The Constitution is clear about the mail in voting

T. A. Gardner said:
Not true. There is evidence fraud happens and in local and state elections has altered outcomes in the past. My argument is one of, essentially, "Trust but verify." That means a reasonable chain of custody on ballots. Observable and open ballot counting. Voter ID required. These are rational and practiced by most nations today. The outlier is the US having all mail-in balloting coupled with things like ballot harvesting and no ID requirements.

This is just a nirvana fallacy. Your argument here boils down to one of If it isn't a perfect solution, we shouldn't adopt it or do it...
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perps were caught, convicted,d and sentenced.You have no credible evidence of mail-in balloting fraud other than a handful of cases where perps were caught, convicted,d and sentenced. That proves that the system works and is secure. Otherwise, they would not have been detected.

What you MAGATs really want is to make voting more difficult in order to curtail turnout and thus help (R)s win more races. How very, very unAmerican of you "patriots" -- trying to disenfranchise voters and discourage citizens from practicing their Constitutional right to cast a ballot. Didn't you once take an oath to UPHOLD the Constitution, not fracture it?

As others have pointed out numerous times, mail-in balloting has been a safe, secure practice for decades. Suddenly now that we have an election-denying sap in the WH, you want to whine about "trust." Why's that, Trumpanzee?

Some fun reading for you:

Fact-checking Trump's claim the U.S. is the 'only country that uses mail-in voting​

 
Taichiliberal said:
And of course our silly magats here turn a blind eye to an indisputable fact: Cheeto Jeezus and the Maga majority in Congress owe their current positions to an electoral system that incorporated (wait for it) MAIL-IN BALLOTS. Interesting, n"cest pas?
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Ha, excellent observation. You can hear it now: "We barely squeaked by in 2024. Too many voters. We better fix that." -- Republikkkans
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
perps were caught, convicted,d and sentenced.You have no credible evidence of mail-in balloting fraud other than a handful of cases where perps were caught, convicted,d and sentenced. That proves that the system works and is secure. Otherwise, they would not have been detected.

What you MAGATs really want is to make voting more difficult in order to curtail turnout and thus help (R)s win more races. How very, very unAmerican of you "patriots" -- trying to disenfranchise voters and discourage citizens from practicing their Constitutional right to cast a ballot. Didn't you once take an oath to UPHOLD the Constitution, not fracture it?

As others have pointed out numerous times, mail-in balloting has been a safe, secure practice for decades. Suddenly now that we have an election-denying sap in the WH, you want to whine about "trust." Why's that, Trumpanzee?

Some fun reading for you:

Fact-checking Trump's claim the U.S. is the 'only country that uses mail-in voting​

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I'm disabled and would need to use a mail-in ballot if I didn't have a ride. My possible rides are Mom or a neighbor. That isn't always reliable.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
perps were caught, convicted,d and sentenced.You have no credible evidence of mail-in balloting fraud other than a handful of cases where perps were caught, convicted,d and sentenced. That proves that the system works and is secure. Otherwise, they would not have been detected.
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Exactly! How many cases have gone undetected? We don't know, of course. It's like Somali daycare fraud. It was "undetected" until it was detected.
ThatOwlWoman said:
What you MAGATs really want is to make voting more difficult in order to curtail turnout and thus help (R)s win more races. How very, very unAmerican of you "patriots" -- trying to disenfranchise voters and discourage citizens from practicing their Constitutional right to cast a ballot. Didn't you once take an oath to UPHOLD the Constitution, not fracture it?
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How is it "more difficult" to have to produce an ID to vote? How is it "more difficult" to produce additional ID once at your own convenience in order to register to vote? Is having to vote in person such a massive burden that you can't be bothered to leave your house and do it one or two times a year?
ThatOwlWoman said:
As others have pointed out numerous times, mail-in balloting has been a safe, secure practice for decades. Suddenly now that we have an election-denying sap in the WH, you want to whine about "trust." Why's that, Trumpanzee?

Some fun reading for you:

Fact-checking Trump's claim the U.S. is the 'only country that uses mail-in voting​

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You keep making that claim based on a McNamara fallacy. It won't get better.
 
Unfortunately the founding fathers weren't able to foresee the extent that the enemies within will go to dismantle the America they shaped.

Evil is like erosion. It never stops relentlessly attacking good and righteousness.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Ha, excellent observation. You can hear it now: "We barely squeaked by in 2024. Too many voters. We better fix that." -- Republikkkans
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One maga moron actually said to me that just because they won an used it as a bragging point and justification for all their heinous actions doesn't mean they were content with the system.
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I kid you not. You can't make this stuff up.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
ighht winger who says anything youExactly! How many cases have gone undetected? We don't know, of course. It's like Somali daycare fraud. It was "undetected" until it was detected.


How is it "more difficult" to have to produce an ID to vote? How is it "more difficult" to produce additional ID once at your own convenience in order to register to vote? Is having to vote in person such a massive burden that you can't be bothered to leave your house any.Yopu are a Trumpian rd do it one or two times a year?

You keep making that claim based on a McNamara fallacy. It won't get better.
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Every god damn election gets thoroughly checked. We are relentless and charge people with minor charges, too. There is no similarity with Somalis .You are so dishonest to say that are alike. That is a falacious tack you took, and you should be ashamed. Your logic is you never can believe anything because something was bad once.
 
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YARP
 
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