You must disobey unlawful orders

ZenMode said:
There's been no cover-up. There's been no charges brought. No judicial body has said that war crimes have been committed.

For Congress to come out and imply that there have a been war crimes committed is irresponsible and dangerous.
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Nice try on defending the Trump administration and their killings on the High Seas. :thup:

ZenMode said:
Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, telling the country that our military is committing war crimes is a bad idea.
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Dutch Uncle said:
Nice try on defending the Trump administration and their killings on the High Seas. :thup:
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I said nothing about Trump. It's absolutely possible that war crimes have been committed, but that has nothing to do with how irresponsible it is for Congress to imply that war crimes have already happened. That is speculation and dangerous. Stuff like that is how national guard people end up shot.
 
ZenMode said:
I said nothing about Trump. It's absolutely possible that war crimes have been committed, but that has nothing to do with how irresponsible it is for Congress to imply that war crimes have already happened. That is speculation and dangerous. Stuff like that is how national guard people end up shot.
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Sure you did. You can run from your own posts but the fact remains the subject is the unlawful orders of committing murder on the high seas and you are defending the administration doing it.

It's the job of Congress to protect the United States. This includes preventing any illegal actions by our government since those could blow back on us in terms of reprisals on Americans abroad.

Those National Guardsmen were shot by a mentally ill man who the Trump administration granted asylum. You bitch about Congress without a single peep about the hateful, heated rhetoric from your Orange Jesus.

If it walks like a MAGAt cracker retard and talks like a MAGAt cracker retard then it's probably a MAGAt cracker retard.
 
Earl said:
So, Marty, you want the boats to continue bringing drugs into our country, killing millions, including children.

Not to worry, enough drugs will get through to keep you supplied.

These Narco-terrorists have been designated to be terrorists and are open game, on land and sea.

Why are you giving support to Narco-terrorists who are killing our people?

Why, Marty?
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Why, Earl, are you accusing him of saying things he never said?


If Hegesth ordered helpless enemy combatants killed, yes, it is a war crime. They are not open game if rendered helpless.
 
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Earl said:
We have been killing those designated as terrorists for decades.

No Miranda warnings by Obama, Bush, Clinton, the vegetable, or president Trump.

Killing terrorists is an honorable and necessary act when barbarians are at the gate.
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We are talking about killing the enemy that has been rendered helpless.

Killing helpless survivors is barbarism.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Sure you did. You can run from your own posts but the fact remains the subject is the unlawful orders of committing murder on the high seas and you are defending the administration doing it.
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What judicial/legal body, with the authority to do so, has ruled that war crimes are being committed?

Surely, Congress wouldn't imply the war crimes are being committed, put military personnel at risk and undermine the President based on speculation, right?
 
ZenMode said:
What judicial/legal body, with the authority to do so, has ruled that war crimes are being committed?

Surely, Congress wouldn't imply the war crimes are being committed, put military personnel at risk and undermine the President based on speculation, right?
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No one yet, but, again, you are dodging your own claim that anyone who said such a crime was committed is wrong. That Trump's actions shouldn't be questioned.

This is why I know you are a MAGAt cracker retard behind your mask.

ZenMode said:
Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, telling the country that our military is committing war crimes is a bad idea.
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QP! said:
But never has a POTUS simply declared drug dealers, CRIMINALS, will now be considered terrorists
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Obama declared the Taliban an "enemy force."

QP! said:
Those accused of moving mass amounts of drugs within America or even foreigners caught bringing them in to America GET A TRIAL
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So you are conflating different things that are not the same. Dismissed. If you want your frothing at the mouth to have more of an audience, discuss international waters, not domestic solid ground.
 
ZenMode said:
What judicial/legal body, with the authority to do so, has ruled that war crimes are being committed?

Surely, Congress wouldn't imply the war crimes are being committed, put military personnel at risk and undermine the President based on speculation, right?
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Is it speculation that Hegseth ordered a second strike on a drug boat that held helpless survivors of a missile strike?

The investigation into Pete Hegseth’s alleged “kill everybody” order is now a formal, bipartisan congressional probe, with both the House and Senate Armed Services Committees gathering evidence, holding hearings, and reviewing operational records. Lawmakers are treating the September 2, 2025 Caribbean boat strike as potentially a war crime if reports of a second strike on defenseless survivors are substantiated.

ww.btimesonline.com/articles/176111/20251201/congress-opens-bipartisan-probe-into-alleged-hegseth-ordered-killings-in-caribbean-strike.htm
 
Dutch Uncle said:
No one yet, but, again, you are dodging your own claim that anyone who said such a crime was committed is wrong. That Trump's actions shouldn't be questioned.

This is why I know you are a MAGAt cracker retard behind your mask.
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Saying a crime has been committed is an opinion. Rand Paul, who's probably my favorite person in government, said it was a crime. The issue is assuming you're right, as the 6 Dem Congressman did, and telling the military to not follow orders.
 
Jake Starkey said:
Is it speculation that Hegseth ordered a second strike on a drug boat that held helpless survivors of a missile strike?

The investigation into Pete Hegseth’s alleged “kill everybody” order is now a formal, bipartisan congressional probe, with both the House and Senate Armed Services Committees gathering evidence, holding hearings, and reviewing operational records. Lawmakers are treating the September 2, 2025 Caribbean boat strike as potentially a war crime if reports of a second strike on defenseless survivors are substantiated.

ww.btimesonline.com/articles/176111/20251201/congress-opens-bipartisan-probe-into-alleged-hegseth-ordered-killings-in-caribbean-strike.htm
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Irrelevant. Again, anyone can express their opinion. Congress shouldn't be telling military personnel not to follow orders based on their opinions.
 
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