Does Vance have as much chance running for President as Pence does?

Phantasmal said:
I’ve known that since 1975, it’s time for you to face a little reality.
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It is time for you to face reality. Vance is the favorite

Presidential betting odds (Feb. 25)​

  1. JD Vance: +225
  2. Gavin Newsom: +350
  3. Donald Trump Sr.: +500
  4. Marco Rubio: +800
  5. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: +1200
  6. Donald Trump Jr.: +2000
  7. Kamala Harris: +2500
  8. Pete Buttigieg: +2500
  9. Ivanka Trump: +2500
  10. Josh Shapiro: +2500
  11. Mark Kelly: +2800
  12. Ron DeSantis: +2800
  13. Gretchen Whitmer: +2800
  14. Andy Beshear: +2800
  15. Jared Kushner: +3300
 
QP! said:
Would Vance be willing to hide his wife and kids in a closet for the duration of the campaign? Without doing so he destroys the racists and xenophobs part of the coalition which is most of it.

I honestly think he is fucked unless he divorces prior and then destroys his wife in public rants.

And he is so craven and power hungry he might
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You suggesting MAGA actually has confirmed beliefs or principles? As we’ve seen with Trump, what they profess to believe one day can easily be reversed the next. The only thing that unites them is their collective grievance populism, give them someone to hate, to blame, an empirical threat, and they’ll jump on the bandwagon

Vance’s shortcoming is that he isn’t Trump, he lacks the charisma Trump has with the base, and comes across as just angry all the time
 
archives said:
You suggesting MAGA actually has confirmed beliefs or principles? As we’ve seen with Trump, what they profess to believe one day can easily be reversed the next. The only thing that unites them is their collective grievance populism, give them someone to hate, to blame, an empirical threat, and they’ll jump on the bandwagon

Vance’s shortcoming is that he isn’t Trump, he lacks the charisma Trump has with the base, and comes across as just angry all the time
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i do think the hate of 'others' is a core belief of a big segment of the magats that would not shift if Trump shifted. Those racist xenophobic members would just stop voting again.

Prior GOP parties flirted with welcoming them, in an attempt to get that low voting base out, but always deemed it to dangerous thinking it would turn off too much of the rest of the base.
 
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