Unconscious? You Know You Wanted It

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An improvement for me? I have not been privy to water and grind's polls, but the idiocy on this thread is no improvement for me. I have a better class of people in my circle. And I don't personally befriend rape apologists.

As for Yurt I have no idea what he is trying to say, I stopped reading his posts days ago and he writes like he is on speed so it's difficult to discern.

Apple is smarmy. Him I have read before.

But that's neither here nor there.

The man admitted to the rape.

Period.



All of this other stuff is a bunch of nonsense.


Buh-bye! :lies:
 
And also you can't hear that in a transcript. Her voice could have been shaking. We don't know. I mean, it's not relevant and I completely agree with you, but it's a fact that we don't know.

I can also see where some people would go emotionally dead after an experience like that.
 
Yeah, I love that - yes, a rapist CAN be a rapist, but he isn't definitely a rapist unless a court says so.

Beyond moronic. You are seriously stupid; terminally....

see...you're lying about what i said...i said, under our laws he is not considered a rapist...eg., he doesn't have to register, he is not incarcerated...but...he can be a rapist

seriously, you and SF and darla have done nothing but lie and distort what i've said...its really weird and pathetic
 
see...you're lying about what i said...i said, under our laws he is not considered a rapist...eg., he doesn't have to register, he is not incarcerated...but...he can be a rapist

seriously, you and SF and darla have done nothing but lie and distort what i've said...its really weird and pathetic

No, you didn't say that. And you went on & on about it too - you're an idiot, who changes the goalposts every time he realizes his own idiocy.

Read back through the thread; you're really a fool. There was nothing about "under the law." It was all "he's not a rapist until a court tells us he is."'

I can't tell you how glad I am that I am nowhere near as clinically stupid as you.
 
No, you didn't say that. And you went on & on about it too - you're an idiot, who changes the goalposts every time he realizes his own idiocy.

Read back through the thread; you're really a fool. There was nothing about "under the law." It was all "he's not a rapist until a court tells us he is."'

I can't tell you how glad I am that I am nowhere near as clinically stupid as you.

at least you finally admit your lying...there is hope for you yet

the truth is, i've repeatedly said he can be a rapist, that he is convicted in the court of public opinion...however, legally he is not considered a rapist

i'm sorry the truth hurts you so much
 
I don't know how often it happens and neither do you. It doesn't matter. This is a red herring. It happened here. THe police asked her to try and get a recorded confession right in front of them, and she got it. The rapist admitted to the rape. This makes you a rape apologist.

I was trying to decide if you were being silly or suffering from a most unfortunate mental disability. I've decided to go with the mental disability.

If, as you state, the Police wanted a confession then they got what they wanted. Logic dictates that if they got what they wanted they would have laid charges and common sense tells us that if they didn't lay charges they didn't believe the confession.

Logic and common sense, my Dear. Do try to understand.

It's been established that we have two rape apologists on this thread; Yurt and Apple.

You hate women Apple, you're just better at disguising it than an asshat type. And you're a rape apologist.

Done.

The only thing that's been established is you are crackers. Wacko. Nuts. As for being "done", it's apparent you're well over-baked.
 
at least you finally admit your lying...there is hope for you yet

the truth is, i've repeatedly said he can be a rapist, that he is convicted in the court of public opinion...however, legally he is not considered a rapist

i'm sorry the truth hurts you so much

What are you talking about, lunatic?

I'm not "admitting I'm lying." You say that as a form of projection, because you are a textbook pathological liar.

Like I said - read through the thread. I'll "link up" if you want, but you can dig for your own humiliation first. You said what you said; you did not confine it to "the law."

Such an effin' idiot....
 
I was trying to decide if you were being silly or suffering from a most unfortunate mental disability. I've decided to go with the mental disability.

If, as you state, the Police wanted a confession then they got what they wanted. Logic dictates that if they got what they wanted they would have laid charges and common sense tells us that if they didn't lay charges they didn't believe the confession.

Logic and common sense, my Dear. Do try to understand.



The only thing that's been established is you are crackers. Wacko. Nuts. As for being "done", it's apparent you're well over-baked.

Oh, I understand you quite well Apple.

As for your borderline retarded statements that the police didn't believe the confession or they would have "layed" charges (jesus, you are quite a case study), you obviously didn't understand the original article, and you certainly haven't understood any of the posts made on this thread, many of which have already discussed and dismissed your outrageous nonsense.

Or, did you even read them? Or the original story?

Did you just get to the transcript of the taped call, and your mind immediately started to wander to the role-playing fantasy you insisted on posting for all of us and things took their natural course (for you) and you retired to the privacy of your bathroom?

Idiot.
 
What are you talking about, lunatic?

I'm not "admitting I'm lying." You say that as a form of projection, because you are a textbook pathological liar.

Like I said - read through the thread. I'll "link up" if you want, but you can dig for your own humiliation first. You said what you said; you did not confine it to "the law."

Such an effin' idiot....

LOL...you tried to claim i said something, i called you on it and said it was a lie and then you admit that "no, you did not say that".....if i am pathological liar....show a measely three lies i've told...should be easy since i'm pathological...don't worry, we all know you won't back up your false claims, yuou never do, you lie and make them but of course can never back them up

i guess in onceler's wacky world you can claim someone said something and then when you get called on it and are forced to admit they never said that....it wasn't a lie to claim they said something they never said

lmao...who's the lunatic?
 
see...you're lying about what i said...i said, under our laws he is not considered a rapist...eg., he doesn't have to register, he is not incarcerated...but...he can be a rapist

seriously, you and SF and darla have done nothing but lie and distort what i've said...its really weird and pathetic

You didn't say THAT. Not from the beginning; only when you realized you're an idiot, which is a big realization.

Better? Should have known that you're reading comprehension skills would bail on you for the umpteenth time.

And yes - you're the lunatic. You really are. An unhinged person.
 
LOL

"someone can't be a rapist unless a court says they are"

Great POV. Biggest idiot here, bar none.

As for you, Apple - the "tone of voice & emotion" argument is completely bogus. How ridiculous to assume that every rape victim will display some sort of necessary hysterics or tears to "verify" they've been raped....

I'm not talking about hysterics. Again, let's look at the transcript.

Victim: "You do realize that … it's rape."
Suspect: "Yeah, I do."

There's the confession. End of conversation? Not quite. She continues on with;

Victim: "Like in a number of different ways, because I didn't want to do it and because I was intoxicated and because I was afraid."
Suspect: "Yes I do. I know."

I do not believe a rape victim would continue the conversation. What would be the point of doing so?

Sorry, but it doesn't pass the smell test. No pun intended.
 
And also you can't hear that in a transcript. Her voice could have been shaking. We don't know. I mean, it's not relevant and I completely agree with you, but it's a fact that we don't know.

We may not know for sure but, again, logic and common sense tells us that if she felt "uncomfortable" she would have ended the conversation immediately after he confessed but she continued the conversation.
 
I'm not talking about hysterics. Again, let's look at the transcript.

Victim: "You do realize that … it's rape."
Suspect: "Yeah, I do."

There's the confession. End of conversation? Not quite. She continues on with;

Victim: "Like in a number of different ways, because I didn't want to do it and because I was intoxicated and because I was afraid."
Suspect: "Yes I do. I know."

I do not believe a rape victim would continue the conversation. What would be the point of doing so?

Sorry, but it doesn't pass the smell test. No pun intended.

What are you talking about? What does this babble mean? You have posted nothing on this thread other than a sexual fantasy of yours.

You think you did something here? Your smugness is in no way justified by your contributions.

You always have to have the last word. I finally got off the porn thread because I was satisfied I had exposed you as what you are, and I knew you were going to keep posting the same nothing you had been posting for days.

Because you can't walk away from any thread that has anything to do with sex Apple.

And you won't walk away from this one because you think this rape thread, is about sex.

Yet, all you have done is post a sex fantasy, and a couple of juvenile jokes with the two board idiots.

Now, I definitely believe that a smarmy, smug, sex-obsessed, rape apologist like yourself will actually believe he made some point here. But frankly, I am once again satisfied that you have been exposed for precisely what you are.
 
Yeah definitely. Death too. Some go numb and can't cry, especially at first. This is just pure stupidity on this thread.

Here we go, AGAIN. If she was numb or emotionally dead she wouldn't have continued the conversation. People in that state are not noted to be conversationalists.

Do you have any clue about human behavior? Let me clarify. Do you have clue about normal, human behavior?

I can't believe you advocate for anything.
 
Oh, I understand you quite well Apple.

As for your borderline retarded statements that the police didn't believe the confession or they would have "layed" charges (jesus, you are quite a case study), you obviously didn't understand the original article, and you certainly haven't understood any of the posts made on this thread, many of which have already discussed and dismissed your outrageous nonsense.

Or, did you even read them? Or the original story?

Did you just get to the transcript of the taped call, and your mind immediately started to wander to the role-playing fantasy you insisted on posting for all of us and things took their natural course (for you) and you retired to the privacy of your bathroom?

Idiot.

What are you rambling about now? Make your point, if you have one.

As for retiring to the privacy of my bathroom didn't anyone tell you projecting is not nice? At least I don't get off fantasizing about strangers and guide dogs but to paraphrase Seinfeld, there's nothing wrong with that. :)
 
What are you talking about? What does this babble mean? You have posted nothing on this thread other than a sexual fantasy of yours.

You think you did something here? Your smugness is in no way justified by your contributions.

You always have to have the last word. I finally got off the porn thread because I was satisfied I had exposed you as what you are, and I knew you were going to keep posting the same nothing you had been posting for days.

Because you can't walk away from any thread that has anything to do with sex Apple.

And you won't walk away from this one because you think this rape thread, is about sex.

Yet, all you have done is post a sex fantasy, and a couple of juvenile jokes with the two board idiots.

Now, I definitely believe that a smarmy, smug, sex-obsessed, rape apologist like yourself will actually believe he made some point here. But frankly, I am once again satisfied that you have been exposed for precisely what you are.

I thought you said you were "done" a while back? I see you're the one who can't walk away and your projecting is really becoming obvious.

If you have a sex fantasy go with it. Grab BOB and let loose and concern yourself less about my sexual appetite. You will feel better. Trust me. :D
 
Law and Order? :palm:

I was referring to something a little more realistic, something along the lines of a news program like 60 Minutes or The Fifth Estate (Canadian).

As for calling from the Police station I did not dismiss that. The fact is I specifically mentioned that by writing, "From my understanding detectives take note of a person’s demeanor when questioning them. Perhaps they felt her “reaction” was not appropriate."

Look at the conversation.
Victim: "You do realize that … it's rape."
Suspect: "Yeah, I do."
Victim: "Like in a number of different ways, because I didn't want to do it and because I was intoxicated and because I was afraid."
Suspect: "Yes I do. I know."

It sounds like a casual conversation. Detached from emotion. The Police probably wanted to hear what she would say and how she would react. Maybe when she filed the complaint they noticed a lack of anger or fear?

The Police frequently use clues such as listening to a 911 call. Remember the guy who claimed the gas pedal was stuck on the car he was driving? The Police use those calls to interpret the person's level of anxiety, panic, anger, fear, etc.

The point is the transcript of the call sounds like it lacks emotion and that probably had a lot to do with the detectives dismissing the case.

As I said before I'm not an expert, however, my understanding is rape is a traumatic event and that conversation does not sound like that of a traumatized person. Does it to you?

What is it with people writing stuff and then trying to deny they wrote it? Must be Yurt's unhealthy, psychotic influence.

Apple - above you are saying the "lack of emotion" is "probably" what caused them to dismiss the case.

That is patently ridiculous. Detectives would laugh at you.
 
What is it with people writing stuff and then trying to deny they wrote it? Must be Yurt's unhealthy, psychotic influence.

Apple - above you are saying the "lack of emotion" is "probably" what caused them to dismiss the case.

That is patently ridiculous. Detectives would laugh at you.

No, detectives would not laugh.

It is not the lack of emotion per-se. As I tried to make clear the person's demeanor is analyzed by any detective who interrogates. That's why 911 calls play a big part in cases. A person's emotional reaction is a clue.

I interpret the transcript as possibly lacking the normal emotion associated with rape. I think it's apparent the detective and the Attorney General felt the same way as a confession is usually a slam dunk case.

Look at the facts. The guy is running for the Senate. Winning ANY case is a plus for him and he has a confession! It's a cake walk IF the confession is real but he knows it just doesn't sound right.

On that note I'm going to bed. I'm not a religious man but I do intend to say a quick "Thank God" it's not with someone like Darla! :eek3:
 
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