Into the Night
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YARP
The Constitution is clear about the mail in voting
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Into the Night
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Into the Night
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Magats is not a word, Libby. Go learn what 'fact' is. Maga is not a person.
Cheetos are food. It is not sentient.
Into the Night
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YARP
@Into the Night keeps repeating himself. No argument.
Into the Night
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MAGAts isn't a word, Sybil. You can't blame your problems on anybody else, Sybil.
Into the Night
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Inversion fallacy.
Q. E. D.
Precisely. I haven't scrolled beyond this point yet, but I'm going out on a limb here and will predict that I won't see any coherent responses to your comment. You have far too much common sense, logic, and reason for any drone to compute, let alone combat. Great comment.Requiring ID to register to vote and to vote, along with voting in person, are not radical changes. All mail-in voting is a radical change. Voting 'seasons' weeks long is a radical change. And, yes I think there is a degree of fraud in the system.
With all mail-in balloting you don't know who filled out any particular ballot. The only verification for that is a signature on it that has to have a low probability of a match. With weeks to vote it is easily possible that any number of scenarios occur where a ballot is filled out fraudulently.
Toss in ballot harvesting where political party operatives are legally allowed to collect ballots from voters for turn in. There's no supervision or control on their actions from the time they receive said ballot and when they turn it in, if they bother to.
Same day, no ID required voter registration is another thing rife for fraud. No ID in person voting is yet another.
Severe restrictions on purging voter rolls is still another way to get massive fraud. Since political parties have access to voter names and party they can use those bloated rolls in all sorts of fraudulent schemes given they have weeks to carry them out.
California allows 16- and 17-year-olds to "pre-register" to vote now. They legally can't vote until they're 18 however....How stupid is that? Why can't they register to vote at 18 and not clog the voter rolls with persons that are ineligible to vote?
Your claim that it's rare is based on known cases. This is based on a combination of Ludic and McNamara fallacies. In the past, claims were that Medicare and other government welfare programs were mostly fraud free. We've seen in the last year or two how that claim is clearly fallacious. The fraud was there but undiscovered. In a voting system where much of it is done unsupervised and with plenty of time and means to commit massive fraud, it is possible, even likely, that massive fraud is occurring but simply goes undetected because the system in place allows, even helps, hiding it.
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Into the Night
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YARP
Back to the topic. You say *only* congress and the states. That’s a contradiction. Which is it?
Are you saying we didn’t have a democracy before?
ACLU Condemns President Trump’s Executive Order Attempting to Restrict Mail-In Voting | American Civil Liberties Union
WASHINGTON, D.C. — The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) condemns President Trump’s new unlawful executive order attempting to restrict mail-in...www.aclu.org
Which is why there’s been absentee voting since the 18th century
ACLU Condemns President Trump’s Executive Order Attempting to Restrict Mail-In Voting | American Civil Liberties Union
WASHINGTON, D.C. — The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) condemns President Trump’s new unlawful executive order attempting to restrict mail-in...
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How is it a contradiction? Is Trump's executive order Constitutional?
Well if we really be honest and come down to it, democracy was for the entitled rich White dudes.
“Only” has to be states or congress. Not both
No
So you agree the constitution needs to be redone?
Aren't MAGAts for State rights?
Thank you.
Hence the reason for Amendments.
IDK. I am.
You’re welcome
Or amendments can be repealed.
Sure they can be. According to some posters here, there is a valid reason why women shouldn't be able to vote.