Is Turkey Next on US menu?

Nordberg said:
Tell that to the Iranians. It is a war. A sneak attack killing their leaders is clearly an act of war. We are killing the people and destroying their cities. We killed the leader in Venezuela and now Iran. We have always been a war-mongering country. We have been in 235 military conflicts and 5 wars.
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This is how trumptards try to gaslight. By claiming we're dropping bombs, killing and being killed but we're "not at war".

Republicans think word games are going to save them.
 
LurchAddams said:
This is how trumptards try to gaslight. By claiming we're dropping bombs, killing and being killed but we're "not at war".

Republicans think word games are going to save them.
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We now get lied to constantly.....the people who run America without our consent dont think we deserve the truth.
 
Nordberg said:
The Repubs are, as usual, for endless wars. We thought the days of Genghis Khan were gone. You can always find an excuse to go to war if you want to. Claim they had a secret plot to attack you. Since it is secret, you do not need proof. Bibi and Daffy Donald need little excuse to attack and kill people.
The GOP is against attacking Turkey until Trump tells them it must be done; then they will take a knee .
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What war, Sybil?
 
Nordberg said:
Tell that to the Iranians. It is a war.
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It is not a war, Sybil. The Iranian people are celebrating. They are no longer living under that tyrannical government.
Nordberg said:
A sneak attack killing their leaders is clearly an act of war.
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Not a war, Sybil. An assassination.
Nordberg said:
We are killing the people and destroying their cities.
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Nope. You are hallucinating.
Nordberg said:
We killed the leader in Venezuela
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Never did, Sybil. Maduro is in the United States facing trial.
Nordberg said:
and now Iran.
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Yes. The Iran leadership is dead.
Nordberg said:
We have always been a war-mongering country.
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You are describing the Iranian government.
Nordberg said:
We have been in 235 military conflicts and 5 wars.
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Argument from randU fallacy. You are making shit up again.
 
QP! said:
Israel has started to beat the war drum for an attack on Turkey.

This former Israeli PM who most say will be PM again, is using the exact same arguments Netanyahu used for many decades to get the US to a point where attacking Iraq and Iran got on the menu.


Yes Turkey is in Nato but that does not seem to be something that would deter Trump.
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I doubt it. I don't think Turkey has oil that they've been selling to China to fuel their war machine that they've been building up.

Basically. Here is what I "hear" among some of my old colleagues. China has been funding and putting war machines out like they feed people, and you don't build that kind of war machine without plans to use it as it sucks material and goods away from other necessities... Venezuela and Iran were both selling oil to China, which will continue as long as the US is willing... As soon as China makes any move, they will shut down the oil that will fuel their war machine.

The Administration is (shockingly) smart enough to keep that out of the news and push other reasons for Iran or the capture of Maduro... but the reality is strategically controlling the oil supply of an adversary that could actually make us hurt is the actual goal of this mess.
 
ZenMode said:
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You need to google the words that you are unable to comprehend or ask someone to read it to you.

That video is clear and that is a former Israel Prime Minister who is on track to be Prime Minister again and he has identified Turkey as a threat in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY and using EXACTLY THE SAME LANGUAGE that Netanyahu got the US to attack Iran with.
 
Damocles said:
I doubt it. I don't think Turkey has oil that they've been selling to China to fuel their war machine that they've been building up.

Basically. Here is what I "hear" among some of my old colleagues. China has been funding and putting war machines out like they feed people, and you don't build that kind of war machine without plans to use it as it sucks material and goods away from other necessities... Venezuela and Iran were both selling oil to China, which will continue as long as the US is willing... As soon as China makes any move, they will shut down the oil that will fuel their war machine.

The Administration is (shockingly) smart enough to keep that out of the news and push other reasons for Iran or the capture of Maduro... but the reality is strategically controlling the oil supply of an adversary that could actually make us hurt is the actual goal of this mess.
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I agree with all that but also think we would wrong not to consider that this is of immense interest to Israel who wants to be the sole super power in that region, especially now that Trump has basically said we will divide the world up into spheres of influence where each power, in each sphere gets to do what they want.

Turkey is really one of the only powers left in that region that could revile Israel in the future, for control of the region.
 
Damocles said:
I doubt it. I don't think Turkey has oil that they've been selling to China to fuel their war machine that they've been building up.

Basically. Here is what I "hear" among some of my old colleagues. China has been funding and putting war machines out like they feed people, and you don't build that kind of war machine without plans to use it as it sucks material and goods away from other necessities... Venezuela and Iran were both selling oil to China, which will continue as long as the US is willing... As soon as China makes any move, they will shut down the oil that will fuel their war machine.

The Administration is (shockingly) smart enough to keep that out of the news and push other reasons for Iran or the capture of Maduro... but the reality is strategically controlling the oil supply of an adversary that could actually make us hurt is the actual goal of this mess.
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China is sitting back watching us use our munitions on Venezuela, Ecuador, Yeman, Syria, the Caribbean, Somalia, Iraq, Iran, and Nigeria. All the places DonOld’s Dept. of War has droned or bombed in his second term.

If we block oil to China, they will start selling off treasury bonds. They also have tricks up their sleeves.
 
QP! said:
You need to google the words that you are unable to comprehend or ask someone to read it to you.

That video is clear and that is a former Israel Prime Minister who is on track to be Prime Minister again and he has identified Turkey as a threat in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY and using EXACTLY THE SAME LANGUAGE that Netanyahu got the US to attack Iran with.
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It's not happening. No way, Jose.
 
QP! said:
You need to google the words that you are unable to comprehend or ask someone to read it to you.

That video is clear and that is a former Israel Prime Minister who is on track to be Prime Minister again and he has identified Turkey as a threat in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY and using EXACTLY THE SAME LANGUAGE that Netanyahu got the US to attack Iran with.
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That is one man's drum beat, not so many as with Benny.
 
Damocles said:
I doubt it. I don't think Turkey has oil that they've been selling to China to fuel their war machine that they've been building up.

Basically. Here is what I "hear" among some of my old colleagues. China has been funding and putting war machines out like they feed people, and you don't build that kind of war machine without plans to use it as it sucks material and goods away from other necessities... Venezuela and Iran were both selling oil to China, which will continue as long as the US is willing... As soon as China makes any move, they will shut down the oil that will fuel their war machine.

The Administration is (shockingly) smart enough to keep that out of the news and push other reasons for Iran or the capture of Maduro... but the reality is strategically controlling the oil supply of an adversary that could actually make us hurt is the actual goal of this mess.
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There seems to be this extreme argument narrative building that Turkey is next somehow. Classic Democrat behavior.
 
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