I kind of figured you thought that.
IQ of 35 fer shure!
ROFL - never change Stooge.
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I kind of figured you thought that.
IQ of 35 fer shure!
ROFL - never change Stooge.
Grim Reaper
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Uncensored is the only guy who could type IQ 35 and you know his is much lower. His posts hit the thread like pop‑ups, annoying, repetitive, and nobody remembers what they said once they’re gone.
I wonder why Uncivilized (@Uncensored2008 ) is stuck on the IQ measurement, "35"?
Perhaps that's the quotient the poor trumptard hopes to aspire to someday?
Poor leech - falling into the "severely retarded" category has been hard on you.
Ted Cassidy lived in Covina when I was a teen. I used to run into him at the Taco Bell on Citrus. He was a really nice man, was very educated and intelligent.
You're nothing like him. Nothing at all like him.
Sparky - you have to know that based on your perverted view of the world and constant outright lying that any insult from you is actually a compliment.
Your words could not mean less to me.
Leech, you degrade the man whos' character you use. You're a scumbag, and the actor who played Lurch was a decent man- nothing at all like you.
You should change your name and avatar to something like "Pigshit" to accurately descrive who and what you are.
If you would go back and study the last sentence of post #145 - that should be helpful to you. Just try to sound the words out slowly dimwit, you should get through it ok.
That was stupid. Other countries have better care at less than half our price. They have been our labs. This is not fantasy, but fact. Our healthcare system shows that owners and investors will squeeze every dime out of healthcare by higher prices and cutting services. For p[ofit healthcare guaranties] the highest prices and the least service delivery they can get away with. The bug in our system is the health insurance industry. They have no product, They do not do healthcare and they come between a person who needs care and the hospital. Two trillion dollars plus is the money we waste on health insurance,
Poor Pigshit - not enought IQ points to construct a witty comeback.
So basically you're pigshit with three stooge socks.
No what, Pigshit?
No, you refuse to think, Pigshit? No, you refuse to have integrity?
I get it, monosyllabic idiocy is all you are capable of. It's that 35 IQ you have, Pigshit.
He believes himself to be quite the comedian....seriously... he often shares his borrowed filth ....(I would suggest he Not quit his day job but... )
Facts prove exact opposite.
The fact is that health insurance has blossomed from an average of $480 a month in 2008 to over $2,500 a month in 2026. That is a rise of over 500% due to Obama's fascist care scheme.
How Much Is Health Insurance Going To Cost? (2026)
This guide covers the cost of health insurance between 1999-2025, including average monthly premiums, costs by plan type and family size, and factors that influence your rates.
Hey, but Kaiser, Humana, and Blue Cross have profits beyond their wildest dreams. And of course the donate HEAVILY to the democrat party, with lots of special bonuses for the Pelosi's and Obama's involved.
Grim Reaper
Chief Exit Officer (CEO)
The fact is that health insurance has blossomed from an average of $480 a month in 2008 to over $2,500 a month in 2026. That is a rise of over 500% due to Obama's fascist care scheme.
How Much Is Health Insurance Going To Cost? (2026)
This guide covers the cost of health insurance between 1999-2025, including average monthly premiums, costs by plan type and family size, and factors that influence your rates.www.consumershield.com
Hey, but Kaiser, Humana, and Blue Cross have profits beyond their wildest dreams. And of course the donate HEAVILY to the democrat party, with lots of special bonuses for the Pelosi's and Obama's involved.
1. “Health insurance averaged $480/mo in 2008.”
False.Authoritative data from the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) shows:
- 2008 average employer‑sponsored family premium: $12,680/year → $1,056/month
- 2008 average employer‑sponsored single premium: $4,704/year → $392/month
Source: KFF Employer Health Benefits Survey (2008)
2. “Health insurance is $2,500/mo in 2026.”
Not supported by any major dataset.The most recent authoritative numbers (2023–2025):
- 2023 employer family premium: $23,968/year → $1,997/mo
- 2023 employer single premium: $8,435/year → $703/mo
The site linked (consumershield.com) is not a primary data source. It aggregates marketing content and does not publish raw actuarial data.
Sources:
- KFF Employer Health Benefits Survey (2023)
- CMS National Health Expenditure Data
3. “Premiums rose 500% because of Obamacare.”
Mathematically false.Let’s use the real numbers:
Single coverage
2008: $392/mo 2023: $703/mo Increase: ~80%, not 500%.Family coverage
2008: $1,056/mo 2023: $1,997/mo Increase: ~89%, not 500%.Even if you cherry‑pick the highest individual‑market premiums in certain states, you cannot reach a 500% national increase.
Sources:
- KFF (2008–2023)
- CMS (ACA marketplace data)
4. “Obamacare caused all the increases.”
Oversimplified and contradicted by data.Premium growth has been driven by:
- Rising hospital prices
- Rising prescription drug costs
- Consolidation in provider markets
- Increased chronic disease burden
- Insurer administrative costs
- Employer plan design changes
- 1999–2008: premiums rose ~119%
- 2008–2023: premiums rose ~80–90%
Sources:
- KFF Long‑Term Premium Trends
- Health Affairs, “Trends in Employer Premium Growth”
5. “Kaiser, Humana, Blue Cross have profits beyond their wildest dreams.”
Misleading.Health insurer profit margins are low compared to other industries:
- Typical net margins: 3–6%
- Hospitals: 8–12%
- Pharma: 15–20%
- Insurers must spend 80–85% of premiums on medical care
- Excess must be rebated to consumers
Sources:
- NAIC (National Association of Insurance Commissioners)
- CMS MLR Reports
6. “They donate heavily to Democrats, with bonuses to Pelosi and Obama.”
Unsupported conspiracy claim.Actual donation patterns:
- Health insurers donate to both parties, usually leaning Republican in most cycles.
- No evidence exists of “special bonuses” to Pelosi or Obama.
- Campaign finance is publicly searchable via FEC.gov.
- In 2020, health insurance PACs gave ~54% to Republicans, ~46% to Democrats.
- In 2022, the split was similar.
- FEC.gov
- OpenSecrets.org (Health Insurance Industry Profile)
7. Summary Table
| Claim | Verdict | Evidence |
|---|---|---|
| $480/mo in 2008 | False | KFF shows $392/mo (single) |
| $2,500/mo in 2026 | Unsupported | No major dataset shows this |
| 500% increase | Math is wrong | Real increase ~80–90% |
| Obamacare caused all increases | Incorrect | Premiums rose faster pre‑ACA |
| Insurers have massive profits | Misleading | Margins 3–6%, MLR caps profits |
| Insurers donate heavily to Democrats | False | Donations split, often GOP‑leaning |
| “Bonuses” to Pelosi/Obama | No evidence | Not supported by FEC records |