Is Assange being framed?

Is Assange being framed?

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Mojo said:
So you want him killed?

He has some supporters, it seems.

"Each of the wikileaks revelations has been carefully weighed to ensure there is a public interest in disclosing it. Of the more than 250,000 documents they hold, they have released fewer than 1000 – and each of those has had the names of informants, or any information that could place anyone at risk, removed. The information they have released covers areas where our governments are defying the will of their own citizens, and hiding the proof from them.

Here’s some examples. The Obama administration has been denying that it has expanded the current “war” to yet another country, Yemen. Now we know that is a lie. Ali Abdulah Saleh, the Yemeni dictator, brags in these cables to a US diplomat: “We’ll continue to say the bombs are ours, not yours.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...scure-what-wikileaks-has-told-us-2154109.html
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Wish I could give you 10 thumbs up for that article.

"The cables reveal how this grief and murderous rage is being spread across the Muslim world, while we lie about it. Here’s just one example. US troops blew up an Afghan village called Azizabad, and killed 95 people, 50 of them children. None were al Qaeda, or even Taliban. They knew what they’d done – yet in public they kept insisting they’d killed “militants”, and even accused the local Afghan villagers of “fabricat[ing] such evidence as grave sites.”

Hideous. Shameful. Disgusting. :mad:
 
Mojo said:
You make some good points.

I don't think the two situations are comparable.

I hope I would have the honesty to speak up if I thought the "drug dealer" was framed by the police.

If Assange is to be punished, let it be aboveboard, and let him have a fair hearing.

What's being done to him looks like a kangaroo court. The kind of thing the Communist Chinese do to dissidents. We're supposed to be better than that.

Secretary Gates' statement strikes me as unseemly.
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fair enough...it very well could be...and i agree...it should be aboveboard as you say
 
Lowaicue said:
The evidence, you silly little yank, is staring you in the face.

The British government will NEVER supply an arrested person to any country that still practices the death penalty. I am sure you, as a lawyer (LOL) are well aware of that.

Sweden dropped the case - who do you think 'helped' them change their minds?
However that is evidence and as you must surely know evidence is not proof although when verifiable facts are unavailable a jury might arrive at a verdict based upon evidence and evidence can help substantiate truth.

The claims are not mine, they are widely held claims in all parts of the world save the few streets that you occupy.

Oh, and no, I did not forget what I typed, I am using, for the first time an American computer. I do not understand computers since I do have something of a life and have no idea why it posted twice.

I do hope that clears a couple of things up.
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thats your "evidence"

LOL....that is pure speculation...prosecuters in the US at times drop a case and then open it back up due to NEW evidence...i have no idea what the facts are or if the accusations are true....however, unlike mindless hacks like yourself i am not pretending to know the truth of the matter based on wild speculation and guessing
 
Mojo said:
So you want him killed?

He has some supporters, it seems.

"Each of the wikileaks revelations has been carefully weighed to ensure there is a public interest in disclosing it. Of the more than 250,000 documents they hold, they have released fewer than 1000 – and each of those has had the names of informants, or any information that could place anyone at risk, removed. The information they have released covers areas where our governments are defying the will of their own citizens, and hiding the proof from them.

Here’s some examples. The Obama administration has been denying that it has expanded the current “war” to yet another country, Yemen. Now we know that is a lie. Ali Abdulah Saleh, the Yemeni dictator, brags in these cables to a US diplomat: “We’ll continue to say the bombs are ours, not yours.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinio...scure-what-wikileaks-has-told-us-2154109.html
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I can't speak for what 3D may have meant; but do you even know the difference between "biting the bullet" and "eating a bullet" means??
Before anesthesia doctors would have a patient bite down on something, while doing something painful; but it had to be something that wouldn't break or shatter the patient's teeth.
In the Military, the easiest thing to find was a shell casing; because it was brass, or a lead bullet because lead is a soft metal.
Ergo: "Biting the bullet".

Eating a bullet refers to suicide; because usually, but not always, putting the barrel in your mouth and pulling the trigger resulted in certain death.
 
For clarification, I hope Assange commits suicide, yes.

Now, my coming out with that comment was meant primarily for entertainment value. If Assange can entertain himself by raping women and leaking documents, I can entertain the notion of his suicide. Also, its nice that at least one person got pissed off at me, hence a successful post.
 
Threedee said:
For clarification, I hope Assange commits suicide, yes.

Now, my coming out with that comment was meant primarily for entertainment value. If Assange can entertain himself by raping women and leaking documents, I can entertain the notion of his suicide. Also, its nice that at least one person got pissed off at me, hence a successful post.
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Please use the correct terminology, when wishing harm on someone. :whoa:

The only one that got pissed off was Mojo, so does that really count??
 
Breaking~

(CNN) -- The Poison Pill. The Doomsday Files. Or simply, The Insurance.

Whatever you call the file Julian Assange has threatened to release if he's imprisoned or dies or WikiLeaks is destroyed, it's impossible to stop.

"It's all tech talk to say, 'I have in my hand a button and if I press it or I order my friends to press it, it will go off,'" said Hemu Nigam, who has worked in computer security for more than two decades, in the government and private sector.

"Julian is saying, 'I've calibrated this so that no matter how many ways you try, you're never going to be able to deactivate it,'" Nigam said. "He's sending a call to action to hackers to try it. To the government, he's also saying, 'Try me.'"

Read more about Nigam's experience and the Pentagon's cyber security

There's a reason Assange specifically announced -- on the Web -- that there is a 256-key encryption code that only a few trusted associates know that will unleash the contents of the 1.4 gigabyte-size file.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Please use the correct terminology, when wishing harm on someone. :whoa:

The only one that got pissed off was Mojo, so does that really count??
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I hope I didn't give the impression that I'm "pissed off", because I am not.

What do you think of this?

Assange leads online poll for 'Person of the Year'

"Julian Assange leads an online people's choice as Time magazine's 'Person of the Year' with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and pop singer Lady Gaga well behind him. The 'Person of the Year' will be selected by Time's editors next Wednesday; and the issue with the winner on the cover will appear in the last week of December."


Read more: Howzzat! Assange leads online poll for 'Person of the Year' - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...he-Year/articleshow/7068182.cms#ixzz17YwSO6V1
 
Mojo said:
I hope I didn't give the impression that I'm "pissed off", because I am not.

What do you think of this?

Assange leads online poll for 'Person of the Year'

"Julian Assange leads an online people's choice as Time magazine's 'Person of the Year' with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and pop singer Lady Gaga well behind him. The 'Person of the Year' will be selected by Time's editors next Wednesday; and the issue with the winner on the cover will appear in the last week of December."


Read more: Howzzat! Assange leads online poll for 'Person of the Year' - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...he-Year/articleshow/7068182.cms#ixzz17YwSO6V1
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The crazy idea that he will be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize ain't looking all that crazy any more... Aye carumba!
 
Disclosures of confidential U.S. government documents have stimulated a hot debate in the United States. Are they acts of espionage, terrorism?

The American government seeks to punish Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder. A young U.S. Army intelligence analyst, has also been arrested.

U.S. Congressman Peter King of New York has called for Assange to be charged under the Espionage Act and asked whether WikiLeaks can be designated a terrorist organization.

The U.S. government is also investigating whether Assange can be charged with other crimes such as theft of government property or receipt of stolen government property.

Many have advocated the execution of Assange.

We in China understand the rule of law, and wisely refrain from criticizing the legal processes of sovereign nations.

Perhaps if the Nobel Committee honors Assange, Americans will understand how China views provocative actions designed to elevate criminals.
 
The US has massively lost its way.

It used to support freedom of the press and freedom of speech.

Now Americans call for people to be assassinated if they exercise it.

The US right now is about on a par with China.

Classy.
 
yellow_peril said:
Disclosures of confidential U.S. government documents have stimulated a hot debate in the United States. Are they acts of espionage, terrorism?

The American government seeks to punish Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder. A young U.S. Army intelligence analyst, has also been arrested.

U.S. Congressman Peter King of New York has called for Assange to be charged under the Espionage Act and asked whether WikiLeaks can be designated a terrorist organization.

The U.S. government is also investigating whether Assange can be charged with other crimes such as theft of government property or receipt of stolen government property.

Many have advocated the execution of Assange.

We in China understand the rule of law, and wisely refrain from criticizing the legal processes of sovereign nations.

Perhaps if the Nobel Committee honors Assange, Americans will understand how China views provocative actions designed to elevate criminals.
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There was a joke some years ago which went something like this:
A man was arrested for saying that President XX was crazy. In his defence he told the court that he had heard some other men saying another senior minister (YY) was crazy and they were not arrested.
Ah, said the judge, you breached the state secrets act by saying that XX is crazy, however the other men broke no law as everyone knows that YY is most certainly crazy.

I am sure you remember the joke, it was well known in Beijing and I'm sure you could help by giving names to XX and YY. I have a feeling that one was the little bottle, but I am not sure.
 
christiefan915 said:
Wish I could give you 10 thumbs up for that article.

"The cables reveal how this grief and murderous rage is being spread across the Muslim world, while we lie about it. Here’s just one example. US troops blew up an Afghan village called Azizabad, and killed 95 people, 50 of them children. None were al Qaeda, or even Taliban. They knew what they’d done – yet in public they kept insisting they’d killed “militants”, and even accused the local Afghan villagers of “fabricat[ing] such evidence as grave sites.”

Hideous. Shameful. Disgusting. :mad:
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FUCK, this is the first I have heard of this. Mad does not describe what I am feeling right now, I have to go and compose a letter, not an email, but a letter, I have heard that they get more response.

FUCK
 
AnyOldIron said:
The US has massively lost its way.

It used to support freedom of the press and freedom of speech.

Now Americans call for people to be assassinated if they exercise it.

The US right now is about on a par with China.

Classy.
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Silliness, every nation supports classifications and laws to ensure such classifications. Can you tell me that Britain has no laws to keep their government "secrets"?
 
Damocles said:
Silliness, every nation supports classifications and laws to ensure such classifications. Can you tell me that Britain has no laws to keep their government "secrets"?
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If those secrets were so important then they would have taken much better care of the info. By the way, we reformed the Official Secrets Act as it was as draconian and outdated as the Espionage Act.
 
I just heard that the UN Commissioner for Human Rights stated that the USA should be investigated for human rights violations because the WikiLeaks documents reveal US war crimes.
 
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