No embarrassment, why would I be embarrassed, I come here to learn, not to impress everyone with my VAST knowledge like you do.
Protester disrupts House over Obama's birthplace
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No embarrassment, why would I be embarrassed, I come here to learn, not to impress everyone with my VAST knowledge like you do.
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you really need to stop projecting your inadequacies onto others
christiefan915
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April Fool!
The Occidental Tourist
Claim: Recently released records document that Barack Obama received college financial aid in the U.S. as a "foreign student from Indonesia."
FALSE
Origins: One of the avenues of approach taken by "birthers" in their quest to demonstrate that Barack Obama is not eligible to hold the office of President of the United States is to try to demonstrate that, even if he was born in the United States, he gave up his U.S. citizenship somewhere along the way ... and if he's not a U.S. citizen, then he can't legitimately be President of the United States. Therefore, many birthers have gleefully seized onto the above-cited news report from April 2009, which purports that Barack Obama attended Occidental College in Los Angeles under a scholarship granted only to students of "foreign citizenship." However, this item isn't a news report at all — it's a hoax whose elements are all demonstrably false:
* The article is datelined "April 1, 2009" and tagged "AP," signifying it came from the Associated Press news agency. The date is a giveaway to the hoax (it's April Fool's Day), and the text of the article does not at all fit the standard Associated Press stylebook guidelines.
* There was no such group as "Americans for Freedom of Information" at the time this article began circulating (although someone has since registered a site using that domain name); in fact, a web site for the then-faux organization was established to poke fun at those who believed it did:
Read these tiny words very closely: the group Americans for Freedom of Information does not exist, just like the supposed "AP article" you keep cutting and pasting into e-mails to your irritated family does not exist, just like the "Daily Mail article" referenced in the fake "AP article" does not exist. They're all fabrications. Fakes. Hoaxes. Ask yourself why you're so eager to believe these obvious fakes. No, really. Really, really ask yourself.
* Barack Obama attended Occidental College in California for two years as an undergraduate from 1979-81 under the name Obama, not Soetoro (the latter is the surname of his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro):
Jim Tranquada, Occidental's Director of Communications, said: "Contemporary public documents, such as the 1979-80 freshman 'Lookbook' [a guide distributed to incoming freshman] published at the beginning of President Obama's first year at Occidental, list him as Barack Obama. All of the Occidental alumni I have spoken to from that era (1979-81) who knew him, knew him as Barry Obama."
* Fulbright scholarships for foreign students are coordinated through the American Indonesian Exchange Foundation (AMINEF), which does not fund Indonesians for undergraduate study in the United States (only for master's or doctorate programs).
* Barack Obama's student records from Occidental College remain unreleased. He has not chosen to make them public, nor has any court ordered the school to release them.
* Searches of newspaper archives and electronic news databases shown that neither Britain's Daily Mail nor any other major UK newspaper published a front-page article entitled "Obama Eligibility Questioned" in 2009, nor did any such newspaper published an article consisting of the text reproduced above.
* Leo Donofrio's lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency was denied a hearing by the Supreme Court of New Jersey back in December 2008. It has not been taken up by the U.S. Supreme Court.
* The web site of the United States Justice Foundation includes no report of an "investigation of Obama's campaign spending," and the executive director of that organization who is referenced in the e-mail, Gary Kreep, said in response to an inquiry that the e-mail was a hoax.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp
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i've told you enough times, if you haven't figured it out yet, you're hopeless
and my week was just fine, again, you're talking nonsense and likely projecting as usual
you should really knock off the attacks and try to actually debate something
i've told you enough times, if you haven't figured it out yet, you're hopeless
and my week was just fine, again, you're talking nonsense and likely projecting as usual
you should really knock off the attacks and try to actually debate something
Attacks? Do you think you're being attacked a lot or something?
That's odd....
Paranoia does that to a person.
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did you really ask that? completely different situations and you know it....but i know the race card is coming...any day now...but you forget mccain
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Here is the old law:
http://theobamafile.com/_images/HawaiiRuleThree.jpg
And the recently revised requirements:
http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
An excellent summary of the issues: http://theobamafile.com/ObamaCOLB.htm
WOW! This certainly sheds some interesting light onto the whole birther matter eh?
christiefan915
Catalyst
Inductive reasoning, isn't it wonderful.
"The Obama File Archive is an open website that documents the life and times of Barack Hussein Obama II. It is a responsible, opposition resource. I have no requirement to be "fair and balanced." I am only obliged to avoid ugly rumors and anti-social expression.
I don't write this this stuff. I cherry-pick it and archive it here. All items posted to The Obama File are from mainstream media sources and responsible, if partisan, blogs, except items identified as "Opinion."
He has never heard of it, you will have to forgive him.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Birthers start out with the conclusion that Obama has something to hide, then they cherry pick info to support it while ignoring everything that doesn't fit.
Proof of eligibility for Hawaiian home lands and proof of citizenship are two very different things.
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you're here, so i guess so
He was born on a US military base to US citizens...making him a naturalized citizen. Can you show 1. how that is equal to what Obama's critics have leveled against him? or 2. how that could possibly bring McCains citizenship into question?