Doesn't matter beliefs! A Jews road is laid out for him!
If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book
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Ichabod Stain
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so being a gentile just means non Jew.
it doesn't mean " a non Jew who believes,,,," in some unnamed thing.
you're looking for the word Noahide imbecile.
Some Gentiles are believers some aren't!
Jews are YHWH's Chosen People! Whatever relationship they have between YHWH and themselves is nobody else's business! Certainly not Gentiles,regardless if they are a believer or not
Ichabod Stain
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believers in what?
gentile just means non Jew.
the christian teaching is that jesus preferred the Jews to become Christians and abandon old testament animal sacrifice and stupidity.
"do unto others .... shall be the whole of the law".
WinterBorn
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What the hell is the "noahide idiot kingdom"?
And no, most Christians are not idolators.
Ichabod Stain
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you're the noahide idiot kingdom.
did you ask a Muslim or a Jew if Christians are idolators?
Some Gentiles,believe Jesus is Messiah,some don't
Ichabod Stain
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Ichabod Stain
Was it me?
I know you people have studied and waited your whole lives for this final subversion of Christ.
the problem with that is you can all go fuck yourselfs.
Amen.
the problem with that is you can all go fuck yourselfs.
Amen.
Ichabod Stain
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yes.
the approval levels are really to low to keep pushing forward.
God stopped you by busting tp-usa in public.
the whole neocon jar of shit is in jeopardy.
the approval levels are really to low to keep pushing forward.
God stopped you by busting tp-usa in public.
the whole neocon jar of shit is in jeopardy.
Ichabod Stain
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yes. and mark Levin still gargles cum everyday.
Ichabod Stain
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in jesus's name, sit down and stfu, mark Levin.
the power of Christ compels you.
Christ is king!
amen.
the power of Christ compels you.
Christ is king!
amen.
They are SOL
Ichabod Stain
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ZenMode
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That was common at the time. Lots of people were believed to be "godly" or descended from a god or part god/part human.The evidence from Paul's writing is that the belief Jesus was God in human form was widespread in the earliest Christian community, long before the gospels were written. So it is not a later legend that only appeared 70 years later.
Since Paul intimately knew Peter, James, and John, he had access to what the eyewitness disciples knew and were teaching from the earliest days.
Philippians 2-6 to 2-8
(Jesus) Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
Bible Gateway passage: Philippians 2 - New International Version
Imitating Christ’s Humility - Therefore if you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any common sharing in the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and...www.biblegateway.com
That's different than what John claimed which is that Jesus was God and existed as god before his time on Earth.
Incorrect
Philippians clearly says that Jesus was God in human form and equivalent to God.
Philippians 2-6 to 2-8
(Jesus) Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
Prior to this thread, you obviously didn't know about how Jesus was described in the epistles of Paul.
That's okay. I used to believe the same thing you do, until the evidence showed me I was wrong. Most people just want to point to the four gospels as evidence, forgetting (or not knowing) that Paul's epistles contain some valuable information about the historical Jesus.
ZenMode
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"In nature" isn't the same as "is equal to".
Biblegateway.com calls it imitating
Imitating Christ’s Humility
2 Therefore if you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any common sharing in the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, 2 then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and of one mind. 3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves, 4 not looking to your own interests but each of you to the interests of the others.5 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
Bible Gateway passage: Philippians 2 - New International Version
Imitating Christ’s Humility - Therefore if you have any encouragement from being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any common sharing in the Spirit, if any tenderness and compassion, then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit and...
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Your inventing ad hoc reasons to not allow your mind to accept the evidence of the clear written word. Philippians literally says he is equal to God
"being in very nature God", and "equality with God" are not the least bit ambiguous
At least you do accept now that the very earliest Christian community and the very earliest Christian writing described Jesus as God in human likeness. They didn't think he was just a human prophet with good teachings.
I used to hold your belief. But I had to change my mind when the manuscript evidence made my belief untenable.
ZenMode
Well-known member
It doesn't and if you read the subsequent verses, you'll see it's saying he's similar, in his behavior, to God.
It is.
Yes, which was common. Jesusater Christians competed with other "prophets" who claimed to be godly.
I think you're seeing what you want to see.
I had to look that one up myself a few years ago.
It's normal to have some minor conspiracy theory thoughts. In my teens, I was very interested on Project Bluebook, Ancient Astronauts and, of course, the Kennedy assassination. I outgrew the irrational parts by my 30s.
FWIW, I believe in God, meaning an all powerful intelligent force behind the creation of our Universe, and probably more than just the one we are experiencing.
I also believe that, if our brains are God-given gifts, then the expectation is for us to use them.
In short, I doubt God wants us to worship an ancient writing over using our God-given minds to find a better way.
MAGAts are not Christians. They prove this by their actions and beliefs, not by their dishonest or delusional claims.
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