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DamnYankee
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You'd know about this, apparently.
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funny, you made the same point, but coming from you its ok...lol...way to show you're a moron SF
see...toi accept your opinion, we would have to believe that NO ONE has ever confessed after being arrested. see we all know that is not true, your opinion lacks any merit and is solely based on your opinion, wheras my opinion is based facts. since you know that it is possible he could confess, instead of being honest, you simply dismiss as rambling with nothing more than because is i say so....
wrong again...i never said that, YOU did...you twisted my words to say something i never said...thats dishonest and you don't like it when its done to you...yet, you're doing here and can't even back it up with a word for word against my exact words...more of i'm right because i say i am
lool...the irony is that YOU are the one rambling...in fact, repeating the very word over and over with no substantive discussion...
lol...rinse and repeat...
no way....he doesn't actually discuss the issue but uses the word ramble again...lmao
like what....
you're basing on this on very little discovery, no arrest of the guy and you ignore the fact that she wants her day in court, but you don't want to give this woman what she wants...you want to deny her her day in court....i'm glad i'm not like you...and soc may have been in the situation, but let's face it...we are all arm chair warriors in this case
again with the lies...please show where i stated she was not raped...like soc, i've pointed out the weak points, however, unlike soc i would take teh case to court...and that somehow makes me believe she wasn't raped....you're just plain stupid
good lord...you're losing it...i've been saying this all along, you're just not listening
how ironic give the number of times you actually rambled...at least i can adress each and every point you have...you however lack that ability because you can't admit you're wrong
funny, you made the same point, but coming from you its ok...lol...way to show you're a moron SF
see...toi accept your opinion, we would have to believe that NO ONE has ever confessed after being arrested. see we all know that is not true, your opinion lacks any merit and is solely based on your opinion, wheras my opinion is based facts. since you know that it is possible he could confess, instead of being honest, you simply dismiss as rambling with nothing more than because is i say so....
wrong again...i never said that, YOU did...you twisted my words to say something i never said...thats dishonest and you don't like it when its done to you...yet, you're doing here and can't even back it up with a word for word against my exact words...more of i'm right because i say i am
lool...the irony is that YOU are the one rambling...in fact, repeating the very word over and over with no substantive discussion...
lol...rinse and repeat...
no way....he doesn't actually discuss the issue but uses the word ramble again...lmao
like what....
you're basing on this on very little discovery, no arrest of the guy and you ignore the fact that she wants her day in court, but you don't want to give this woman what she wants...you want to deny her her day in court....i'm glad i'm not like you...and soc may have been in the situation, but let's face it...we are all arm chair warriors in this case
again with the lies...please show where i stated she was not raped...like soc, i've pointed out the weak points, however, unlike soc i would take teh case to court...and that somehow makes me believe she wasn't raped....you're just plain stupid
good lord...you're losing it...i've been saying this all along, you're just not listening
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how ironic give the number of times you actually rambled...at least i can adress each and every point you have...you however lack that ability because you can't admit you're wrong
Socrtease
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Date rape cases usually involve acquaintainces and not "fuck buddies", rarely do you have one where someone says they "think they said no" but can't remember clearly. Most of the time they didn't take off their own clothing. MOST but not all date rape has evidence of force. There was heaving petting then a halt called, boy won't stop, clothes are ripped, vaginal abrasions, tearing etc. Granted I don't know every aspect of this case but I imagine if there were actually physical signs of rape that would not have escaped your discription of it. The are just too many things in this that could easily lead a jury to an acquittal. Buck may be a pig and may hate women, but I don't know a whole lot of prosecutors that would have taken this to trial.
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Socrtease
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Something someone could find out very easily is the number of times he has declined to prosecute a rape case. They could even look at the cases and see if the facts look a lot like this. My bet is, if this were a pattern, not prosecuting rape cases, it would already be a HUGE deal in the election.
Someone who is an ex is not a "fuck buddy" (though I admit to having a very unclear idea of exactly what a fuck buddy is).
The reason I ask is, it seems to me a case is being made by you, and to a lesser extent by SF, that if a rape case is largely but not solely based on witness testimony, then the defense attorney is really going to be "salivating" to get at the victim. And we should spare the victim the trauma and the state the cost.
It seems to me this is very close to terrorizing rape victims into not prosecuting. Further, unless it is a case of a woman being raped by a stranger in an alley with a knife, beaten, preferably left for dead, then there is always going to be opportunities for defense attorneys to attack the victim.
I strongly disagree with your take on this.
Socrtease
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It is cost benefit analysis. If you have the evidence to make your case but still need her to testify then you do it. If you don't have the evidence to prove rape you don't go forward. There is always this sort of analysis in deciding when to prosecute. If she had just called him and recorded him on her own it would have been admissible. By having her call from the police station and using the police recorders she became an agent of the state at that point. It is why his confession is not admissible. The police REALLY screwed this prosecution up.
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Fuck buddies are awesome when you're single. The appropriate term, however, if friends with benefits, or, as I like to term it, beneficial friends. 
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I never said NO ONE yurt you fucking idiot. I stated that YOUR OPINION that he would sing like a canary had they just arrested him was nonsense. YOU were basing that feeble opinion on the fact that he admitted to rape when he thought it was a private conversation. Nothing more.
No moron. I am basing it on the FACT that the DA didn't prosecute because he didn't think he had enough to convict. I am basing it on the fact that her attorney didn't file a motion to compel.... which also indicates her attorney didn't think so either. I am basing it on the facts that Soc has already mentioned that you continue to ignore. You fucking moron.
Poor Yurt... I stated you were to ignorant to comprehend that she was raped. Many of us, including myself, have stated that it is a FACT she was raped and a FACT that he is a rapist. you stated that was 'just our opinion, not fact'. That indicates you are too fucking stupid to comprehend she was raped. Just as I stated.
DamnYankee
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You and your boys.Fuck buddies are awesome when you're single. The appropriate term, however, if friends with benefits, or, as I like to term it, beneficial friends.
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I'm sure they have their own too, but I try not to be all up in their biness...
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you certainly seemed to indicate that. and once again you make a claim that isn't true. i based my opinion not only on his prior admittance, but other people as well. since you are so smart and its so stupid of me to base my opinion on "feeble" prior acts....what is it your greatness basis his opinion on?
can't wait for this one...since you admit people do in fact admit to crimes after being arrested, what then is your basis that this guy will not confess?
um, that has nothing to do with YOUR comment about not putting the woman through a public trial. perhaps if you calmed down a bit you wouldn't forget your stupid arguments and then make the above comments which only reinforce your stupidity. go back and read what you said, and i haven't ignored anything soc said, in fact, i've repeatedly talked about it and then said i disagree....and if you calm down even further, you would see i informed soc that she wanted her day in court and he then changed his tune about putting her on the stand and reliving the moment.
count to 10 slowly and then get back to me...because this is embarrassing
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wrong again...it is only your opinion at this point....thats a fact...he hasn't been convicted...thats a fact....you may believe he is a rapist and it certainly looks like he is...but he was never brought to trial and in this country, he is presumed innocent. why is it you can't comprehend the laws of this country?
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Woman.... "you raped me"
Man... "Yes I did"
Superfreak..."It is a FACT he raped her, he is a rapist"
then comes Yurt:
No one said a fucking thing about him being convicted yurt. OJ wasn't convicted either, many times criminals get away with crimes on either technicalities or absence of evidence against them. It doesn't change the FACT that they committed the crimes. You fucking moron.
HE IS A SELF ADMITTED RAPIST. THAT IS FACT. you fucking retard.
Man... "Yes I did"
Superfreak..."It is a FACT he raped her, he is a rapist"
then comes Yurt:
No one said a fucking thing about him being convicted yurt. OJ wasn't convicted either, many times criminals get away with crimes on either technicalities or absence of evidence against them. It doesn't change the FACT that they committed the crimes. You fucking moron.
HE IS A SELF ADMITTED RAPIST. THAT IS FACT. you fucking retard.
I like this side of you SF. And not just because it's Yurt.
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Not a fan of idiots... regardless of what side of the aisle they fall upon.
Don't get too gushy though... you still suck.
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LOL...i wondered if you would run away from explaining how you know he wouldn't confess and then run away from putting her on the stand and you didn't disappoint...you in fact ran away because you can't explain your idiotic notions.
and apparently i have to say this again because you're retarded:
it doesn't look good for him and i would go after him because he admitted it. however, once again, cases are rife with idiots confessing only later to find out they were not really confessing to an actual crime or the crime.
sorry you don't like facts, but all you have is YOUR opinion based on what this guy admitted. i've read about cases where the defendant admitted to a crime, only later to find out he was only saying that because of some misguided notions or he was a nutcase. so - i know you hate this - but in our country, he is not a rapist until convicted. sorry you hate that, but that is a FACT. anything else is simply YOUR opinion. in my OPINION, as i've stated time and again, but you're too stupid to comprehend, i think the guy is a fucking rapist and he should have been tried.
hopefully this sinks in to your small brain
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Don't get too gushy though... you still suck.
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