Has anybody purchased any gas lately?????

Noking said:
I just got back from filling my tank, and it costed me $20 more than what I use to pay.
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Yes, I purchased gas this morning. It cost me $3.599/gallon, which is only 20c/gallon more than the AVERAGE gas price that I had paid for THREE WHOLE YEARS under the Autopen Regime.

A couple months... three years... a couple months... three years.

Where were you from 2021 - 2023 when the "Green New Scam" was driving gas prices through the roof?
 
Cypress said:
Thanks Trump (n)
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Exactly.
gfm7175 said:
Yes, I purchased gas this morning. It cost me $3.599/gallon, which is only 20c/gallon more than the AVERAGE gas price that I had paid for THREE WHOLE YEARS under the Autopen Regime.

A couple months... three years... a couple months... three years.

Where were you from 2021 - 2023 when the "Green New Scam" was driving gas prices through the roof?
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Let me know where you buy your fuel so that I can go there and get mine.
 
Cypress said:
They can if they start a war of choice in the Persian Gulf.
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Trump doesn't raise the cost of anything dickhead. Others may choose to act because of his actions but he doesn't control that. What you muppets should have done was put up a better candidate for president and gas would have been free by now but you idiots put up a kamal.
 
Yakuda said:
Trump doesn't raise the cost of anything dickhead. Others may choose to act because of his actions but he doesn't control that. What you muppets should have done was put up a better candidate for president and gas would have been free by now but you idiots put up a kamal.
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Do you seriously believe the tripe that you post??????
 
gfm7175 said:
Yes, I purchased gas this morning. It cost me $3.599/gallon, which is only 20c/gallon more than the AVERAGE gas price that I had paid for THREE WHOLE YEARS under the Autopen Regime.

A couple months... three years... a couple months... three years.

Where were you from 2021 - 2023 when the "Green New Scam" was driving gas prices through the roof?
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1) “I purchased gas this morning at $3.599/gallon”​


That is plausible and consistent with real 2026 California pricing ranges.


  • California gas prices commonly fluctuate around the mid–$3 to $5 range depending on taxes, refinery constraints, and seasonality.
  • So $3.60/gallon is not inherently unusual or suspicious.

✔ This part is factually plausible (though not independently verified from the post alone).



2) “Only 20 cents more than the average gas price I paid for three years under the Autopen Regime”​


This is where it breaks down.


Problems:​


❌ A) “Autopen Regime”​


  • This is not a real policy term or recognized administration name
  • It’s a political insult / meme framing, not an actual economic period

So comparisons tied to it are not analytically grounded.



❌ B) “Three years of average gas price comparison”​


Gas prices from 2021–2023 were not stable and varied significantly:


Approximate U.S. averages:


  • 2021: ~$3.00/gallon average (with swings)
  • 2022: peaked around ~$5.00 nationally after Ukraine invasion spike
  • 2023: declined toward ~$3.40–$3.80 range

So:


  • There was no flat “three-year average”
  • Any claim of a single stable baseline is misleading

✔ Real pattern: volatility, not stability



3) Implicit claim: “gas was cheap/stable then vs now”​


This is selective framing.


Actual context:


  • 2022 spike was driven heavily by:
    • Russia–Ukraine war
    • global crude oil shock
    • post-COVID demand rebound
  • U.S. policy (any administration) has limited direct control over global oil pricing

So attributing the entire movement to a single political label (“Green New Scam”) is not supported by energy economics.



4) “Where were you from 2021–2023…?”​


This is rhetorical, not factual. It implies:


  • a consistent upward trend caused by policy
  • and ignores that prices fell significantly in 2023 from 2022 highs

That’s selective time-window framing.



5) “Green New Scam driving prices through the roof”​


This is opinion, not evidence-based causation.


What actual energy analysis shows:


  • Short-term gas prices are dominated by:
    • crude oil prices (global markets)
    • refinery capacity
    • geopolitical shocks
  • Climate/energy transition policy has indirect and longer-term effects, not sudden price spikes of the magnitude seen in 2022

So this is:
❌ causal oversimplification
❌ politically loaded labeling
✔ not supported as a primary driver of 2022 price spikes



Bottom line​


What’s accurate:​


  • $3.60/gallon is plausible current pricing
  • Gas prices did fluctuate significantly in 2021–2023

What’s misleading:​


  • Treating 2021–2023 as a stable baseline
  • Suggesting a single political regime caused price changes
  • Implied causation between climate policy and short-term spikes
  • “Autopen Regime” framing (not real)

What’s missing:​


  • global oil market explanation (the main driver)
  • acknowledgment of 2022 spike and 2023 decline
 
Grim Reaper said:

1) “I purchased gas this morning at $3.599/gallon”​


That is plausible and consistent with real 2026 California pricing ranges.


  • California gas prices commonly fluctuate around the mid–$3 to $5 range depending on taxes, refinery constraints, and seasonality.
  • So $3.60/gallon is not inherently unusual or suspicious.

✔ This part is factually plausible (though not independently verified from the post alone).



2) “Only 20 cents more than the average gas price I paid for three years under the Autopen Regime”​


This is where it breaks down.


Problems:​


❌ A) “Autopen Regime”​


  • This is not a real policy term or recognized administration name
  • It’s a political insult / meme framing, not an actual economic period

So comparisons tied to it are not analytically grounded.



❌ B) “Three years of average gas price comparison”​


Gas prices from 2021–2023 were not stable and varied significantly:


Approximate U.S. averages:


  • 2021: ~$3.00/gallon average (with swings)
  • 2022: peaked around ~$5.00 nationally after Ukraine invasion spike
  • 2023: declined toward ~$3.40–$3.80 range

So:


  • There was no flat “three-year average”
  • Any claim of a single stable baseline is misleading

✔ Real pattern: volatility, not stability



3) Implicit claim: “gas was cheap/stable then vs now”​


This is selective framing.


Actual context:


  • 2022 spike was driven heavily by:
    • Russia–Ukraine war
    • global crude oil shock
    • post-COVID demand rebound
  • U.S. policy (any administration) has limited direct control over global oil pricing

So attributing the entire movement to a single political label (“Green New Scam”) is not supported by energy economics.



4) “Where were you from 2021–2023…?”​


This is rhetorical, not factual. It implies:


  • a consistent upward trend caused by policy
  • and ignores that prices fell significantly in 2023 from 2022 highs

That’s selective time-window framing.



5) “Green New Scam driving prices through the roof”​


This is opinion, not evidence-based causation.


What actual energy analysis shows:


  • Short-term gas prices are dominated by:
    • crude oil prices (global markets)
    • refinery capacity
    • geopolitical shocks
  • Climate/energy transition policy has indirect and longer-term effects, not sudden price spikes of the magnitude seen in 2022

So this is:
❌ causal oversimplification
❌ politically loaded labeling
✔ not supported as a primary driver of 2022 price spikes



Bottom line​


What’s accurate:​


  • $3.60/gallon is plausible current pricing
  • Gas prices did fluctuate significantly in 2021–2023

What’s misleading:​


  • Treating 2021–2023 as a stable baseline
  • Suggesting a single political regime caused price changes
  • Implied causation between climate policy and short-term spikes
  • “Autopen Regime” framing (not real)

What’s missing:​


  • global oil market explanation (the main driver)
  • acknowledgment of 2022 spike and 2023 decline
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It's almost $4 a gallon here. I think it was $3.89.
 
According to economists such as Paul Krugman, the core issue is not the “price of oil,” but the physics of supply.

When 20% of the world’s real oil flow is disrupted, price alone can no longer rebalance the market.

Under such conditions, a quiet but critical process begins:
  • Economies start to retreat.
  • Companies cut production because they lack sufficient energy.
  • Transportation becomes constrained.
  • Investments are put on hold.
  • And ultimately, demand declines—not by choice, but by necessity.
This is what Krugman refers to as “demand destruction.”

At this point, the 2026 crisis moves beyond a price shock and becomes a chain reaction of economic erosion.

Rising electricity prices in the United States, increasing industrial production costs, and higher prices for fertilizers and urea all signal the next wave: food inflation.

This means the crisis is no longer confined to energy markets—it has entered everyday life.

More importantly, this process is not quickly reversible.

Even if Trump abandons his illegal blockade of the Persian Gulf tomorrow, the global economy would not simply return to its previous state.

Why?

Because the processes have been damaged.
  • Contracts have been canceled,
  • production lines have been halted,
  • and many businesses have disappeared in the meantime.
Rebuilding this network will take time—not days, but months, perhaps even years.

Meanwhile, a striking paradox has emerged.

Prices in Asia and the West have soared, and some oil producers—particularly in the Persian Gulf—are facing severe revenue losses due to export disruptions, in some cases up to 85%.

In other words, this crisis is simultaneously squeezing both consumers and producers.

Time has now become the most critical variable.

Each day that the Americans try to impose their will on Iran pushes the world one step closer to a familiar yet dangerous scenario: stagflation—a combination of low growth and high inflation.
 
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