Iran rejects Trump plan to the end war

At least it seems that NOW Trump has learned the value of having allies that he prior claimed the US did not need, EVER....

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This is where the Magats on this forum jump in and start throwing out threats of why these countries MUST now jump in and bailout Trump and Magats after them starting a war with no consultation to others, no buy in from Allies and the allies now being told 'you are the ones who need the Strait so it is on you to clean it up'.

Why? Because Trump knows if the US is forced to do all the policing of the Strait it will be US soldiers only, who are killed by Iran attacks. The US wants to minimize US deaths and spread them around to allies to minimize them.
Hamas huggers say the dumbest shit. :laugh:
 
Trump is I'm a pathological liar and MAGA morons like me love it.
FIFY. I find it amusing when Biden/Kamala voters bloviate ignorantly about pathological liars. If Democrats lips are moving, they are lying. Brainless trained seals like Cypress clap for them. :laugh:
 
trump is just plain bad at making deals.

trump was told that if he did not get the oil flowing in 10 days, things will really start falling apart for us. So he gave the Iranians 10 days to respond... In other words, eating up all his time. It is just embarrassing.
 
So far the people who run Trump have been able to keep the markets from blowing up by constantly lying, but that wont work for much longer.
 
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"I am old enough to remember when folks tended to believe what the government and news media said"

You cant fix America's shredded credibility by changing out Trump....Trust once lost is very difficult to get back.
 
So far the people who run Trump have been able to keep the markets from blowing up by constantly lying, but that wont work for much longer.
Yup.

The people propping up the markets are doing so seeing Trump taco'd again and in the hopes Iran will take a deal and move on. But Iran realizing they hold all the cards is pushing a very tough deal.

A deal that will make Obama's deal look like a brilliant piece of negotiating, as Trump instead gives away the farm while lying calling it the 'best deal ever... bring more security than ever' when it does no such thing.

BUt Trump is entirely stuck and reliant on Iran and to a degree Israel allowing the deal, a good one for Iran, to go thru.
 
Yup.

The people propping up the markets are doing so seeing Trump taco'd again and in the hopes Iran will take a deal and move on. But Iran realizing they hold all the cards is pushing a very tough deal.

A deal that will make Obama's deal look like a brilliant piece of negotiating, as Trump instead gives away the farm while lying calling it the 'best deal ever... bring more security than ever' when it does no such thing.

BUt Trump is entirely stuck and reliant on Iran and to a degree Israel allowing the deal, a good one for Iran, to go thru.
There are constant reports that it is not just driving markets with rap......that the markets are being manipulated by the Empire Bankers, and that friends of Trump are doing massive illegal trades and raking in the money.
 
We have been trying for what, a decade, to get our newest aircraft carrier to work, and failing?

Prob does not matter now that we know that carriers are obsolete as we have been warned for over 20 years.....but still......this is something to notice.
 
There are constant reports that it is not just driving markets with rap......that the markets are being manipulated by the Empire Bankers, and that friends of Trump are doing massive illegal trades and raking in the money.
Well it is clear people close to Trump have been trading on almost everything and making a fortune with these new Prediction Markets where you can create any trade.

It has been non stop grift and there is speculation Trump has made some TACO announcements purposely just to so they can cash in and then reversed himself so they can cash in again.

No surprise on that.
 
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