Losing Our Sense of Common Decency

ZappasGuitar wrote:
We may not want to rule, but we sure like being close by to shove a cattle prod up the backside of any Iraqi who doesn't go along with what we say...
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Your deviant sexual fantasies have no place in the Common Decency thread PRicky. Is that a pig in your pocket with all the "we's" going on?
 
usaloyal2theend said:
ZappasGuitar wrote:

Your deviant sexual fantasies have no place in the Common Decency thread PRicky. Is that a pig in your pocket with all the "we's" going on?
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He's right though usa. we are nationbuilding.

Don't let hatred cloud your thinking. Sometimes even stupid people are right. Maybe even by accident. but that particular thing you quoted is on the level.
 
AssHatZombie said:
the U.S. has been instrumental in creating the New world order. We fund most of the U.N. and we as leader of the western world, we are highly influential in the world bank. ALl of this influence is from military might, and our victory in wwII. Our killing power. It's not all voluntary on the part of nations around the world, as you implied or said.
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Ah yes, the over used 'new world order' excuse. Yes, we are a major force in the world.... as the remaining super power that is kind of expected. Again you create a strawman... I never stated that everyone liked the role we play in the world... I stated we have no intentions of conquering a land and imposing our rule of law.

What careers should people retrain for if even computer programming jobs are going overseas? You seemmed to imply that only low skill jobs are being lost with you previous statements. That is just a lie. What should people retrain into?
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I did not 'seem to imply' anything of the sort. YOU simply read into my comments what you wanted to read. I stated clearly that the jobs were related to production AND SERVICE.

Manufacturing can retrain into infrastructure build out (those are jobs that CANNOT go overseas). The intellectual capacity required for both is fairly comparable.

You seem to think it doesn't matter if we lose productive capacity in many industries. I think it does. Because we cannot retool overnight, but we could be cut off overnight.

The standard of living is going down here as we speak, due to globalization.
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LMAO.... no it has not gone down. While we have seen economic uncertainty due to the financial crisis, we still see the technological advancements within society have made their way throughout the middle class and in most cases into the lower income families as well.

Many feel that this is just global justice. Many are just greedy and infected with a traitorous brainwashedness concerning globalist stupidity.
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some simply feel that they need to blame other people in other countries for their misfortune. The only difference between trying to lift all classes HERE and all classes in the world are a bunch of ARBITRARY lines created in the past that define 'borders' of countries. You want to lift all boats so long as the boats are HERE. Others, like myself, see the benefit in helping lift the boats EVERYWHERE.
 
Superfreak said:
Ah yes, the over used 'new world order' excuse. Yes, we are a major force in the world.... as the remaining super power that is kind of expected. Again you create a strawman... I never stated that everyone liked the role we play in the world... I stated we have no intentions of conquering a land and imposing our rule of law.
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But it's still true that the "working together to make production efficient" is accomplished under the threat of our military might and our subsequent control of international financial institutions.
I did not 'seem to imply' anything of the sort. YOU simply read into my comments what you wanted to read. I stated clearly that the jobs were related to production AND SERVICE.
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You said people needed simply to retrain to avoid having their jobs outsourced. But the fact is that no amount of expertise will save anyone from globalization's race to the bottom.
Manufacturing can retrain into infrastructure build out (those are jobs that CANNOT go overseas). The intellectual capacity required for both is fairly comparable.
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What infrastructure buildout?

And what about the millions of degreed white collar workers who's jobs are being sent overseas in droves, simply because the cost of living and living standards are less overseas? Scientists and IT professionals are losing their futures. That's not mindless work. They're already highly trained.
LMAO.... no it has not gone down. While we have seen economic uncertainty due to the financial crisis, we still see the technological advancements within society have made their way throughout the middle class and in most cases into the lower income families as well.
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You're just lying now, fool.

Since the latest bubble popped, the real deterioration of our economy is revealed. There's more than just UNCERTAINTY going on here, you jackass.

Lives are being ruined. Analysts are talking about a NEW NORMAL. That means we're just supposed to accept a deterioration in our standard of living.

What does the new normal mean to you?

some simply feel that they need to blame other people in other countries for their misfortune. The only difference between trying to lift all classes HERE and all classes in the world are a bunch of ARBITRARY lines created in the past that define 'borders' of countries. You want to lift all boats so long as the boats are HERE. Others, like myself, see the benefit in helping lift the boats EVERYWHERE.
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I blame american leadership for conducting trade policy in an idiotic fashion which destroys the lives of a majority to enrichen multinational corporate profits.

Borders are not arbitrary and meaningless. They demarcate areas of property and resources specifically for use by citizens of the governing nation. In fact, the PRIMARY function of a government is to defend the borders on behalf of the citizenry. People died defending these borders. And they fought presuming they were securing these lands for their progeny, not for the people of the world. You insult anyone who died defending this nation with your assertion.

You have proven you are a globalist, a traitor to americans. The purpose of government is enrich the lives of its citizens FIRST, above the needs of the CITIZENS OF THE WORLD. Your radicalized globalist view of governance is one in which government is intended to suppress it's own citizenry in some kind of idealized NEW WORLD ORDER. That is a perversion of governance.

You are a traitor.
 
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Superfreak said:
Why don't you LIBERALS actually listen to what conservatives say? While there certainly are some who wish to protect the status quo, many (especially on this board) have talked about cutting the wasteful spending within defense.

Also, it is moronic to pretend they want 'to take money from old people'... unless you care to provide an example of such...
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An example? Republican, Tea Party-backed Senate candidate Joe Miller who wants to phase out Medicare. Take away the “old people’s” medical.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/08/miller-social-security-medicare-unconstitutional/

The Iraq and Afghanistan wars had little to do with the financial crisis we face. Also.... they have NOTHING to do with Imperialism. We have no desire to take over their countries and rule their lands.
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Followed by, in msg 84,
Ah yes, the over used 'new world order' excuse. Yes, we are a major force in the world.... as the remaining super power that is kind of expected. Again you create a strawman... I never stated that everyone liked the role we play in the world... I stated we have no intentions of conquering a land and imposing our rule of law.
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The US already has taken over land and imposed their rule of law. Nine years in Afghanistan. How long do they have to stay before it’s considered “taking over”?

As for imposing their rule of law the US Armed Services and Allies have supported girls going to school and not having to wear a burka. The purpose of the burka was to protect the girls. That is part of their religion to cover their hair so as not to attract boys.

In any case, imagine a foreign power coming here and supporting our 12 and 14 and 16 year old girls if they wanted to go topless. Women go topless in Southern France. What the hell is wrong with people here objecting to women going topless? Are we subjugating our women, keeping them captive, denying them the same rights bestowed on men?

Imagine if the invading power told you your daughter could attend school and walk down the street topless and if you interfered you’d be shot! Would you consider that interfering in our laws?
 
AssHatZombie said:
He's right though usa. we are nationbuilding.

Don't let hatred cloud your thinking. Sometimes even stupid people are right. Maybe even by accident. but that particular thing you quoted is on the level.
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Her hatred of me is so all consuming she will never accept any idea put forth by me as the right one.
 
apple0154 said:
The US already has taken over land and imposed their rule of law. Nine years in Afghanistan. ]How long do they have to stay before it’s considered “taking over”?

As for imposing their rule of law the US Armed Services and Allies have supported girls going to school and not having to wear a burka. The purpose of the burka was to protect the girls. That is part of their religion to cover their hair so as not to attract boys.

In any case, imagine a foreign power coming here and supporting our 12 and 14 and 16 year old girls if they wanted to go topless. Women go topless in Southern France. What the hell is wrong with people here objecting to women going topless? Are we subjugating our women, keeping them captive, denying them the same rights bestowed on men?

Imagine if the invading power told you your daughter could attend school and walk down the street topless and if you interfered you’d be shot! Would you consider that interfering in our laws?
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So many "to the point" questions...it's NO WONDER you haven't gotten a single reply from thew board Righties...
 
I think we should all refrain from using the word "jizz," as Asshate practically has it trademarked, and it would be a shame to see him become wealthy off of anyone here.

Cum, seed, juice, etc., should suffice. Thank you.
 
Threedee said:
I think we should all refrain from using the word "jizz," as Asshate practically has it trademarked, and it would be a shame to see him become wealthy off of anyone here.

Cum, seed, juice, etc., should suffice. Thank you.
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Dude, been using the term since the 70's. AHZ wasn't even born then. :fu:
 
AssHatZombie said:
But it's still true that the "working together to make production efficient" is accomplished under the threat of our military might and our subsequent control of international financial institutions.
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LMAO.... no, it is not. We do not threaten China, Indonesia, India etc... with military might in order for them to produce our goods (China/Indonesia) or services (India). They do it because it is a benefit to them. To THEM they are high paying jobs that can help their middle classes grow. The US also knows that by increasing the middle classes elsewhere, it creates more consumers for our end products.

You said people needed simply to retrain to avoid having their jobs outsourced. But the fact is that no amount of expertise will save anyone from globalization's race to the bottom.
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Any job that HAS to stay here: ie.... building out infrastructure, homes, office buildings etc.... those are jobs that the people who don't want higher education can retrain into.

What infrastructure buildout?
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The infrastructure is in tatters.... there are countless jobs waiting to be done.

And what about the millions of degreed white collar workers who's jobs are being sent overseas in droves, simply because the cost of living and living standards are less overseas? Scientists and IT professionals are losing their futures. That's not mindless work. They're already highly trained.
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Please show me where millions of Scientists and IT have been outsourced. Meaning... show me where SCIENTISTS are actually looking for work in the US and can't find. As for IT... a lot of people went into that sector in the late 90's and we had to IMPORT a lot of tech people to keep up with demand. After Y2K was past, many of those jobs were gone.

That said, I do agree many jobs are going to be competitive on the world market. AS THEY SHOULD BE.


Since the latest bubble popped, the real deterioration of our economy is revealed. There's more than just UNCERTAINTY going on here, you jackass.
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Yes, I am aware there is more involved, I have highlighted some of the major problems in previous threads.

Lives are being ruined. Analysts are talking about a NEW NORMAL. That means we're just supposed to accept a deterioration in our standard of living.
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No, I do not accept it, which is why I rail on the problems we face. But the problems are not due to globalization. It is due to the far too cozy relationship between wall street and DC.

What does the new normal mean to you?
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The new normal is that we will continue having to pay for the sins of wall street banks and DC politicians until we revolt and toss them all out of office.

I blame american leadership for conducting trade policy in an idiotic fashion which destroys the lives of a majority to enrichen multinational corporate profits.
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I blame the leadership as well. But it isn't the trade policy that is destroying this country. It is the fiscal/monetary policy and the lack of regulation in key areas of the market.

Borders are not arbitrary and meaningless. They demarcate areas of property and resources specifically for use by citizens of the governing nation. In fact, the PRIMARY function of a government is to defend the borders on behalf of the citizenry. People died defending these borders. And they fought presuming they were securing these lands for their progeny, not for the people of the world. You insult anyone who died defending this nation with your assertion.
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Now you are just becoming overly hyperbolic. Borders ARE arbitrary you twit. Just look at the countries of the middle east and the arbitrary nature in which they were created after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Our borders arbitrarily changed as we 'purchased' land. I have never stated we shouldn't defend our borders or fight to be the best. I simply think that to be our best we have to produce at the highest capacity that we can. If that means shipping off jobs that can be done more efficiently elsewhere, THAT helps us.

You have proven you are a globalist, a traitor to americans. The purpose of government is enrich the lives of its citizens FIRST, above the needs of the CITIZENS OF THE WORLD. Your radicalized globalist view of governance is one in which government is intended to suppress it's own citizenry in some kind of idealized NEW WORLD ORDER. That is a perversion of governance.

You are a traitor.
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No one suggested that our government SUPPRESS the citizens of the US moron. Not in any way shape or form.
 
apple0154 said:
An example? Republican, Tea Party-backed Senate candidate Joe Miller who wants to phase out Medicare. Take away the “old people’s” medical.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/08/miller-social-security-medicare-unconstitutional/



Followed by, in msg 84,

The US already has taken over land and imposed their rule of law. Nine years in Afghanistan. How long do they have to stay before it’s considered “taking over”?

As for imposing their rule of law the US Armed Services and Allies have supported girls going to school and not having to wear a burka. The purpose of the burka was to protect the girls. That is part of their religion to cover their hair so as not to attract boys.

In any case, imagine a foreign power coming here and supporting our 12 and 14 and 16 year old girls if they wanted to go topless. Women go topless in Southern France. What the hell is wrong with people here objecting to women going topless? Are we subjugating our women, keeping them captive, denying them the same rights bestowed on men?

Imagine if the invading power told you your daughter could attend school and walk down the street topless and if you interfered you’d be shot! Would you consider that interfering in our laws?
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1) Taking over means WE run the country. If you think we are running Afghanistan right now you are quite mistaken.

2) We are telling the parents that their children CAN'T wear burkas? Or are we supporting the Afghan governments decision to allow it to be optional? Please provide me with a link to support your suggestions.
 
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