You don't have protection of the Fourth amendment if you are fleeing arrest the court has ruled on this you God damn stupid mother fucking idiot
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he was not fleeing arrest, moron. you can't flee arrest if you weren't already chased in to your home by cops. Lanis was secure in his house at the time the cops came knocking. I gave you the relevant case law, you ignore it for your own cop sucking desires.
 
zymurgy said:
you have no evidence that they showed up without an arrest warrant

you made that assumption based on your ignorance of why they would of asked him outside
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again, if the cops had an arrest warrant, they would not have tried to coerce him outside. your belief about officer safety is invalid.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
again, if the cops had an arrest warrant, they would not have tried to coerce him outside. your belief about officer safety is invalid.
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you are ignorant about personal safety

don't know how to even use a weapon. or fight. pussy says what... just a typical liberal crybaby about law enforcement
 
SmarterthanYou said:
again, if the cops had an arrest warrant, they would not have tried to coerce him outside. your belief about officer safety is invalid.
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legal and safety considerations often lead to arrests occurring in public or outside of a private residence
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SmarterthanYou said:
again, if the cops had an arrest warrant, they would not have tried to coerce him outside. your belief about officer safety is invalid.
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Police may prefer to make arrests outside a private residence for officer safety, as it can be safer than a potentially hazardous and unpredictable indoor environment
. A home can contain hidden weapons, other individuals, or be a space where suspects can escape or destroy evidence. Arresting someone outside allows officers to have a clearer view and control over the immediate surroundings, with fewer places to hide.


Again this shows you are a goddamn mom fucking idiot
 
volsrocks said:
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Police may prefer to make arrests outside a private residence for officer safety, as it can be safer than a potentially hazardous and unpredictable indoor environment
. A home can contain hidden weapons, other individuals, or be a space where suspects can escape or destroy evidence. Arresting someone outside allows officers to have a clearer view and control over the immediate surroundings, with fewer places to hide.


Again this shows you are a goddamn mom fucking idiot
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this is just opinion, which does not override the 4th Amendment. Clearly you prefer government authority over the US Constitution
 
SmarterthanYou said:
no warrant exists because had there been one, the police would most certainly have posted it to the public to justify killing a citizen. you don't get that, though, because you believe police over citizens.
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bullshit

outside of a few meth heads, this is a non-story. the family understood he was in the wrong. the public did as well. the camera footage was released, and only shit stains like you carry on
 
zymurgy said:
bullshit

outside of a few meth heads, this is a non-story. the family understood he was in the wrong. the public did as well. the camera footage was released, and only shit stains like you carry on
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again, it doesn't matter if the person actually committed the crime or not. the 4th Amendment still exists. You're simply proving that you prefer government control over freedom. A warrant IS necessary to enter the home.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
again, it doesn't matter if the person actually committed the crime or not. the 4th Amendment still exists. You're simply proving that you prefer government control over freedom. A warrant IS necessary to enter the home.
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you have zero evidence of a lack of warrant

so you have two options

wait for facts

keep your head up your ignorant ass and debate with zero facts
 
SmarterthanYou said:
suspect was calm, INSIDE the house, and nowhere else to go. you're reaching for any excuse to avoid being wrong.
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Legal basis for entry

  • Probable cause: This is a legal standard that gives police the authority to enter your home even without a warrant if they have a strong belief you are inside and are involved in a crime.
He was involved in a crime and told he was under arrest for it
 
SmarterthanYou said:
again, it doesn't matter if the person actually committed the crime or not.
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Legal basis for entry

  • Probable cause: This is a legal standard that gives police the authority to enter your home even without a warrant if they have a strong belief you are inside and are involved in a crime.
He was involved in a crime and told he was under arrest for it

That's probable cause to enter
 
volsrocks said:
Legal basis for entry

  • Probable cause: This is a legal standard that gives police the authority to enter your home even without a warrant if they have a strong belief you are inside and are involved in a crime.
He was involved in a crime and told he was under arrest for it

That's probable cause to enter
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so police suspicion is higher status than the Constitution. got it. don't ever engage in a Constitutional discussion with anyone again, since it's clear you have no clue about it.

I gave you the supreme court case on it, but I guess you hate them now, don't you?
 
anonymoose said:
Let’s see. He was being arrested for harassing the family of his wife he was divorcing. Nothing wrong or out of the ordinary there.
Lanis resisted arrest. Never good but no reason to kill him.
He pulled a handgun on the cops while resisting arrest. Uh, this kinda changes everything.
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You seem to imply the police did something wrong. If that's the case, what was that thing?

The knocked on the door.
Landis opens it
The police tell him he's under arrest
He flees into the house and brandishes a firearm
The police have legal cause to pursue him to affect the arrest
The police try to restrain him and tell him repeatedly to drop the weapon
Landis doesn't comply in the least
The police tase him
Landis continues to resist and retains control of the handgun
The police shoot him

What should they have done differently?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
You seem to imply the police did something wrong. If that's the case, what was that thing?

The knocked on the door.
Landis opens it
The police tell him he's under arrest
He flees into the house and brandishes a firearm
The police have legal cause to pursue him to affect the arrest
The police try to restrain him and tell him repeatedly to drop the weapon
Landis doesn't comply in the least
The police tase him
Landis continues to resist and retains control of the handgun
The police shoot him

What should they have done differently?
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I read it as he pointed out what the deceased did wrong
 
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