What does this painting mean to you?

It's a sentimental painting Dachsieweenie, but ignores the reality of crying babies, kids pushing each other around in the pews or running up and down the aisles, people falling asleep during the homily and other human behaviours. There's a reason church's created "crying rooms."

The fact that this portrait is inside a Protestant church (Protestant setting does not mean he (the autist) was primarily concerned with making the Protestant " religion per se" the cynosures of all eyes , Rather, he was trying to capture something bigger, This something was the nature of American culture in the 1950 s. Of coures America has had .
I am getting so sick and tired of these nostalgic white folk and they love for yesterfuckinday, always trying to show up white people as these God fearing church loving mf's. People can't even go to fuckin church without white hating motherfuckers showing up and acting fools...so miss me on this mom, dad and white kids photo shit. There is NOT ONE SINGLE VENTURE OR VENUE THAT BLACK PEOPLE CAN STAKE CLAIMS TO THAT WHITE PEOPLE HAVEN'T TAKEN, STOLEN OR BOUGHT, NOT ONE. Every gotdamn where we go, they show the fuck up. FACT
Well, if White people are really getting to you like this you have a simple solution at hand, Brother. You could self-deport your black ass back to mudda efrice. That way you would be happy and White Americans would be happy. There are plenty of African countries that would be glad to welcome you back, For example Somalia, South Africa, the Congo, Nigeria and so on. I mean, sure they're violent places with sky-high murder and rape figures, and sure the locals who live in then have average IQ's scores in the 60s and spend most their time fucking monkeys, shitting in their own mud huts and practicing cannibalism and witchcraft, And sure their government are all profoundly corrupt and have political leaders who are too stupid to know how to run a country so it provides basic services like education, healthcare, reliable Power potable water supply, and other essential infrastructure ,

Apart from these trivial little problems, you'd fit in just fine if you flew yourself back to Africa. Because this where your cultural roots are - you'd be back with your own people. All you'd have to do is put a bone through your nose, walk around with your cock wrapped in a bark sheath and swingin' low (to impress the local ladies), participate in your village's monthly, greased pig-fucking content and you'd be granted citizenship before you could say "Jack Robinson"
 
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The fact that this portrait is inside a Protestant church (Protestant setting does not mean he (the autist) was primarily concerned with making the Protestant " religion per se" the cynosures of all eyes , Rather, he was trying to capture something bigger, This something was the nature of American culture in the 1950 s. Of coures America has had .

Well, if White people are really getting to you like this you have a simple solution at hand, Brother. You could self-deport your black ass back to mudda efrice. That way you would be happy and White Americans would be happy. There are plenty of African countries that would be glad to welcome you back, For example Somalia, South Africa, the Congo, Nigeria and so on. I mean, sure they're violent places with sky-high murder and rape figures, and sure the locals who live in then have average IQ's scores in the 60s and spend most their time fucking monkeys, shitting in their own mud huts and practicing cannibalism and witchcraft, And sure their government are all profoundly corrupt and have political leaders who are too stupid to know how to run a country so it provides basic services like education, healthcare, reliable Power potable water supply, and other essential infrastructure ,

Apart from these trivial little problems, you'd fit in just fine if you flew yourself back to Africa. Because this where your cultural roots are - you'd be back with your own people. All you'd have to do is put a bone through your nose, walk around with your cock wrapped in a bark sheath and swingin' low (to impress the local ladies), participate in your village's monthly, greased pig-fucking content and you'd be granted citizenship before you could say "Jack Robinson"
 
Note to self deport advice mf...as a black american, I have no country inwhich to self deport, yall saw to that 250 fuckin years ago. Secondly, I fought for this country, did you? And lastly, the day I take anything coming out the mouths of Trump nutt suckin rednecks, will be the day Trump self deports...ya dig?? So miss me on this fuckin novel you wrote, in other words, shove it.
 
Note to self deport advice mf...as a black american, I have no country inwhich to self deport, yall saw to that 250 fuckin years ago. Secondly, I fought for this country, did you? And lastly, the day I take anything coming out the mouths of Trump nutt suckin rednecks, will be the day Trump self deports...ya dig?? So miss me on this fuckin novel you wrote, in other words, shove it.
I'd ask if you are OK but we know you are not.
 
Well the are no takers connecting the Lord's day in the Bible to the 1st day of the week. Gee if you study the Sabbath in the Bible it is very evident that the Sabbath is very important in the Bible. If the Sabbath was done away with in favor of 1st day Lord's Day you would think they would be a huge deal made of it.

They made a huge deal out of circumcision in Acts when it was no longer necessary.
 
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Note to self deport advice mf...as a black american, I have no country inwhich to self deport, yall saw to that 250 fuckin years ago. Secondly, I fought for this country, did you? And lastly, the day I take anything coming out the mouths of Trump nutt suckin rednecks, will be the day Trump self deports...ya dig?? So miss me on this fuckin novel you wrote, in other words, shove it.
He is an aussie bogan , not American
 
I think organized religion will become more part of our past than have a prominent place in our future.

It's something we needed while we were developing as a species, but we're growing out of it. People will find their own spirituality & relationship w/ God without the need of guides or intermediaries.
 
Note to self deport advice mf...as a black american, I have no country inwhich to self deport, yall saw to that 250 fuckin years ago. Secondly, I fought for this country, did you? And lastly, the day I take anything coming out the mouths of Trump nutt suckin rednecks, will be the day Trump self deports...ya dig?? So miss me on this fuckin novel you wrote, in other words, shove it.
You could go back to Africa if you are so unhappy here. I believe in reparations. Give people 100K and an airline ticket to the country of their choice if they permanently renounce their US citizenship and agree to never return.
 
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I feel like shooting a republican of course. Isn't that normal?
 
I think organized religion will become more part of our past than have a prominent place in our future.

It's something we needed while we were developing as a species, but we're growing out of it. People will find their own spirituality & relationship w/ God without the need of guides or intermediaries.
Feeling schizoid, Barfly? Just how many people do you think you are?
 
You could go back to Africa if you are so unhappy here. I believe in reparations. Give people 100K and an airline ticket to the country of their choice if they permanently renounce their US citizenship and agree to never return.
Blacks are the ONLY ethnic group in this country, who truly does not have a homeland, we're the only ones. You wipe vomit eaters came from Europe, the Native Americans were already here, blacks people were STOLEN 250 years ago from the continents of Africa, never to be returned and 250 years later yall want us to all of a sudden claim Africa because blacks live there???? A continent mind you STRIPPED OF ITS GOLD, ITS DIAMONDS, ITS VALUABLE MINERALS AND ITS RICH SOIL TO THIS DAY IS BEING USED BY LARGE US COMPANIES TO GROW FOOD FOR OTHER NATIONS.. Now yall want to give it back???? Get the fuck outta here. Besides, the only thing left in Africa today is single black men, of which OLD SINGE WHITE WOMEN now find a prime vacation spot, just a FYI. And here's another thing, the only people UNHAPPY in the United States of America.....are you white motherfuckers that showed up on MY nations capital because yall was UNHAPPY WITH A FUCKIN ELECTION AND STILL PISSED ABOUT SHIT.
 
OK call me dense. Post it AGAIN .

Damo I have read EVERY verse in the Bible that references the 1st day of the week (there aren't that many) and in none of them is it called the Lord's day.
No. I am done with this subject. I am a Buddhist, it isn't my job for me to make sure you understand your religion correctly. Talk to your pastor, you are wrong. I posted why, gave you Bible verses specific to it. Told you exactly what to ask to get the correct information and whom to ask it from. I am not your pastor, you need to hear it from someone that you understand to be an authority on the subject because you are too stupid to read and find out for yourself.

Please, talk to your pastor. Have him explain the New Covenant to you. Here is a copy/paste of one of my previous posts explaining the differences between the Old and New Covenants... You should read it, then talk to your pastor, have him explain these things. If your pastor is worthy of the title you will be enlightened, if he is not you will believe you must go to church on Saturday. I do not particularly care. It means nothing to me when you go to church.

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The Sabbath is a command of the Old Covenant, one of the "cleansing" commandments. Christ fulfilled the law, therefore you are saved by Grace and not by Action. Christ covered this in many ways, one of them were when he stated that it is what comes out of the mouth of man that defiles him and not what goes into their mouth (Mark 7:14–23).

Each of the commandments, except the Sabbath, are reiterated in the New Testament and apply to the Christians. Here is a list of where to find them, how it is restated, you will notice that one is missing, we've been talking about it in this thread:

CommandmentNew Testament passage that reaffirms it for Christians
1. No other godsActs 14:15; 1 Cor 8:6; 1 Thess 1:9; 1 John 5:21 – “turn from idols to serve the living God”
2. No idols / imagesActs 15:20, 29 (Jerusalem Council decision for Gentile Christians); 1 Cor 10:14; 1 John 5:21
3. Do not take God’s name in vainJames 5:12 – “Above all, my brothers and sisters, do not swear… Let your ‘Yes’ be yes…” (direct echo of the commandment)
5. Honor father and motherEphesians 6:1–3 – “Children, obey your parents in the Lord… ‘Honor your father and mother’ (this is the first commandment with a promise)…” Paul quotes Exodus 20:12 directly and applies it to Gentile Christians in Ephesus.
6. You shall not murderRomans 13:9; Galatians 5:21; James 2:11; 1 Peter 4:15; Revelation 21:8
7. You shall not commit adulteryRomans 13:9; 1 Corinthians 6:9–10; Hebrews 13:4; James 2:11
8. You shall not stealRomans 13:9; Ephesians 4:28; 1 Corinthians 6:10
9. You shall not bear false witnessRomans 13:9; Ephesians 4:25; Colossians 3:9
10. You shall not covetRomans 7:7 (Paul: “I would not have known what coveting really was if the law had not said, ‘You shall not covet’”); Romans 13:9; Ephesians 5:3

The one you find missing is the Sabbath, that one was counted as fulfilled. Christ stated he came to fulfill the law, not to replace it... this became the "New Covenant", Christ teaches that the ones that "cleanse" you so you can earn your way to paradise no longer apply, you have been saved through grace, so it is now what comes out of your mouth rather than what goes in that matters (why Christians are not forced to eat kosher), for instance...

So, The Sabbath Day commandment is like eating Kosher (Christ talks about how it is what comes out of your mouth, meaning what you say or think, that defiles you, not what you put into your mouth) and is fulfilled in what becomes the New Covenant.

So when Christians say “Jesus fulfilled the Law, He did not abolish it,” they mean:
  • The moral demands of the Law (including nine of the Ten Commandments) are still in force and are now obeyed out of love and by the power of the Holy Spirit, but not to earn salvation.
  • The ceremonial and civil parts (including the literal seventh-day Sabbath regulation) are fulfilled in Christ and no longer bind Christians in the same way.
That is why the New Testament can quote the Ten Commandments as still authoritative for believers, yet also say we are “not under law but under grace” (Romans 6:14–15) and that the Sabbath regulation was “only a shadow of what was to come; the reality is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16–17).

Colossians 2:16-17, referenced in the paragraph above, states that: believers should not be judged for their observance or non-observance of food laws, religious festivals, or the Sabbath, as these are merely shadows pointing to the reality found in Jesus Christ. The core message is that the "substance" or "reality" is Christ, and those practices were a shadow of what was to come, but their fulfillment is now in Him.

And Christ rising on the 1st Day of the week became "the lord's day" (referenced in Revelations 1:10, I verified, it is also referenced in English... not just the Greek original texts) as well as coming back among the Apostles on the 1st day, began a new day of worship, the Christians began meeting on Sunday.

I still maintain my belief that the Sabbath Day was never marked by Adam and they didn't magically know which day is the actual 7th... it was followed by the remembrance and that they took their "7th day" off.

However, Christians began meeting on Sundays when Jesus was still among the faithful before he was "taken up"... I think you need to read that book of yours a bit better.
 
OK call me dense. Post it AGAIN .

Damo I have read EVERY verse in the Bible that references the 1st day of the week (there aren't that many) and in none of them is it called the Lord's day.
TLDR version of my last post:

Colossians 2:16-17 states that believers should not be judged for their observance or non-observance of food laws, religious festivals, or the Sabbath, as these are merely shadows pointing to the reality found in Jesus Christ. The core message is that the "substance" or "reality" is Christ, and those practices were a shadow of what was to come, but their fulfillment is now in Him.
 
Good question but $100,000 is like $10,000,000 to some fools.
Liberia would be a perfect place for them to move to. It was established by American slaves the official language is English. It is a majority Black country. they could live like Kings and Queens there for long enough to establish themselves.
TLDR version of my last post:

Colossians 2:16-17 states that believers should not be judged for their observance or non-observance of food laws, religious festivals, or the Sabbath, as these are merely shadows pointing to the reality found in Jesus Christ. The core message is that the "substance" or "reality" is Christ, and those practices were a shadow of what was to come, but their fulfillment is now in Him.
I somehow missed this.
Let's take a closer look at Colossaians.

Colosions 2 because this seems to be relevant.

Col 2:16

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
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Col 2:17
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


Col 2:20

Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

Clearly Colossians is speaking about Ceremonial law. I think we both can agree on that.


The question is are Cerimonial festivals also called Sabbaths. This was given to the Children of Israel in the Sinai HUNDREDS of years after MAN was first given the 7th day Sabbath in the Garden of Eden.

Lev 16:29

And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you:
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Lev 16:30
For on that day shall the priest make an atonement for you, to cleanse you, that ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD.

Lev 16:31
It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls

Lev 23:39
Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.

We know that the feast days were called Sabbaths and foreshadowed the plan of salvation in symbolic terms and they were part of the Ceremonial law that was given in the Sinai. They were fulfilled by the advent of Christ. The type had met the anti-type so they we no longer needed because Christ fulfilled them.

AGAIN the seventh day Sabbath was given to MAN hundreds of years before the first Jew and even before MAN had sinned and before there was even a need for salvation. The purpose of the 7th day Sabbath is to focus on the God who created us.

So the 7th day Sabbath looks backwards to Creation and the temporary feast day Sabbaths held on various different days of the week were shadows of thing to come (Christ) and were fulfilled by Christ.

Clearly Paul was talking about Feast days that were a Shadow of things to come and not the 7th day Sabbath given to Man at Creation.

Col 2:16

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
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Col 2:17
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
 
TLDR version of my last post:

Colossians 2:16-17 states that believers should not be judged for their observance or non-observance of food laws, religious festivals, or the Sabbath, as these are merely shadows pointing to the reality found in Jesus Christ. The core message is that the "substance" or "reality" is Christ, and those practices were a shadow of what was to come, but their fulfillment is now in Him.
Sorry I merged a post to anynmoose with your's so I reposted yours because time expired before I caught it.

I somehow missed this.
Let's take a closer look at Colossaians.

Colosions 2 because this seems to be relevant.

Col 2:16

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
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Col 2:17
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


Col 2:20

Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

Clearly Colossians is speaking about Ceremonial law. I think we both can agree on that.


The question is are Cerimonial festivals also called Sabbaths. This was given to the Children of Israel in the Sinai HUNDREDS of years after MAN was first given the 7th day Sabbath in the Garden of Eden.

Lev 16:29

And this shall be a statute for ever unto you: that in the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, ye shall afflict your souls, and do no work at all, whether it be one of your own country, or a stranger that sojourneth among you:
Tools
Lev 16:30
For on that day shall the priest make an atonement for you, to cleanse you, that ye may be clean from all your sins before the LORD.

Lev 16:31
It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls

Lev 23:39
Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day shall be a sabbath.

We know that the feast days were called Sabbaths and foreshadowed the plan of salvation in symbolic terms and they were part of the Ceremonial law that was given in the Sinai. They were fulfilled by the advent of Christ. The type had met the anti-type so they we no longer needed because Christ fulfilled them.

AGAIN the seventh day Sabbath was given to MAN hundreds of years before the first Jew and even before MAN had sinned and before there was even a need for salvation. The purpose of the 7th day Sabbath is to focus on the God who created us.

So the 7th day Sabbath looks backwards to Creation and the temporary feast day Sabbaths held on various different days of the week were shadows of thing to come (Christ) and were fulfilled by Christ.

Clearly Paul was talking about Feast days that were a Shadow of things to come and not the 7th day Sabbath given to Man at Creation.

Col 2:16

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Tools
Col 2:17
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
 
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