Damo there are several churches that observe the 7th day Sabbath
Like the United Church of God, The True Jesus Church, Assembles of Yahweh., Seventh Day Adventist, Seventh Day Baptist, Church of God 7th Day. and others.
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Like the United Church of God, The True Jesus Church, Assembles of Yahweh., Seventh Day Adventist, Seventh Day Baptist, Church of God 7th Day. and others.
I do not care, I asked you how many are going to hell for remembering on a day you don't want them to... I do not think that Jesus was there to correct the day of the week... It's your religion though, you can tell Billy Graham how he's going to hell for remembering the sabbath on Sunday.
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All of the quotes you have given tell them to "remember" the day. You have already quoted them. None of them corrected or change what I stated. You are commanded to remember that he took the 7th day off.
I think God will make a judgement of did you follow man's word because it is easier or did you follow His word because it was the right thing to do. I also think he will judge them on the light that they have. There are a lot of devout Christians that don't realize the first day observance is not scriptural.
Act 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Anyway, it is scriptural, there is a reason Christians almost always do this on Sundays, and it is scriptural.
| Verse | What actually happened | Key point |
|---|---|---|
| Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:2,9; Luke 24:1; John 20:1 | Women came to the tomb “on the first day of the week” | Resurrection occurred early Sunday morning |
| John 20:19 | Disciples gathered “on the first day of the week” (same day, evening) | Jesus appeared to them (fear of Jews, doors locked) |
| John 20:26 | “After eight days” (i.e., the next Sunday) Jesus appeared again | Second Sunday meeting |
| Acts 20:7 | Troas: disciples “gathered to break bread” on the first day of the week; Paul preached until midnight | Only explicit Lord’s-Day worship service described |
| 1 Corinthians 16:2 | Paul instructs churches: “On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up” | Regular Sunday collection (implies a regular Sunday meeting) |
| Revelation 1:10 | John was “in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day” (κυριακῇ ἡμέρᾳ) | Early Christian term for Sunday (see Didache 14:1, Ignatius to Magnesians 9:1 ~A.D. 107) |
You should try not to rely on confirmation bias and actually learn the Bible. I recommend studying the new testament in Greek, it will often give you a better idea of what was said than the KJV or even the NIV which sometimes loses the idioms in the translation.
Well that isn't exactly true. He specifically bless and hallowed the 7th day not one in seven days. I showed you where he specially pointed out which day was the 7th day by performing a miracle on that day for 40 years. I showed you the day that Christ , our example, observed. At no time does the Bible say the Sabbath is a upickem day.
And then showed up on the 8th day over and over again, creating a tradition in the church. As I said... There is a reason they chose that day.Well that isn't exactly true. He specifically bless and hallowed the 7th day not one in seven days. I showed you where he specially pointed out which day was the 7th day by performing a miracle on that day for 40 years. I showed you the day that Christ , our example, observed. At no time does the Bible say the Sabbath is a upickem day.
I am a Buddhist... I can go on Thursday, like they do almost everywhere in Asia, but here in the US they do Sundays usually because it is the day the vast majority of the population has a day for that kind of thing. If it was a bible thing it would not matter that I changed the day, what would matter is if I remembered the sabbath and kept that memory holy...
Regardless, I gave you verses where God himself appeared to the disciples... It is clearly an apostolic thing...
Again, you cannot prove that they knew it was the same day of the week... It was just the 7th day they chose.... God didn't command Adam remember which day was the 7th or to do anything on that day, it was Moses that got that commandment.Well that isn't exactly true. He specifically bless and hallowed the 7th day not one in seven days. I showed you where he specially pointed out which day was the 7th day by performing a miracle on that day for 40 years. I showed you the day that Christ , our example, observed. At no time does the Bible say the Sabbath is a upickem day.
It doesn't matter which day you do it, only that you remember that 7th day...
Nice cut and paste Damo. Let's look at a few of them.
Only explicit Lord’s-Day worship service described
Acts 20:7
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
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Act 20:8
And there were many lights in the upper chamber, where they were gathered together.
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Act 20:9
And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead.
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Act 20:10
And Paul went down, and fell on him, and embracing him said, Trouble not yourselves; for his life is in him.
These scriptures are important because they show Paul raising Eutychus from the dead by the Holy Spirit.
Paul was a very important traveling preacher in the early church . It was his custom to observe the Sabbath and to preach the gospel. . Paul Observed the 7th day Sabbath over 70 times in the NT. The days of the week in the Bible are counted from sundown to sundown. So if Paul did as his custom he preached on the 7th day Sabbath then sundown occurred (now 1st day of week) and Paul squeezed in addition preaching AT NIGHT (Saturday night) but the 1st day of the week because he was leaving to walk a long way to catch a sailing ship the next morning still 1st day of the week. (Sunday).
You don't observe the Sabbath by starting a long journey like Paul did. Sabbath is a day of rest not a day of journey.
Here is proof Paul observed the Sabbath. When the Gentiles ask him to preach to them the next Sabbath. He didn't say we can do that tomorrow on the 1st day of the week.
Act 13:42
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And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
Act 13:44¶
And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Act 17:2
And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
Act 18:4
And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
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So you think God forgot which day of the week he rested on and made Holy? That's your position? GOD performed a miracle every week for 40 years time-stamping the Sabbath for them and admonished the Jews to observe it. And they did. They were observing the Sabbath BEFORE MOUNT SINAI.
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I think people never tracked that day and when they received the commandment chose to do it on the 7th day after that point... I think Jesus also remembered the day on the same one they chose, because it didn't matter if it was the specific "weekaversary"... Of course I don't think Jesus was God's son or "God" but that's on you. I also think that Matthew Chapter 7 needs to have a focus on it... You should read that one well rather than trying to judge people only to find that because you didn't know the specific day you're going to go to hell... because you will be judged in the same manner you judge others...
I am literal, and pay attention to the words. If I were a Jew or a Christian I would remember that day, and keep that memory holy by observing it every 7 days. If I were a Christian I would do it on the day the Bible says is the "Lord's Day" (verse listed above) because that is the day that Jesus rose from the dead and appeared to the apostles, etc. and is the day that the vast majority of Christians observe that day. But I would understand that it probably doesn't coincide with the exact same "day of the week" that God said "let there be light"...
Both are Biblical, and both follow the commandment. I do not think that all those christians would go to hell for "doing as the romans do"...
christiefan915
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Leaving out tradition, Scripture was compiled by men and men are fallible. And, the Bible has gone through changes over time.
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Yes, the Bible has undergone changes over time, including edits and variations in translations. These changes can be attributed to factors like copying errors, translation differences, and the removal or addition of certain texts in various versions.
WikipediaChanges in the Bible Over Time
Historical Editing and Variations
The Bible has undergone various changes throughout its history. These changes include:- Editing and Redaction: Many books within the Bible were edited or compiled from earlier texts. For example, 1-2 Chronicles is considered an edited version of earlier biblical narratives.
- Translation Variants: Different translations of the Bible, such as the Septuagint (a Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible), often show significant differences from the original Hebrew texts. The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls revealed Hebrew manuscripts that sometimes align more closely with these Greek texts than with the later standardized Hebrew versions.
Manuscript Differences
- Scribal Errors: Many changes are minor and can be attributed to scribal errors or translation differences. However, some variations are more significant, such as the different endings of the Gospel of Mark and the story of the woman caught in adultery, which appears in some manuscripts but not in others.
- Canonical Differences: The number of books considered canonical varies among different religious traditions. For instance, the Protestant Bible contains 66 books, while the Catholic Bible includes 73, and the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible has 81.
Impact of Changes
These changes raise questions about the Bible's authority and interpretation. While some view these variations as problematic, others see them as part of the Bible's organic development over time. The core belief remains that the Bible serves as a spiritual guide, regardless of its textual history.The Lord's day is the Sabbath
Mar 2:28
Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Prove me wrong.
christiefan915
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The seventh day is part of Mosaic law. Christians are under the New Covenant.
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The Mosaic Law does not apply to Christians as a binding legal code; instead, Christians are under the new covenant established by Jesus, which fulfills and supersedes the old law. However, the moral principles found in the Mosaic Law can still provide guidance for Christian living.
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I proved it above, with verses.
IBDaMann
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Nope. That is not the case. The Bible is supreme with Catholics and there can be no conflicts with it. Catholics are rather militant about that.
Where you might be getting confused is that Catholics are typically not Biblical literalists outside of Mississippi, USA.
Tradition "fills in the gaps" but can never contradict.
A militant atheist wants to join a discussion about what goes on in the sanctuary spaces of American churches 
AProudLefty
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So you have no point.
AProudLefty
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If you're talking about businesses and companies accepting the LGBT, you'd have a point.
In the picture it was not being used politically.