Hawaii's New Governor Takes Up the Fight Against Birthers

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Hawaii's New Governor Takes Up the Fight Against Birthers

WASHINGTON, DC – On Friday, The New York Times reported that Neil Abercrombie, the new Democratic governor of Hawaii, plans to take aggressive steps to address the "birther" movement--the conspiracy theorists who believe Barack Obama was born overseas rather than in the United States. The Obama campaign has already posted a certificate of birth from the Hawaii Department of Health on its Web site, and two independent fact-checking organizations have verified its legitimacy, but Abercrombie is trying to get additional documentation released that would further prove that the president was born in a Honolulu hospital. Here's a look at some of the reactions to Abercrombie's anti-birther campaign.


For Abercrombie, It's Personal "It's an insult to [Obama's] mother and to his father, and I knew his mother and father; they were my friends, and I have an emotional interest in that," the governor told the Times. "It's an emotional insult. It is disrespectful to the president; it is disrespectful to the office ... There's no reason on earth to have the memory of his parents insulted by people whose motivation is solely political."


Might Do More Harm Than Good Politico's Carol Lee writes that Abercrombie's efforts "could backfire," noting that "releasing additional documentation about Obama's birth in Honolulu--which has been independently verified--could do more to stir up the 'birthers' than quiet them down. The movement has used such documentation in the past to bolster their conspiracy theory."

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How the Birther Debate Drains State Resources The Honolulu Star-Advertiser reports that "fielding questions about Obama's birth still takes a toll on the Health Department's communication and vital-records offices, which are required by law to respond within 10 days. At least two staffers spend an hour a day handling requests for Obama birth records, a department official said. They also have to interpret unclear or perplexing requests, sometimes seeking opinions from attorneys at the attorney general's office and the state Office of Information Practices."

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you would think obama would want to stop wasteful spending and just have hawaii pull the original and show it to the cameras...
 
you would think obama would want to stop wasteful spending and just have hawaii pull the original and show it to the cameras...

Why would he do that when he can continue to get mileage and score points off of idiots who refuse to believe the truth?

If I was Obama, I'd stay silent and let the shrieks and howls continue to escalate and only THEN would I prove their crazy rantings false.
 
you would think obama would want to stop wasteful spending and just have hawaii pull the original and show it to the cameras...

Haven't they already done something to that effect? I don't think there's anything that can be done to satisfy a birther. This governor is an idiot for believing he can, and for wasting taxpayer dollars and government resources in the process.
 
Haven't they already done something to that effect? I don't think there's anything that can be done to satisfy a birther. This governor is an idiot for believing he can, and for wasting taxpayer dollars and government resources in the process.

no they haven't...and if you read the last paragraph, you'll see that everyday tax dollars are being spent on this because people are requesting information about the original....

if they show the original, there is nothing else to show and nothing else for the state to ever do regarding the issue
 
no they haven't...and if you read the last paragraph, you'll see that everyday tax dollars are being spent on this because people are requesting information about the original....

if they show the original, there is nothing else to show and nothing else for the state to ever do regarding the issue

Blogger Zandar at No More Mister Nice Blog bristles at the notion that the birth question has been settled. The author writes. "More power to the good Governor, since there's tens of millions of Americans who will never believe it anyway."

It won't EVER stop no matter what this Administration provides...this guy admits as much.
 
Blogger Zandar at No More Mister Nice Blog bristles at the notion that the birth question has been settled. The author writes. "More power to the good Governor, since there's tens of millions of Americans who will never believe it anyway."

It won't EVER stop no matter what this Administration provides...this guy admits as much.

that proves nothing and is meaningless
 
It PROVES that particular blogger and millions just like him won't believe anything that disproves their ridiculous assumption.

lmao...it proves nothing, and the blogger doesn't say he believes that, he only OPINES that many won't believe it

sorry dude, opinions are not facts

i think the governor wants to show it as he knows this will help or outright end this nonsense....you're just having a hissy fit and trying to pass off opinions as facts
 
lmao...it proves nothing, and the blogger doesn't say he believes that, he only OPINES that many won't believe it

sorry dude, opinions are not facts

i think the governor wants to show it as he knows this will help or outright end this nonsense....you're just having a hissy fit and trying to pass off opinions as facts

Right...so now pointing out that no amount of evidence will placate a particular segment of the birther crowd is equivalent to "having a hissy fit".

Your need to resort to ridiculous hyperbole knows no bounds, does it?
 
Birth certificates are not a matter of public record out here. And as a matter of course, why should they make an exception with this one to appease a bunch of retarded mouth breathers who will claim its a fake anyway?
 
Birth certificates are not a matter of public record out here. And as a matter of course, why should they make an exception with this one to appease a bunch of retarded mouth breathers who will claim its a fake anyway?
Exception? Nobody suggested that they break their law, they suggested that Obama could save that state some deneg if he just signed the stuff to make that record public. It's not like some idiot is going to steal his identity.
 
Birth certificates are not a matter of public record out here. And as a matter of course, why should they make an exception with this one to appease a bunch of retarded mouth breathers who will claim its a fake anyway?

EXACTLY!

The instant he produces his "long form" certificate, birthers will simply move the goal posts once again and claim it's a fake too.
 
Neil Abercrombie, the new Democratic governor of Hawaii, plans to take aggressive steps to address the "birther" movement--the conspiracy theorists who believe Barack Obama was born overseas rather than in the United States.


This guy is just freakin' desperate....I guess he wants to make a name for himself because no body knows or CARES who the hell he is....
Does a "birther movement" actually exist? or is this just a figment of the far left imagination....
There are claims of a "large following", but I see no evidence of its actual existence.....
seems there are far more nuts in the "9/11 was an inside job caused by Bush/Cheney" crowd....
 
Right...so now pointing out that no amount of evidence will placate a particular segment of the birther crowd is equivalent to "having a hissy fit".

Your need to resort to ridiculous hyperbole knows no bounds, does it?

your hissy fit was claiming it was PROOF....not evidence
 
Birth certificates are not a matter of public record out here. And as a matter of course, why should they make an exception with this one to appease a bunch of retarded mouth breathers who will claim its a fake anyway?

no one said make an exception...i said obama should just allow them to show the original and then hawaii can stop getting requests everyday that causes them to spend time (eg, state money) answering each request about obama's original birthcertificate

How the Birther Debate Drains State Resources The Honolulu Star-Advertiser reports that "fielding questions about Obama's birth still takes a toll on the Health Department's communication and vital-records offices, which are required by law to respond within 10 days. At least two staffers spend an hour a day handling requests for Obama birth records, a department official said. They also have to interpret unclear or perplexing requests, sometimes seeking opinions from attorneys at the attorney general's office and the state Office of Information Practices."

this isn't to appease birthers, this is to simply put an end to this nonsense and obama could do it

if they show the original...there are no other questions to be asked
 
all I know is, the post office required a certified birth certificate just so I could get a passport....I say let him be president, but don't let him have a passport....at the very least it will save taxpayers a bundle in traveling expenses.....and with any luck, it might keep him from getting back into the country the next time he decides to go somewhere.....
 
all I know is, the post office required a certified birth certificate just so I could get a passport....I say let him be president, but don't let him have a passport....at the very least it will save taxpayers a bundle in traveling expenses.....and with any luck, it might keep him from getting back into the country the next time he decides to go somewhere.....

He be flying into air force bases, where he doesn't go through customs.
 
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