Jerry Brown's budget for California is 'honest' and 'very painful'

Damocles said:
Yeah, but Ahnold is a republican and thus had a hard time getting the legislation to go with those cuts. Maybe a sane democrat can actually get it done.
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That's why I posted the link where state senator Mark Leno basically admitted as much.
 
cawacko said:
Brown has always been known as a frugal guy. He lives his life very frugally. I like his phone proposal. It ultimately is going to come down to how willing is he to face off with the public employee pensions and the unfunded liabilities? It could be one of those Nixon to China moments where only a Democrat can negotiate that in this state. If that is the case then I'm rooting for Brown to do it.
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i really hope he can fix the pensions, its out of control

whats your opinion of the temp 5 year taxes?
 
Yurt said:
i really hope he can fix the pensions, its out of control

whats your opinion of the temp 5 year taxes?
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honestly not really a big fan because like a lot of temporary taxes they get extended and then end up being made permanent. Now I will say if there was a huge deal negotiated that included major pension reform and it had tax increases involved I'd be a lot more open to it.
 
cawacko said:
honestly not really a big fan because like a lot of temporary taxes they get extended and then end up being made permanent. Now I will say if there was a huge deal negotiated that included major pension reform and it had tax increases involved I'd be a lot more open to it.
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i agree on all counts....if we get reform and the taxes, they have to automatically end, period. to extend them, they would have to go through the same VOTER process, but they have to expressly have an end date, no loopholes, no assembly action, end.
 
Rana said:
Which one? I have always been curious about them.
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I have to laugh now that Brown is governor, cutting welfare, medical payments, daycare and all the rest of the bullshit we give away is OK in the eyes of liberals. When Arnold tried to do it, you would have thought the end of the world was near.
 
webbway said:
I have to laugh now that Brown is governor, cutting welfare, medical payments, daycare and all the rest of the bullshit we give away is OK in the eyes of liberals. When Arnold tried to do it, you would have thought the end of the world was near.
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yep...in fact i talking with someone about his campaign and i said, he is running a fairly conservative campaign, but maybe thats a good thing because then the liberals will cut government and the over bloated budget because they only listen to their fellow party and must halt anything like that if a repub does it

then again, both parties do that and that is why i am moving towards the middle or independent, i'm pretty much done with the repubs, was a dem before....until i got a higher education and started making money :D
 
Threedee said:
12/21/2012 - the end IS near. :D
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The Annunaki are coming. Be prepared.

Stock up the beer fridge. Perhaps a little herb. Definitely something for the munchies.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-zTZWabSs"]YouTube - Be Prepared For 2012 - The Annunaki Taught The Summerians[/ame]
 
He will never be Back!

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This republican a$$hole left office with a 25 Billion Dollar Deficit! This sh*t happens, when you cut taxes instead of raising them! This country is headed down the same slippery slope too!
 
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