ICE killed another one.

christiefan915 said:
If you don't believe that DHS weaseled to make themselves look like the victim, you're naive.
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If you automatically blame DHS, which you do, then you are a narrow-minded bigot of sorts. You desperately want the narrative to be DHS and ICE are jack booted thugs under the direct command of Trump. Yet, when Obama and Biden were in office, you were fine with them.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
If you read the report by DHS, this particular arrestee:

Refused medical treatment early in the day and became violent.
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ROFLMAO. I guess when you are in a cult you just make shit up and then believe it to be true. Where does it say he refused medical treatment in the report you linked to. He was in line for medication. Pull your head out of your ass T.A. Becoming disruptive when in line for medication is NOT refusing medical treatment.
T. A. Gardner said:
Refused to return to his housing unit and was put in segregation for this and being violent.
Upon the guards finding him non-responsive they started CPR which likely accounts for the chest and neck injuries sustained. It's pretty easy for someone strong doing CPR to crack ribs or crush in the chest of someone they are doing it on unintentionally.
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CPR is not performed on the neck. Nor does CPR cause a person to die from asphyxiation. CPR is not constant pressure that results in lack of oxygen. Yes, CPR can cause bruising or even crack ribs if done too hard. But that is quite different from asphyxiation which requires blocking the air passage in some way.

the preliminary cause of death as asphyxia due to neck and chest compression,” which means Lunas Campos did not get enough oxygen because of pressure on his neck and chest. Pending the results of a toxicology report,
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
ROFLMAO. I guess when you are in a cult you just make shit up and then believe it to be true. Where does it say he refused medical treatment in the report you linked to. He was in line for medication. Pull your head out of your ass T.A.
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Earlier that day, Lunas became disruptive while in line for medication and refused to return to his assigned dorm.
Poor Richard Saunders said:
CPR is not performed on the neck. Nor does CPR cause a person to die from asphyxiation. CPR is not constant pressure that results in lack of oxygen. Yes, CPR can cause bruising or even crack ribs if done too hard. But that is quite different from asphyxiation which requires blocking the air passage in some way.
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"Head tilt?" I guess you never had to qualify for CPR. I had to for years and years. I've even done it for real on someone one time.
Poor Richard Saunders said:
the preliminary cause of death as asphyxia due to neck and chest compression,” which means Lunas Campos did not get enough oxygen because of pressure on his neck and chest. Pending the results of a toxicology report,
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Or, he was already dead and the ICE officers were doing CPR on a corpse.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Earlier that day, Lunas became disruptive while in line for medication and refused to return to his assigned dorm.
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You do like to prove you are an idiot. Where in that statement does it say he refused medical attention? Becoming disruptive in line is not refusing medical treatment. Not returning to his dorm is not refusing medical treatment. If anything can be implied from that statement it would be that ICE by attempting to return him to his dorm were denying him medication but even that is a stretch. There is nothing there to show he refused medical attention.
T. A. Gardner said:
"Head tilt?" I guess you never had to qualify for CPR. I had to for years and years. I've even done it for real on someone one time.
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Tilting one's head causes them to not be able to breath? Are you sure you qualified for CPR? The head tilt is to make sure they can breath.
T. A. Gardner said:
Or, he was already dead and the ICE officers were doing CPR on a corpse.
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Which points to ICE officers hiding any interaction that would have caused the asphyxiation.
 
Crepitus said:
This time like the murderous cops killed Floyd.

When U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced the Jan. 3 death of detainee Geraldo Lunas Campos at a Texas detention camp, the agency said “staff observed him in distress,” and it gave no cause of death.

An employee of El Paso County’s Office of the Medical Examiner told Lunas Campos’s daughter this week that, subject to results of a toxicology report, the office is likely to classify the death as a homicide, according to a recording of the conversation.

In the recording, which the daughter shared with The Washington Post, the employee said a doctor there “is listing the preliminary cause of death as asphyxia due to neck and chest compression,” which means Lunas Campos did not get enough oxygen because of pressure on his neck and chest. Pending the results of a toxicology report, the staffer said on the recording, “our doctor is believing that we’re going to be listing the manner of death as homicide.”
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Murder is their agenda
 
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