So, in another thread, what I think of as an interesting conversation started when Walt posted this post. To which I responded with a question.In the USA, we have the freedom to disrespect people.
Where does this right end?
So, in another thread, what I think of as an interesting conversation started when Walt posted this post. To which I responded with a question.In the USA, we have the freedom to disrespect people.
legally, it ends when a hypothetical "reasonable person" in the same situation as you feels the disrespect creates harmSo, in another thread, what I think of as an interesting conversation started when Walt posted this post. To which I responded with a question.
Where does this right end?
So. What if I misgendered a child as a teacher, should I lose my job? What if it was a made up gender like "turtleself"? What if I misgendered a cis gendered child and called them turtleself? Is this a one-way right where someone can use governmental power to fire you for calling someone with a penis "him" when they want to be called "them"?legally, it ends when a hypothetical "reasonable person" in the same situation as you feels the disrespect creates harm
is throwing a sandwich at me disrespectful and harmful? or just disrespectful?
There is a difference between accidently misgendering a child and deliberate disrespect.So. What if I misgendered a child as a teacher, should I lose my job? What if it was a made up gender like "turtleself"? What if I misgendered a cis gendered child and called them turtleself? Is this a one-way right where someone can use governmental power to fire you for calling someone with a penis "him" when they want to be called "them"?
When it infringes on their rights, of course.So, in another thread, what I think of as an interesting conversation started when Walt posted this post. To which I responded with a question.
Where does this right end?
just prior to force or fraud or assault.So, in another thread, what I think of as an interesting conversation started when Walt posted this post. To which I responded with a question.
Where does this right end?
deliberate disrespect is perfectly lawful, douchy pie-face.There is a difference between accidently misgendering a child and deliberate disrespect.
So teachers have the right to disrespect their students and keep their job?deliberate disrespect is perfectly lawful, douchy pie-face.
yes.So teachers have the right to disrespect their students and keep their job?
Interesting. How about employees in general?yes.
though the above is a slight move of goalposts.
disrespect is a slightly different consideration in the context of professional relationship, but writ large, the law shouldn't care.Interesting. How about employees in general?

holy fuck you're a god damn retard.legally, it ends when a hypothetical "reasonable person" in the same situation as you feels the disrespect creates harm
is throwing a sandwich at me disrespectful and harmful? or just disrespectful?
disrespect creating harm is a bullshit pussy notion.legally, it ends when a hypothetical "reasonable person" in the same situation as you feels the disrespect creates harm
is throwing a sandwich at me disrespectful and harmful? or just disrespectful?
You need to distinguish between purposefully and accidentally.So. What if I misgendered a child as a teacher, should I lose my job? What if it was a made up gender like "turtleself"? What if I misgendered a cis gendered child and called them turtleself? Is this a one-way right where someone can use governmental power to fire you for calling someone with a penis "him" when they want to be called "them"?
no no no.You need to distinguish between purposefully and accidentally.
Purposefully then the person can and should be fired based on school rules of decency. It would be no different than a teacher calling the fattest kid in the class slime each day knowing it was tormenting him