What is the practical difference, Hormuz is blocked either way.

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More foreign money flowing into our economy is a good thing.

Really, than any hasn’t has prices shrunk considerably, and, it can lead to cost push inflation

 

[Into the Night]

1. Doing business with someone does not make them a military ally,

It actually does tend to do just that, Libby!

as we do business with Arab, Muslim and authoritarian countries.

That we do.

Your insane "what if" scenario smacks of military paranoia and imperialism.

Inversion fallacy. You cannot blame Iran's or China's problems on anybody else, Libby.

Better you do some homework on our history with Iran to truly grasp what's going on.

He has.

2. Hezbollah didn't exist until Israel first attacked Lebanon. Look it up. Then note; Israel lies about nuke capability in Iran and gets America to do its dirty work, then do air strikes on unrelated countries. Nothing to "study", as it's clear who's bitch America is as Netanyahu and company live out their zionist fantasy.

Buzzword fallacies (zionist). Israel already exists, dude. Now you want nuclear war.

3. So you're advocating to start WW3? For Israel? Hell, if you or your family and friends want that, sign up. But don't condemn others to fulfill a zionist/American imperislist wet dream.

YOU are advocating for WW3. For Iran, no less.
Buzzword fallacies (zionist, imperislist, wet dream, condemn others, American).

4. Spare me the regurgitation of neocon/teabagger justification and condescending guff. Bottom line; no one said the deal was perfect, but it was a hell of a lot better than what the GOP offered ... which was NOTHING but the SOS of total capitulation from the Iranians, which lead us to the current fiasco. Now Dump and company are essentially trying to push a deal similar to the one Obama had ... which took 2 years to get. Netanyahu doesn't want that. And here we are.

Buzzword fallacies (neocon, teabagger, condescending, guff, deal, SOS, fiasco, Dump).

Try English. It works better.

 

[Into the Night]

Mind you. I have no love or respect for the theocratic thuggery of the current Iranian regime.

Lie. DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!

But that does NOT justify America's current actions

Yes it does.

at the behest if Israel or our attempts to control yhe world economy based on the dollar. If more Americans understood the history we have with Iran, there would be far less support for this debacle.

Buzzword fallacies (behest, control, yhe, world economy, history, debacle).

Try English. It works better.

 

[Into the Night]

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Wake up, anchovies.

 

[Into the Night]

Really, than any hasn’t has prices shrunk considerably, and, it can lead to cost push inflation

YARP

 

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YARP

SDKA

 

[zymurgy]

Mind you. I have no love or respect for the theocratic thuggery of the current Iranian regime. But that does NOT justify America's current actions at the behest if Israel or our attempts to control yhe world economy based on the dollar. If more Americans understood the history we have with Iran, there would be far less support for this debacle.

you shit stains are too soft on each other


this terrorist loving fuck stain wants us to believe he is free to post from inside his shit hole country that the relgious nutjobs have on lock down

no way this soft as fuck loser is in Iran. doubt he has ever set foot there

 

[Into the Night]

SDKA

YARP

 

[archives]

YARP

SBSS

 

[Walt]

What is the practical difference if the US is blocading Hormuz or Iran is?

Its blocked either way, right? We want it open.

The double blockade means that only ships that both parties let through will get through. If trump decides to really enforce his half of the double blockade, that will basically mean that no ships will get through. There are few to no ships that both parties would let through.

Iran can't let their friends through now. Now countries like China will put pressure on Iran.

Or China's leadership can just blame the USA for their troubles... And not have to take any blame themselves... Otherwise known as every leaders dream situation.

More tankers coming to the Gulf of America for a fill up.

Running up the price of our gasoline. Are you ready for $7 gasoline?

Iran has indicated that they will let ships from countries allied or friendly to them pass going on the Iranian side of the strait in their waters.

Which countries are allied with Iran? There are non-nation state players allied with Iran, but not entire countries.

So you can't figure out why its better that we're blocking it and not Iran?

The whole concept of the double blockade of The Strait is that both trump and Iran are blocking.

If Iran tries to close it can they keep it closed?
If Trump closes it can he keep it closed?

Iran can definitely keep it closed. They may lose control of units meaning they cannot stop closing it.

trump can keep it closed, if he does not TACO out.

It is good for our domestic oil industry.

Yes, they will be able to charge the rest of America far more for gasoline.

More foreign money flowing into our economy is a good thing. We paid more under Biden and received no additional foreign money into our economy.

The last part is a lie. American oil and liquified natural gas exports rose extremely under Biden. Huge amounts of foreign money flowed to our economy.

 

[Yakuda]

The double blockade means that only ships that both parties let through will get through. If trump decides to really enforce his half of the double blockade, that will basically mean that no ships will get through. There are few to no ships that both parties would let through.


Or China's leadership can just blame the USA for their troubles... And not have to take any blame themselves... Otherwise known as every leaders dream situation.


Running up the price of our gasoline. Are you ready for $7 gasoline?


Which countries are allied with Iran? There are non-nation state players allied with Iran, but not entire countries.


The whole concept of the double blockade of The Strait is that both trump and Iran are blocking.


Iran can definitely keep it closed. They may lose control of units meaning they cannot stop closing it.

trump can keep it closed, if he does not TACO out.


Yes, they will be able to charge the rest of America far more for gasoline.


The last part is a lie. American oil and liquified natural gas exports rose extremely under Biden. Huge amounts of foreign money flowed to our economy.

Oh well

 

[serenity]

What is the practical difference if the US is blocading Hormuz or Iran is?

Its blocked either way, right? We want it open.

What exists between actual physical results and intellectual possibilities exist beyond current events going forward now as specifically existed so far individually here?

Human ideologies performed ancestrally in plain sight of ancestors wishing now wasn't eternity being the balance point of living eternally separated as biologically positioned now.

History has recorded what people will do to save ideas cradle to grave every generation gap so far.

 

[Jarod]

I'm looking at sites that track the movement of ships. What are you basing that on, CNN or MS NOW telling you differently?

Ill look for them, but if you want to find it it's easy, there are several articles discussing how ships are spoofing the tracking of ships, so... Likely, you got duped AGAIN!

 

[Lionfish]

Ill look for them, but if you want to find it it's easy, there are several articles discussing how ships are spoofing the tracking of ships, so... Likely, you got duped AGAIN!

Do that and get back to us with a logical explanation of how a satellite photo can be altered in real time.

 

[Jarod]

Do that and get back to us with a logical explanation of how a satellite photo can be altered in real time.

So, you believe T.A. is looking at satellite photos, or real time tracking that is being spoofed?

 

[FastLane]

Do that and get back to us with a logical explanation of how a satellite photo can be altered in real time.

I'm betting we have drones up monitoring the straits 24/7

 

[Jarod]

So you have no answer?

That is what the do when they have no answer. @Yakuda

 

[Lionfish]

So, you believe T.A. is looking at satellite photos, or real time tracking that is being spoofed?

That was not my question. Back up your claim.

 

[Lionfish]

I'm betting we have drones up monitoring the straits 24/7

Of course they do. There are a multitude of ways to check Hormuz traffic. The receptionist gets his rocks off being a contrarian asshole.
Slow day at the phone bank.

 

[Jarod]

That was not my question. Back up your claim.

Ok, Ill answer. What was the question? I cant find it.