Sen Mark Kelly is being investigated for violations of the UCMJ after his video telling service members to disobey the duly elected Commander in Chief

Yakuda said:
Telling people to disobey "illegal" orders maggot mouth
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They were told the same thing. I guess according to you those who told and drilled the troops that should be persecuted.

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US military members are required to disobey illegal orders, as the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) states they must obey lawful orders but also refuse unlawful ones. Illegal orders are those that violate the Constitution, international law, or human rights
 
AProudLefty said:
They were told the same thing. I guess according to you those who told and drilled the troops that should be persecuted.

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US military members are required to disobey illegal orders, as the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) states they must obey lawful orders but also refuse unlawful ones. Illegal orders are those that violate the Constitution, international law, or human rights
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The only reason to do what these filthy pigs did was to sow confusion and doubt in the chain of command. You people are America hating assholes.
 
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OFFICIAL STATEMENT:

The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality. Further official comments will be limited, to preserve the integrity of the proceedings.

The Department of War reminds all individuals that military retirees remain subject to the UCMJ for applicable offenses, and federal laws such as 18 U.S.C. § 2387 prohibit actions intended to interfere with the loyalty, morale, or good order and discipline of the armed forces. Any violations will be addressed through appropriate legal channels.

All servicemembers are reminded that they have a legal obligation under the UCMJ to obey lawful orders and that orders are presumed to be lawful. A servicemember’s personal philosophy does not justify or excuse the disobedience of an otherwise lawful order.

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Sounds like more trumped-up charges
 
Yakuda said:
The only reason to do what these filthy pigs did was to sow confusion and doubt in the chain of command. You people are America hating assholes.
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Okay so you want those who taught the military they have the duty to disobey illegal orders be persecuted.

You are sowing confusion and you hate America.
 
Earl said:
“…At a press conference in Memphis, Tennessee, on Monday announcing anti-crime efforts there, Bondi said the Justice Department would take an “immediate appeal” of the judge’s rulings and also pursue “all available legal action.” She did not elaborate.

Any appeal, which would go to the Richmond, Virginia-based 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, could mean a delay for any attempt to re-indict Comey or James.

Is the Comey case cooked since the clock ran out?​

When Halligan raced to indict Comey just three days after Bondi appointed herat Trump’s urging, it was to beat a Sept. 30 statute of limitations that would have prevented her from indicting him at all.

Currie’s dismissal of the case, however, may have triggered a law that provides a six-month period for the Justice Department to try again, even after the statute of limitations expired…”
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Yes. I posted that yesterday and i am hoping they can get that 6 months as i want this dismissed due to the more serious errors Halligan made in the GJ that will see her disbarred and the DOJ potentially cited for lying to the court.

BUt i suspect that 6 month exception will not apply here because if that is the case, any case about to be shut down via a Statute of Limitations can just send in any Prosecutor in a rush to file any nonsense, knowing it will get tossed but give them 6 months more of time to prosecute. It could easily be used, by incompetent and corrupt DoJ's in the future to game the clock.

so i suspect they will find the 'technical error' has to be a 'good faith' error for that to apply and not a negligence or deceipt one.
 
What a waste of time. He and others told soldiers to not follow ILLEGAL orders. Trump is wasting more tax money on his hate and vengeance tour. Do you Trumpys really think they should follow ILLEGAL orders?
 
Yakuda said:
The only reason to do what these filthy pigs did was to sow confusion and doubt in the chain of command. You people are America hating assholes.
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Which is why Yakuda thinks Military schools and police Academies, etc all sow confusion by teaching this stuff. Stating what the law is and that it should be followed just needs to be banned as it confuses poor guys like Yakuda when Trump is constantly calling for unlawful to be done or considered or discussed.
 
AProudLefty said:
Okay so you want those who taught the military they have the duty to disobey illegal orders be persecuted.

You are sowing confusion and you hate America.
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If they "taught" them then there isn't any reason to tell them since they already know unless of course your goal is confuse.people and make them doubt the chain of command.

You twats have always hated America.
 
Yakuda said:
If they "taught" them then there isn't any reason to tell them since they already know unless of course your goal is confuse.people and make them doubt the chain of command.

You twats have always hated America.
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:lolup: He thinks the military is easily confused.

Anyway, it's a reminder.
 
AProudLefty said:
:lolup: He thinks the military is easily confused.

Anyway, it's a reminder.
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No they are easily confused but why remind them of something you claim they already know? How many times does a commanding officer have to give a order? The whole thing is nothing but an attempt to cast doubt on the chain of command.
 
Yakuda said:
No they are easily confused but why remind them of something you claim they already know? How many times does a commanding officer have to give a order? The whole thing is nothing but an attempt to cast doubt on the chain of command.
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Claim? They have been taught and drilled about it.

By your logic, the military has been sowing confusion and doubt by doing that.
 
Yakuda said:
No they are easily confused but why remind them of something you claim they already know? How many times does a commanding officer have to give a order? The whole thing is nothing but an attempt to cast doubt on the chain of command.
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Are they testing the waters to find out who might go along with their agenda? Inquiring minds want to know. The history buffs would be interested.
 
AProudLefty said:
Claim? They have been taught and drilled about it.

By your logic, the military has been sowing confusion and doubt by doing that.
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Then they don't need to hear it again. How many times does a commander officer have to give an order?

Not the case at all Waldo. Given the current political circumstances in America where mayors and governors are questioning federal authority this is just more of the same. In this instance it's not intended to prevent following illegal orders it's an attempt to cast doubt on the command structure and to push the leftist anti American agenda.
 
Yakuda said:
Then they don't need to hear it again. How many times does a commander officer have to give an order?

Not the case at all Waldo. Given the current political circumstances in America where mayors and governors are questioning federal authority this is just more of the same. In this instance it's not intended to prevent following illegal orders it's an attempt to cast doubt on the command structure and to push the leftist anti American agenda.
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They have been questioning Biden and Obama too. I guess they ought be persecuted according to you for "sowing confusion and doubt".
 
AProudLefty said:
They have been questioning Biden and Obama too. I guess they ought be persecuted according to you for "sowing confusion and doubt".
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Which non military government authorities publicly suggested to the military, during the Obama and Biden administrations, not to follow illegal orders. Names and citations please.
 
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