Chuck Schumer on the "SAVE Act"

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the TSA requires those who don't have a passport or a copy of their birth certificate.to get one for domestic flights. THAT takes time,

Yet, you don't whine about that. Only for voting in elections do you whine about that. Why?

** Note: I purposely referenced 'birth certificate' for stylistic reasoning, but it's technically a 'real ID' (or similar) that is required, and a birth certificate is required in order to get such an ID (or similar).

The TSA requirements are already in effect.

Yet, you don't whine about that. Only for voting in elections do you whine about that. Why?

Tuesday, November 3rd 2026. (229 days from today)

This varies greatly. It could be as quick as the very same day (for in-person services) or it could take multiple weeks (for mail services). Personally, I would obtain one well in advance of when I would need it, but it doesn't take anywhere near 229 days to obtain one.

This varies by state, but in Wisconsin, it costs $20 for the first copy (+$3 for any additional copies ordered at the same time) plus fees for any additional services provided (such as expedited service).

Passport book = $165 total fees
Passport card = $65 total fees
Passport book + card combo = $195 total fees
Additional service fees may also apply.

It could take a month or two (or possibly longer) to obtain a passport... nowhere near 229 days.

What about getting an adult to explain the word 'proactive'?
Get cracking, pokey.
PAY ATTENTION, GUMBY:

THE SENATE HAS NOT PASSED THE BILL YET ... and it looks like they won't have the voter majority to do so. THAT MEANS IT IS NOT LAW. THAT MEANS THE STANDARDS FOR PROOF OF VOTER REGISTRATION STANDS ACROSS THE NATION .... JUST AS IT DID WHEN THE "RED WAVE" TOOK PLACE IN 2010 AND 2020, JUST WHEN CHEETO JEEZUS WON IN 2016 and when Biden won in 2020. And since you like to speculate, what do you think of the chances of the GOP TRYING THIS AGAIN in the next 229 days? Each time they do, the time line ticks down on that 229 days.

The turn around time to obtain a birth certificate copy once you fill out the form and mail it can take up to 2 months or a little bit over. The same goes for a passport. The MAGA GOP was hoping for immediate passage of the bill into law. That means A WHOLE LOTTA PEOPLE WOULD LITERALLY HAVE TO RE-REGISTER, which takes about another month on top of everything else. And remember, your Orange Oaf courtesy of the Apartheid Punk and DOGE have truly screwed over effective personal in the very federal agencies that process these items. Can you say DELAY boys and girls?

And the SAA virtually eliminates mail-in voting. That means a lot to rural folk, college kids and senior citizens. Also, many senior folk are on a fixed income, so dropping the passport money may cause (unnecessary) dire straits for them.

And before you parrot the same old stupid MAGA line: Even the Heritage Foundation conceded that there is NO RAMPANT OR EFFECTIVE VOTER FRAUD IN OUR ELECTIONS. So while phasing in a voter ID system THAT WILL BENEFIT AND NOT DISENFRANCHISE (which a portion of democrats support), it does NOT mean that you completely stop the current voting system which put your Cheeto Jeezus twice into office. Capice?
 
And lets not forget this VERY WEIRD ruling the Supreme Court made...

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- Supreme Court Ruling (Feb 2026): In a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that the federal law shielding the Postal Service from liability includes the "intentional non-delivery of mail".

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So with Trump's guy Louis De Joy picking the head who replaced him, and this bizarre SC ruling that says 'even if they with hold mail INTENTIONALLY they cannot be held to any account', there is a huge risk that USPS could simply deliberately not deliver any new IDs on time and even if every staff member came out and said 'we are purposely withholding all Blue State id's'... the SC has ensured that nothing could be done.

And also do not forget Trump demanded Obama show his birth certificate record and when Obama did, Trump just switched to 'not good enough... does not count', so anyone thinking this stops with ID being obtained is a fool.
EXCELLENT POINTS! :good4u:
 
Accept that SAVE is finished.

It will not pass.

And elections coming with the voters much more willing, particularly the indies, to vote, however reluctantly for the Democrats.

The Democrats now have a change to take 26 governorships, a gain of three.
 
Accept that SAVE is finished.

It will not pass.

And elections coming with the voters much more willing, particularly the indies, to vote, however reluctantly for the Democrats.

The Democrats now have a change to take 26 governorships, a gain of three.
Elections in Constitutional America were run by the states.
 
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