Sammy Jankis
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I dont think you can show causality. This also a time of massive idiot outsourcing for all other industries.
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I dont think you can show causality. This also a time of massive idiot outsourcing for all other industries.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Everyone knows what protectionism is. We grew to a world power when we kept our people employed instead of sending wages overseas and losing skills in the process.
Globalization is an attack on the developed world through trade deficits, based on currency manipulation and price gouging in the first world.
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Sammy Jankis
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This comic strip fails as an effective rebuttal to the arguments presented. You know that. I win again.
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That's the estimated number of jobs lost due to the tariffs, not the number of jobs that were lost in that period.
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Britain was the world power during that period, and they completely abolished tariffs from the early 1800's to the early 1900's. Economies can still grow when protectionist policies are in place, but it's in spite of, not because of.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
But they can also grow because of...
During that time they weren't as many overseas wage slave camps open for business either.
We would definitely grow our domestic production and jobs in the current context, if we implement protectionist policies.
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Well, actually the basis of Britian's power in that period was wage slave camps in other parts of the world. Once the imperial model fell apart their power waned significantly.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
So they obviously needed the protectionism, if they fell apart after that.
You're making my case.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Our economy has grown without protectionism, true. but it reaches a tipping point and then ruination occurs.
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Protectionism is definitely needed to stop us from losing jobs.
Let's hear some specifics, with what level of tariff and on what would you start?
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Let's not. You tell me why you believe protectionism cannot work in any way to create jobs.
When did I say that? I simply want to know your plan. What would we protect first? What is most important? How much tariff should we set on it?
If all you have is a vague idea then it can be used as a tool to allow for still more outsourcing of specific jobs, it can be made into a tool of "global fascism".
So, again. Please tell us more, we'd like to hear what you'd start with, how much the tariff should be, and a basic plan to ensure equitable distribution of tariff protection.
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Sammy Jankis
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So then you do believe protectionism could be a useful tool in creating jobs then?
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Im just trying to understand the certainty people have about why protectionism can't work.
The dynamic is obvious. Making imports more expensive makes domestically created products more attractive in the marketplace, boosting domestic job creation.
Nobody has offered a general statement as to why that dynamic doesn't work.
Can you?
It would depend on how it is applied. Care to tell us your priorities? Where should this be applied first?
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Oh really. what are the main factors which would make it successful? Share with us your protectionist ideas, damo.
I guess globalization ain't so inevitable after all.
Crashk
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For a start, if we impose a tariff on any foreign product that is also produced in this country. If a pair of shoes costs a buck here to make and 10 cents in china then there's a 90 cent tariff on their shoes when they enter the country. This would protect our workers and standard of living. It was the law for nearly 200 yrs in this country.