Protectionism saves economies

Sammy Jankis

Sammy Jankis

Was it me?
So now since we see all this globalization bullcrap failing, we should use protectionism to save the economy.

Tariffs and other burdens placed on imports give american made products an edge in the marketplace. Then people buy american and americans get jobs. The money stays in our own economy. And that's smarter than sending all our money overseas just for short term labor cost savings, which are morally dubious anyway.

Why did we start to think it was ok to use slave laborers toiling in an authoritarian regime? We should be fighting that evil, not incentivizing it.

These ideas are correct.
 
What do you believe the first priority should be? Which production needs to be first on the table and why?
 
I don't think it really matters which sectors we begin protecting first.

All at once is probably the best way to go, wouldn't you say, damo?
 
Do you think it is possible?

What about existing trade agreements?

Would our protectionist measures trigger retaliatory moves?
 
Mojo said:
Do you think it is possible?

What about existing trade agreements?

Would our protectionist measures trigger retaliatory moves?
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It is possible.

All trade agreements can be changed.

Retaliatory moves don't matter, our trade deficit is so extreme that merely providing for own needs would be an increased production schedule for most sectors.
 
AssHatZombie said:
It is possible.

All trade agreements can be changed.

Retaliatory moves don't matter, our trade deficit is so extreme that merely providing for own needs would be an increased production schedule for most sectors.
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Is it likely, then?

While all treaties can be repudiated, would that be a wise move?

Are you certain that retaliatory moves wouldn't matter?

What about a massive sell-off of US debt?
 
Mojo said:
Is it likely, then?

While all treaties can be repudiated, would that be a wise move?

Are you certain that retaliatory moves wouldn't matter?

What about a massive sell-off of US debt?
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Rejecting globalist stupidity would the wisest move of all, in all possible spheres of concern.

Do you have any real objections besides the usual "globalism is inevitable" brainwashed slogans?
 
Mojo said:
I have no opinion in the matter, I don't know enough about the issue.

I did some reading after I saw your post.

See what you think:

http://www.idebate.org/debatabase/topic_details.php?topicID=223
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This article is crap.

As evidenced by the following stupidity.

"It is right that a regime’s primary duty of care is to its own people; but prosperity for all is enhanced most by trade liberalisation and comparative advantage, not by vote-chasing."

Yet we're staring at a international financial collapse.

Remember the globalists seek to inculcate dependancy. So if they can reduce nations to nonfunctional deserts of overspecializationation, based on "comparative advantage" twaddle, they will remain dependant on the multinationals and banks for existence.
 
here's another good one

"Worldwide cartels of producers have recently weakened, especially for agricultural goods. For governments to engage in protectionism merely against international cartels is pure hypocrisy; national security will never be gained by the chimera of economic self-sufficiency.

The chimera of economic self-sufficiency? How is that chimeric? Doesn't say.

It is a national security concern to be self reliant in case of some kind of political or technological breakdown. These fascists are desperate.
 
AssHatZombie said:
It is possible.

All trade agreements can be changed.

Retaliatory moves don't matter, our trade deficit is so extreme that merely providing for own needs would be an increased production schedule for most sectors.
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Well it should make you happen to know, then, that since the beginning of the recession our trade deficit HAS BEEN CUT IN HALF!!!! Clearly depressions are a good thing, since they reduce our trade deficit, and that's all that matters.
 
CERVIXCRUSHER9000 said:
Well it should make you happen to know, then, that since the beginning of the recession our trade deficit HAS BEEN CUT IN HALF!!!! Clearly depressions are a good thing, since they reduce our trade deficit, and that's all that matters.
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The lives of regular people matter. we're sending too many jobs overseas. It's simple.
 
CERVIXCRUSHER9000 said:
Well it should make you happen to know, then, that since the beginning of the recession our trade deficit HAS BEEN CUT IN HALF!!!! Clearly depressions are a good thing, since they reduce our trade deficit, and that's all that matters.
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This is news to me. Would you mind sharing the source of this information, please?
 
Damocles said:
Not really, Colorado has huge amounts of newly discovered rare earth elements.
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I just saw a story, dated today, that says "China controls up to 97 percent of global rare earths production"..."The next meaningful supply coming onto the market will be from Australia from Lynas Corp will be on the market in 2012 followed by Molycorp in the US in 2013"

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...e-earth-break-chinas-market-grip-2151827.html

Another repost says ""Molycorp owns the largest known deposits of REE in the United States. Located in Colorado, the mines were a major producer at one time but they were shut down because of low-cost production coming out of China and significant environmental issues.

"Because of the run-up in prices, Molycorp has been raising money, initially from an IPO last year and latterly from loan guarantees from the Department of Energy, and is beginning the process of getting back into production."

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2010/12/03/molycorp-mcp-speculating-on-rare-earth-elements/
 
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AssHatZombie said:
So now since we see all this globalization bullcrap failing, we should use protectionism to save the economy.

Tariffs and other burdens placed on imports give american made products an edge in the marketplace. Then people buy american and americans get jobs. The money stays in our own economy. And that's smarter than sending all our money overseas just for short term labor cost savings, which are morally dubious anyway.

Why did we start to think it was ok to use slave laborers toiling in an authoritarian regime? We should be fighting that evil, not incentivizing it.

These ideas are correct.
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Please, which economies have been saved by protectionism, and when did this occur?
 
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