The Tea Party Did the Right Thing

Williams used "satire" to bring to light the hypocrisy of the NAACP. Unfortunately factions within the TEA party chose to embrace the false accusations of racism and ask that he be fired...they were wrong to do so.

Race is not the purview of liberals, persons of color, and blacks only. White men and women of conservative world views get to talk about it too...and THAT is what William's did. He is first and foremost a radio personality who used satire...Can anyone else see the double standard in play here? Only the left wing personalities get to use satire to make their points? Fucked up- totally fucked up
Dr. Williams? Which Williams is this?
 
Williams used "satire" to bring to light the hypocrisy of the NAACP. Unfortunately factions within the TEA party chose to embrace the false accusations of racism and ask that he be fired...they were wrong to do so.

Race is not the purview of liberals, persons of color, and blacks only. White men and women of conservative world views get to talk about it too...and THAT is what William's did. He is first and foremost a radio personality who used satire...Can anyone else see the double standard in play here? Only the left wing personalities get to use satire to make their points? Fucked up- totally fucked up


Hypocrisy!


Mark it, Dude.
 
Which changes nothing about the accuracy of my posts. If they actually create a political party, make it official, create central committees, etc. set up rules on who can call themselves part of the "TEA Party", and that's a pretty big "IF"...

IF all of that takes place then calling it "THE TEA Party" would make some sense. However, it isn't a political party it is a protest movement that calls itself after a historical event that we all learned about in Elementary School. There is no central authority, the Northern CO TEA Party Organization is separate from the Southern CO Organization is separate from the Jefferson County Organization, is separate from the Arvada Organization is separate from the Ouray Organization, and so on...

No central authority has any bearing on what any of the separate groups do.

THat is what it was set up to look like, in reality it is a shell established by the Republican party because of the damage that was caused to the brand by the Bush Administration.

Its like when Baptists establish "non-demonational" churches because they found out that younger people were turned off by the name "Baptist". Same old shit, different name.
 
THat is what it was set up to look like, in reality it is a shell established by the Republican party because of the damage that was caused to the brand by the Bush Administration.

Its like when Baptists establish "non-demonational" churches because they found out that younger people were turned off by the name "Baptist". Same old shit, different name.
Conjecture based in projecting. Do you remember when they said they were "professional" protesters? Then links suddenly were available actually showing that the people hiring people to protest weren't right-wing... Do you remember it?

Your Honor I Move to dismiss, based on the lack of anything other than conjecture and baseless "hearsay" evidence against my client.
 
Who are "they"? One of the groups had this guy speak and now all of them are "tainted" according to Winterborn? Then you got others who claim to understand that there is no central "party" to speak of, no "TEA Party" leader, no "central committees" for this movement, yet still say, "This is what convinced me that they were bad too!"


This should make you happy. This admission of WB's now gives tacit approval to paint with said broad brush when someone from the Looney Left does/says something under the mantle of the Democrats and proclaim ALL democrats are alike.

This is cause for celebration. After all; WB has said it so. :clink:
 
Conjecture based in projecting. Do you remember when they said they were "professional" protesters? Then links suddenly were available actually showing that the people hiring people to protest weren't right-wing... Do you remember it?

No, I do not know what you are talking about.

I am sure there are genuine elements of the Tea Party, but they should change there name and call themselves something else. The lemings who are following the TEA party movement are being used by the Republican party, pretending to be something different than it is.

Pretending they are something different than the Bush Administration.
 
Ehhh, you're just saying that cause on the Climate Science debate he's beat you like a red headed step child.

LMAO.... really... so to you he did that when...

1) he refused to look at the PEER reviewed paper and tried dismissing it by saying 'that university is laughable' or was it when he stated 'not enough scientists have heard of this guy'? Which was it that made you think 'wow, Cypress really refuted that paper'?

2) or was it when he refused to answer simple questions like 'WHO was on the review panels', 'WHO initiated the reviews', 'Why do you say the debate is over when your own unimpeachable source says the debate is not over'? Was it one of those that made you think that Cypress somehow gave me a beating?

As I stated, Cypress is a parrot. He is incapable of discussion. He posts his government/government funded links and proclaims the debate is over.... like a good little parrot.
 
No, I do not know what you are talking about.

I am sure there are genuine elements of the Tea Party, but they should change there name and call themselves something else. The lemings who are following the TEA party movement are being used by the Republican party, pretending to be something different than it is.

Pretending they are something different than the Bush Administration.
Just a repeat of the same conjecture. You don't even provide circumstantial evidence, let alone any solid evidence. You could at least provide some hearsay, but instead you just use the argument by repetition fallacy. The reality is there is no "The" TEA Party... because there is no political party that is called that. One could be made, but at this moment doesn't exist in any way shape or form.
 
No, I do not know what you are talking about.

I am sure there are genuine elements of the Tea Party, but they should change there name and call themselves something else. The lemings who are following the TEA party movement are being used by the Republican party, pretending to be something different than it is.

Pretending they are something different than the Bush Administration.

actually, i highly doubt many tea party folks would approve of bush's spending
 
Dr. Williams? Which Williams is this?

Mark William's is the raido host who was the speaker for the TEA Party Express. He wrote a satirical response about the NAACP's accusation of racism. He attempted to show hypocrisy...he failed to do so and instead gave fodder to the critics, but it was still his right to try.

His stereotypical portrayal was in bad taste, but does not "prove" racism in the TEA party. My point is that the TEA party really is a loose and non conforming group of individuals...it is not a national organization per se. It has no single representative structure...but many. To create this idea that the ranks should/can be policed is absurd at this point.

NOTE: he, William's, had already tendered his resignation at the end of June before writing his satire.
 
Just a repeat of the same conjecture. You don't even provide circumstantial evidence, let alone any solid evidence. You could at least provide some hearsay, but instead you just use the argument by repetition fallacy. The reality is there is no "The" TEA Party... because there is no political party that is called that. One could be made, but at this moment doesn't exist in any way shape or form.

It is a less solidified group than the Republicans or Democrats, but the "brand" was whiped together by Republican stragitists who knew what they were doing. They may have lost some measure of control in some areas, but they will get it back. Its akin to the way Disney opened Touchtone pictures for movies that had R ratings.
 
Who are "they"? One of the groups had this guy speak and now all of them are "tainted" according to Winterborn? Then you got others who claim to understand that there is no central "party" to speak of, no "TEA Party" leader, no "central committees" for this movement, yet still say, "This is what convinced me that they were bad too!"

Roy Moore spoke at a Tea Party event in TN, another event in AL, and (I believe) another event in GA. So, while there may be no central "they", Moore is being welcomed by several of the groups.

And the fact that none of the separate Tea Party entities (that I have seen) condemned Moore as anti- US Constitution and anti-freedom, speaks on some level.
 
actually, i highly doubt many tea party folks would approve of bush's spending

Exactly, but they voted for him, and this is an effort to keep them in the fold for the next Republican canidate who will also be a big spender.
 
He does, it's just not "substance" that you (or Yurt) likes.

He draws his own conclusions, and I don't necessarily agree with those, but he does post facts to back up his conclusions. In those threads, I generally don't see a lot of refutation from you guys - just a lot of insults.

give me a break.... he does not draw any of his own conclusions... hence every time someone asks him a question he plays it off like the question is somehow not legitimate.

he gets insulted because like the cowardly little parrot that he is, he continually posts threads on the subject and then runs from any and all questions that might detract from his religious beliefs. Anytime someone posts something that refutes what he is saying he either:

1) ignores it completely
2) tries to dismiss it as 'right wing'
3) Calls a University climatology department 'laughable'
4) states the scientist 'isn't known by a large enough group of other scientists'

He asks for peer reviewed papers and upon receiving one he:

1) Refuses to read it
2) tries desperately to change the topic by posting yet another link to his beloved masters websites.

If you think he is willing to discuss the topic and actually input his OWN thoughts...

Ask him....

1) Why HE proclaims the debate is over when Jones says it is not?

2) Who made up the review boards that supposedly exonerated East Anglia and Mann at Penn State?

3) Why if Man is the primary cause of global warming did Jones state there has been no significant warming in the past 15 years?

4) Why he doesn't hold the same standards to each NAS he touts that he does to the material that he asks opponents to provide?

Or you could ask him to address the FACTS that Good Luck pointed out to him that he also tries desperately to ignore.

simple questions... ones that he should easily be able to answer if he is truly drawing his own conclusions
 
Exactly, but they voted for him, and this is an effort to keep them in the fold for the next Republican canidate who will also be a big spender.
how do you make this argument in light of a Democrat who spent more in one year than Bush did in eight?.....
 
They just didn't take to the streets about it. Hypocrites!



I'm en fuego!

pssssssssssssst....the bulk of the spending came at the end of his term and he was no longer running for office....most members of the tea party call out BOTH repubs and dems for spending....

pretty simple stuff, but nigel as usual is talking out his ass
 
Roy Moore spoke at a Tea Party event in TN, another event in AL, and (I believe) another event in GA. So, while there may be no central "they", Moore is being welcomed by several of the groups.

And the fact that none of the separate Tea Party entities (that I have seen) condemned Moore as anti- US Constitution and anti-freedom, speaks on some level.

to be clear... what anti-US Constitution and anti-freedom items are you referring to?

Is there something besides his not wanting to remove the ten commandments?
 
This should make you happy. This admission of WB's now gives tacit approval to paint with said broad brush when someone from the Looney Left does/says something under the mantle of the Democrats and proclaim ALL democrats are alike.

This is cause for celebration. After all; WB has said it so. :clink:

Talk about taking a point and going crazy with it.

Besides, hasn't the term "libtard" been used to paint a broad stroke over everything even remotely connected with any liberal cause?

If my statement gave "tacit approval", it was an unnecessary approval because it was being done long before I made the comment.
 
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