Is trump intentionally trying to start another civil war in America?

Great. So tell me what the fuck business ICE is doing? They're not trained to investigate white collar crime.

ICE is in MN the same reason They're in all blue cities. To harass and incite so the trump thugs can declare it an "insurrection " and invoke the act.
The easiest way to avoid that is to never send out folks to harass and obstruct. If nobody shows up to make it look like insurrection, then no insurrection can be demonstrably declared. If nobody was there to "incite" there could be no "insurrection". Instead it seems to those looking from the outside you pay people to instigate. Are you trying to help Trump declare an "insurrection"?
 
The easiest way to avoid that is to never send out folks to harass and obstruct. If nobody shows up to make it look like insurrection, then no insurrection can be demonstrably declared. If nobody was there to "incite" there could be no "insurrection". Instead it seems to those looking from the outside you pay people to instigate. Are you trying to help Trump declare an "insurrection"?
Yeah. Like how dare people exercise their 1st Amendment rights? "Bitch got what she deserved" which is exactly what The ICE goon said after he murdered.

No Damo. We will not sit down and shut up.

<smh>
 
Yeah. Like how dare people exercise their 1st Amendment rights? "Bitch got what she deserved" which is exactly what The ICE goon said after he murdered.

No Damo. We will not sit down and shut up.

<smh>
You were the one that said "Trump is trying to make it look like"... Don't do what he wants if you don't want him to be able to do such a thing. It's very simple. If you do not want Trump to be able to "call it an insurrection" then do not act the way you say he wants you to act.

Why are you actively helping Trump? If you don't want to help Trump, then stop letting Trump manipulate you.
 
The oligarchs who run the place certainly are....on the road towards your enslavement.

How much Trump is in charge of anything is a matter of great debate for many of us.
 
You were the one that said "Trump is trying to make it look like"... Don't do what he wants if you don't want him to be able to do such a thing. It's very simple. If you do not want Trump to be able to "call it an insurrection" then do not act the way you say he wants you to act.

Why are you actively helping Trump? If you don't want to help Trump, then stop letting Trump manipulate you.
Yah sure dude.
 
Do you think the leftists who are being manipulated are an inevitability? In the word according to Lurch, Trump is so good at manipulation that you cannot stop helping him?
No one is being manipulated except for you. You should learn to think for yourself.
 
“people’s paramilitary force,” funny, what the hell is a “people paramilitary force?” Did Trump start another branch in the military? Who commands this “people paramilitary force? Who funds it? Last people’s army was the North Vietnam army during the Vietnam War

Maybe it's a combination of white supremacist militias, the Proud Boys, the KKK, the Neonazis, the Oathkeepers?
True but you have the troops, I can see soldiers killing their friends and family for Trump doing a civil war?!! I wouldn't and I was a soldier too?!!

Not their own families and friends which is why they're deployed elsewhere where shooting someone else's family isn't as difficult.
 
No one is being manipulated except for you. You should learn to think for yourself.
Says the guy that told us how the protestors are being manipulated so that Trump can "declare" an insurrection. A bit of introspection is in order.

Why do you think the manipulation of these people is inevitable? Why do you support Trump's effort?
 
I'm beginning to think that trump, like his ignorant anti-American MAGA cult trash followers, wants to start another civil war in this country.

And soon.

The right-wing gun sucking goofball trash have been talking about going to war with the left for years now.

Doomsday preppers and paramilitary militia goons along with neo-Nazis and skinheads, are all right-wing ideologues who love to rant about doing away with the left in general and minorities in particular.

Now they've got in trump, an unhinged leader who is reckless and mentally unstable enough to intentionally create the conditions conducive to giving them the green light and setting them off.

"Stand back and stand by".

His association with groups like The Proud Boys and The Oath Keepers etc, is well known and with enough support from the MAGA contingent in Congress, he could potentially make it happen.

I would not be surprised if, before the end of his term, there are gun battles and open warfare on the streets of US cities. Especially those with Democrat leadership and large Democrat voting numbers.

Hell, it's possible we might even see it this year in the run up to the mid terms.

We've already seen the lengths to which trump will go and the depths to which he'll stoop, to cement his grip on power.

All this ICE activity we're currently seeing may just be a warm up to what could be coming.

They are playing to that long recessed desire, of many magat racists to get a redo of the civil war and put things back as they were before losing, yes.

But do those in gov't actually want or think this will lead to civil war? No.

It is more insidious than that.

This is part of a decades long plan, by a hard core Federalist Society group to win the next civil war in the courts and how they have packed the courts for decades to achieve it.

The steps needed are:

- push POTUS powers to the extreme neutering and reducing Congress ability to check him.

- have the supreme court seize powers belonging to Congress and write laws, like POTUS immunity, by fiat such as POTUS immunity, which would require a Constitutional amendment for COngress and the States to create that power. You want citizens not questioning how the SC just basically added to the Constitution when they have no such power.

- allow any level of extreme Gerrymandering such that no matter the number of 'left' votes they cannot win elections

- SC to allow for more POTUS (Federal) intrusion into Elections by expanding their role, and diminishing the power of the States.

Why?

Because while the GOP was on a fairly clear path to future election dominance, the path was to increase the big tent to focus on more Latino's and black voters (all PoC), with a 'traditional values, law and order model, and to put them increasingly in positions of power. There was already talk of someone like Byron Donalds being the person who could likely win for them in the future.

To the hard core racists on the right that big tent compromise was never going to be acceptable to them. Instead they want to tear apart the country, shred the constitution and remake things as i say above where basically you can lock in control of POTUS and elections, with solely a Supreme Court (captured) to check him.
 
Two droolers ☝🏼 who are chomping at the bit to get the OK from trump to get out and start baggin' 'em some lib'ruls.
Yup. Not sure what has happened in the lives of Yakuda and Stone to make them so hateful and intolerant of others, but it must have been something horrible. For Trump, it is understandable. He was raised by a sad, hateful, racist who apparently was obsessed by money. I honestly pity him...he never really had a chance to grow up, let alone grow up sane and reasonable.

I cannot help but wonder what set the other two...and one or two others here...on their roads to a miserable life.
 
I'm beginning to think that trump, like his ignorant anti-American MAGA cult trash followers, wants to start another civil war in this country.

And soon.

The right-wing gun sucking goofball trash have been talking about going to war with the left for years now.

Doomsday preppers and paramilitary militia goons along with neo-Nazis and skinheads, are all right-wing ideologues who love to rant about doing away with the left in general and minorities in particular.

Now they've got in trump, an unhinged leader who is reckless and mentally unstable enough to intentionally create the conditions conducive to giving them the green light and setting them off.

"Stand back and stand by".

His association with groups like The Proud Boys and The Oath Keepers etc, is well known and with enough support from the MAGA contingent in Congress, he could potentially make it happen.

I would not be surprised if, before the end of his term, there are gun battles and open warfare on the streets of US cities. Especially those with Democrat leadership and large Democrat voting numbers.

Hell, it's possible we might even see it this year in the run up to the mid terms.

We've already seen the lengths to which trump will go and the depths to which he'll stoop, to cement his grip on power.

All this ICE activity we're currently seeing may just be a warm up to what could be coming.
Seems like it's you fucking losers itching for your sudden demise AKA a civil war. A whole grip of feckless noisy puny chested morons.
 
Trump and the Republicans aren't tTrump and the Republicans aren't the ones backing criminal, illegal, aliens, nor the ones that are enraged and violently protesting against law enforcement, particularly ICE. That would be the Democrats and their supporters.
Aha...another guy I wonder about and had in mind when I submitted my last comment.
 
The easiest way to avoid that is to never send out folks to harass and obstruct. If nobody shows up to make it look like insurrection, then no insurrection can be demonstrably declared. If nobody was there to "incite" there could be no "insurrection". Instead it seems to those looking from the outside you pay people to instigate. Are you trying to help Trump declare an "insurrection"?

While what you say is true and can be said of ANYTHING and EVERYTHING the government might do to trigger protest, your solution, if every citizen was to follow your advice due to big government threat, would mean the end of one of the most fundamental and biggest rights America has enjoyed that has defined it differently from most other countries.

What you are saying is the 'end of citizen protest against things they perceive as unjust by big government' because as you say, 'that is how you avoid State violence'.

Do you recognize that?

(and you can say you do and you just do not care about the right to protest without violence from the State happening to you)
 
Yeah. Like how dare people exercise their 1st Amendment rights? "Bitch got what she deserved" which is exactly what The ICE goon said after he murdered.

No Damo. We will not sit down and shut up.

<smh>
Yes the bitch did. Her and her dyke companion it appears to me were trying to make a viral you tube video with the other one outside the car filming. They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

Having said that was the shooting "justified". 100% Was it necessary? 100% no. But when you poke the bear you take your chances. Don't feel sorry for this cunt in the least. Hopefully other wannabe idiots will take notice that ICE ain't fucking around and this type of thing won't happen again as they do their job.
 
While what you say is true and can be said of ANYTHING and EVERYTHING the government might do to trigger protest, your solution, if every citizen was to follow your advice due to big government threat, would mean the end of one of the most fundamental and biggest rights America has enjoyed that has defined it differently from most other countries.

What you are saying is the 'end of citizen protest against things they perceive as unjust by big government' because as you say, 'that is how you avoid State violence'.

Do you recognize that?

(and you can say you do and you just do not care about the right to protest without violence from the State happening to you)
I was not the one that said that this was a problem.

You folks tell me that the man is an idiot, then tell me his master plan is to manipulate you and yours into doing something he can "declare an insurrection" so your plan is to let him?

Genius.

What I am saying is: If you know someone is manipulating people into a specific action so they can do something terrible, the best way to ensure that terrible thing does not happen is to not fall for the manipulation.
 
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