The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences

[Cypress]

you copy-paste!!

I wouldn't have to present independent corroborating sources if you would just get used to taking my comments as reasonably accurate.

The permutation formula calculates a number of possibilities!!

That's a type prediction dummy. The fact you don't want it to be a prediction because it would harm your ego is irrelevant.

Probability mathematics deals with predictions. Not wild ass random guesses.

"Probability is a core tool for making predictions, quantifying the likelihood of future events"​

- AI summary​

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I can predict the exact probability you will roll snake eyes on a fair pair of dice. And if you rolled that pair of dice ten thousand times, my probability prediction would be proven to be extremely accurate.

The Schroedinger equation offers very precise predictions of how the quantum wave function evolves through time, but only represents a probability distribution at the level of measurement.

 

[Cypress]

^^^
Sybil, the expert on everything.

After frantic Googling.

 

[Cypress]

"Probability is a core tool for making predictions, quantifying the likelihood of future events"

- AI summary​

 

[IBDaMann]

I wouldn't have to present independent corroborating sources if you would just get used to taking my comments as reasonably accurate.

You present the opinions of others as though they somehow support an error that you made. You like to wander into discussions on math, science and philosophy without any organic understanding, weilding only the flawed opinions you copy-pasted from the internet.

You have to know that you are going to run into issues whenever you encounter someone with an organic understanding of the subject matter who immediately recognizes every error you post.

That's a type prediction dummy.

Nope, and it is rather stupid for you to make that assertion. Stupid. The number of possibilities helps determine the probability of any single possibility, but it does nothing to predict which possibility will occur.

Math can tell you that when I roll my 6-sided die,
1. there is a one-in-six chance that the 1 will be rolled
2. there is a one-in-six chance that the 2 will be rolled
3. there is a one-in-six chance that the 3 will be rolled
4. there is a one-in-six chance that the 4 will be rolled
5. there is a one-in-six chance that the 5 will be rolled
6. there is a one-in-six chance that the 6 will be rolled

... so given all this, what does the math predict that I will roll?

The fact you don't want it to be a prediction because it would harm your ego is irrelevant.

There is no "wanting" involved, except for your "wanting" of a non-science mathematical calculation to be a prediction. You are objectively in error.

Probability mathematics deals with predictions.

Nope. This is an extremely stupid comment, one that reflects a grim lack of education.

Probability math deals in probabilities, not predictions. Science is what predicts nature.

I can predict the exact probability

Nope. You calculate a probability; you do not somehow predict it.

you will roll snake eyes on a fair pair of dice.

You cannot predict when I will roll snake eyes.

And if you rolled that pair of dice ten thousand times, my probability prediction would be proven to be extremely accurate.

Wait, what do you think you mean by what you just wrote? If I were to roll a pair of dice 10,000 times, your lack of prediction wouldn't be either accurate or inaccurate.

The Schroedinger equation offers very precise predictions

You have no idea what anything in quantum mechanics means. AI gets it wrong as well, and since you can only copy-paste from erroneous sources, it's not going to do any good for you to babble some more.

of how the quantum wave function evolves through time,

Nope. You don't understand what the wave function even is.

but only represents a probability distribution at the level of measurement.

Again, just for laughs, what do you think you mean by this statement?

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

The opinions of Nobel prize-winning physicists about the universe are generally worth considering.

Explain in your own words exactly why it should be that the past, present, and future state, organization, and structure of the universe should so perfectly conform to and be represented in the precision of human-invented maths.

Throwing your hands up in the air and blurting out "that's just the way it is!" is not an intellectually or philosophically adequate answer.

here you are again, trying to make Physicists into religious authorities.

no.

that's dumb and you're gay/

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

cypress is the dumbest person on the forum but thinks he's smart.

he's a dumb trick pony.

 

[Cypress]

Why did you post the permutation formula as an example of math with predictive powers?!!!

"Probability is an incredibly important part of statistics. We can use probability to help us make decisions under uncertainty and make predictions."

--> University of Illinois​

"Probability is a core tool for making predictions, quantifying the likelihood of future events"

--> AI summary​

Introduction to Probability, STATISTICS 110:
What you'll learn:
How to think about uncertainty and randomness
How to make good predictions

--> Harvard University​

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"The permutation formula is a mathematical tool used in combinatorics to predict the total number of unique ordered arrangements (permutations) that can be formed by selecting a certain number of items from a larger set."

--> AI summary​

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https://pll.harvard.edu/course/introduction-probability​

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https://discovery.cs.illinois.edu/learn/Prediction-and-Probability/​

 

[Cypress]

You cannot predict when I will roll snake eyes!!!

The probability you will roll snake eyes on a pair of fair dice is exactly 1/36, or about 2.8 percent. That's an extremely accurate prediction of probability.

 

[IBDaMann]

here you are again, trying to make Physicists into religious authorities. no. that's dumb and you're gay/

It's even worse. He's trying to pass mathematics off as voodoo science, where he points to some formula or equation and pretends to tell you what it really means.

 

[IBDaMann]

"Probability is an incredibly important part of statistics. We can use probability to help us make decisions under uncertainty and make predictions."

--> University of Illinois​

"Probability is a core tool for making predictions, quantifying the likelihood of future events"

--> AI summary​

Introduction to Probability, STATISTICS 110:
What you'll learn:
How to think about uncertainty and randomness
How to make good predictions

--> Harvard University​

​

"The permutation formula is a mathematical tool used in combinatorics to predict the total number of unique ordered arrangements (permutations) that can be formed by selecting a certain number of items from a larger set."

--> AI summary​

​

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https://pll.harvard.edu/course/introduction-probability​

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https://discovery.cs.illinois.edu/learn/Prediction-and-Probability/​

Like I said, all you have is your ability to copy-paste the errors of others.

You had only one job, i.e. use math to predict what I will roll on a fair six-sided die. You have yet to do so.

 

[IBDaMann]

The probability you will roll snake eyes on a pair of fair dice is exactly 1/36, or about 2.8 percent. That's an extremely accurate prediction of probability.

That is the probability of rolling snake eyes, not a prediction of when I will be rolling snake eyes.

 

[Cypress]

I said, all you have is your ability to copy-paste!

Probability mathematics is a type of prediction.

I told you that.

Then in post #67 Harvard University told you that,
University of Illinois told you that, and
AI told you that.

I wouldn't have to copy-paste independent corroborating sources if your ego would just let you accept the statements I made were reasonably accurate from the start.

 

[Margot]

Anything is possible. The question always becomes what is most reasonable. There could be a billion quadrillion number of universes, and we just happen to be in the one that is perfectly organized and finely tuned for the existence and persistence of complex atomic matter.

At the end of the day, a mathematically rational, lawfully organized, and finely tuned cosmos does need an explanation.

Intelligent design!

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

There is no doubt the Universe is logical. The controversy, IMO, comes in when deciding if it was made that way or, in an infinite number of multiverses, ours was fortunate to have had all the correct components. After all, an illogical universe would just be a hot ball of gas or less.

it's not controversial.

you two idiots are the only keeping this stupid shit alive.

the truth of this doesn't actually matter.

it only matters if you're trying to do ideological ingrouping/outgrouping to create conflict and religous wars.

it's evil and you suck donkey dicks.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Probability mathematics is a type of prediction.

I told you that.

Then in post #67 Harvard University told you that,
University of Illinois told you that, and
AI told you that.

I wouldn't have to copy-paste independent corroborating sources if your ego would just let you accept the statements I made were reasonably accurate from the start.

you're fucking dumb.

 

[Cypress]

That is the probability of rolling snake eyes!

That is a prediction of probability, and it is very precise.

Unless you make decisions in life randomly without data and information, almost every decision you make is based on a prediction or estimate of probability.

I told you mathematical probability was type of prediction.

Then in post #67, Harvard University told you probability was a type of prediction;

then University of Illinois told you probability was a type of prediction; and then

AI told you probability was a type of prediction.

 

[Cypress]

you two idiots are the only keeping this stupid shit alive!

You and your boyfriend IBDumbass have added far more posts to this thread than Dutch Uncle did.

the truth of this doesn't actually matter!!!

That's not a very scientific attitude. Nobody would bother doing science if they didn't think the truth mattered, and that the universe was pregnant with mystery and unanswered questions.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

You and your boyfriend IBDumbass have added far more posts to this thread than Dutch Uncle did.

That's not a very scientific attitude. Nobody would bother doing science if they didn't think the truth mattered, and that the universe was pregnant with mystery and unanswered questions.

it takes 4 to tag team butt rape for pleasure.

 

[Cypress]

it takes 4 to tag team butt rape for pleasure.

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[Freddy Figbottom]

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