Would you say that Christianity has been inimical to human progress?

And this is the EXACT BS reply style of "Into The Night" (aka "Squawkie"). I have that maga buffoon on the ignore list. So now you can join him (or knock off the alias).

For the objective, rational reader I link the exchange that reduced "I Be Dumb Ass Mann" (sorry, I couldn't resist!) to the smoke blowing bumpkin that you see: https://www.justplainpolitics.com/t...nimical-to-human-progress.242861/post-6831400
yes.

they are the same. with slightly different personas.

most socks here are legion the crazed.
 
Christianity is best because it has the golden rule.

it's a moral revolution for humanity, rejecting tribalism and cults of comformity.

don't let demons persuade you against Christ's clear words:

do unto others shall be the whole of the law.
 
Christianity is best because it has the golden rule.

it's a moral revolution for humanity, rejecting tribalism and cults of comformity.

don't let demons persuade you against Christ's clear words:

do unto others shall be the whole of the law.
That's not what makes Christianity unique.

The Confucians and the Jains articulated the golden rule centuries before Christianity.

What made Christianity culturally unique is it gave Europe the unified administrative and bureaucratic expertise and the theological justification to create the first universities, hospitals, orphanages, public charities, and systems of art and science patronage.
 
That's not what makes Christianity unique.

it is.
The Confucians and the Jains articulated the golden rule centuries before Christianity.

they are so ascetic they don't believe in love and are obsessed with not eating bugs.
What made Christianity culturally unique is it gave Europe the unified administrative and bureaucratic expertise and the theological justification to create the first universities, hospitals, orphanages, public charities, and systems of art and science patronage.

bull shit.

you're a damn fool. all organizations have bureacracy and that's not an innovation.
 
bull shit!

you're a damn fool. all organizations have bureacracy and that's not an innovation!
I literally wrote unified administrative expertise and theological justification went hand in hand.

The Roman Empire was highly organized, but they did not have established systems of universities, hospitals, orphanages, public charities.
Those things did not exist in the pagan Greco Roman world.

They were established by a unified Christian administrative bureaucracy. Why? Because in principle, the theological belief in Christianity was based on an ethos of service to others. That ethos did not exist in the Greco Roman world, which simply assumed the natural order was that the strong would and should dominate the weak.
 
I literally wrote unified administrative expertise and theological justification went hand in hand.

The Roman Empire was highly organized, but they did not have established systems of universities, hospitals, orphanages, public charities.
Those things did not exist in the pagan Greco Roman world.

They were established by a unified Christian administrative bureaucracy. Why? Because in principle, the theological belief in Christianity was based on an ethos of service to others. That ethos did not exist in the Greco Roman world, which simply assumed the natural order was that the strong would and should dominate the weak.
tyrants have been claiming divine rule for a long time.

that;s a BAD use of religion.

of course you only value the sinister aspects of a thing, being evil as you are.
:truestory:

you're dumb and evil.
 
you're dumb and evil!!
Thanks for tacitly admitting you mischaracterized my post.

Because I did not say the invention of universities, hospitals, and orphanages only took an organized administrative bureaucracy.

I literally wrote that unified administrative expertise and theological justification went hand in hand.
 
Thanks for tacitly admitting you mischaracterized my post.

Because I did not say the invention of universities, hospitals, and orphanages only took an organized administrative bureaucracy.

I literally wrote that unified administrative expertise and theological justification went hand in hand.
I perfectly encapusated your post.

you focus on the totalitrian uses of a thing, while missing the actual spiritual revolution Christianity represents.

theologically justified governance needs to be on the ashheap of history.

luckily, morality is rational as explained by meister Jesus and others.

you're a ludditic tribalist warmonger despot-cretin.
 
No you didn't. You completely ignored how the Christian theological justification went hand in hand with a unified bureaucratic administrative expertise. They had to act in unison.
that's something you just keep saying.

bureaucracy is nothing new.

the golden rule is the true value of Christianity.

and you reject it because you are flush with the anti-christ spirit.
 
I do not know who that is, nor do I care.
Bart Ehrman is probably the most widely acclaimed atheist religious scholar in America.

He is professionally obligated to assess the Christian influence on western civilization in a even-handed, fair, balanced approach.

Therefore, he can and does openly state that the Christian influence on Western history is massive, and much of it was undeniably positive.

IMO, the most negative legacy Christianity left the West is a certain kind of pervasive intolerance - largely because it is an exclusivist religion that makes very specific truth claims.

In terms of violence and war, Christianity is neither unique not particularly malevolent in that respect. So I don't hold it out as a unique example of violence. More people have been killed by Communism, Nationalism, Capitalism, Colonialism, maybe even by Science than were killed in Christian conflicts.
 
Bart Ehrman is probably the most widely acclaimed atheist religious scholar in America.

He is professionally obligated to assess the Christian influence on western civilization in a even-handed, fair, balanced approach.

Therefore, he can and does openly state that the Christian influence on Western history is massive, and much of it was undeniably positive.

IMO, the most negative legacy Christianity left the West is a certain kind of pervasive intolerance - largely because it is an exclusivist religion that makes very specific truth claims.

In terms of violence and war, Christianity is neither unique not particularly malevolent in that respect. So I don't hold it out as a unique example of violence. More people have been killed by Communism, Nationalism, Capitalism, Colonialism, maybe even by Science than were killed in Christian conflicts.
all religions make exclusivist claims.

and you refuse to abstract Jesus clear moral message, the golden rule, which is totally reasonable btw, out of it.

you hobble the religion with your stupidity and then condemn it, again, with your own stupidity.

straight off the masonic idiot script.

you suck at thinking and are evil.
 
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