Looks Like Gaddafi is History

I wouldn't have thought Obama would be a party to helping assassinate some other countrys leader....
 
And I would like to repeat my advice to Gaddafi to get on a plane and fly to the Hague before he finds himself hanging from a gallows. This is a futile battle and it always was.
 
Looks like Gaddafi's son has been captured.


Libyan rebels have told Sky News that Saif Al-Islam, Colonel Gaddafi's son, has been captured as the end of the regime appears to draw ever closer.

The claims come as rebels make rapid advances into the centre of Tripoli, meeting scenes of jubilation and no resistance from Gaddafi's troops along the way.
Sky's special correspondent Alex Crawford, accompanying the rebels, said as opposition fighters entered the city, their cars gridlocked the roads and hundreds of people came out onto the streets to greet them.
The rebels responded with celebratory gunfire, she said.
"These scenes are amazing - there are hundreds of people who have come out onto the streets to greet this convoy of rebel soldiers.
"You can hear them singing and dancing, it is an amazing scene.
"We are now just a very short distance from the centre, with more and more people are coming onto the streets.
"They (the rebels) had been expecting much more resistance but there has been very little."
"There is absolutely no question in their minds that they have beaten Gaddafi and it is just a question of how he will go," she added.
The quick advance came after the fighters captured the base of the Khamis Brigade, 16 miles west of the capital.
It is said to be one of the best-trained and equipped units in the Libyan military and is commanded by Col Gaddafi's 27-year-old son Khamis.
Aside from the main rebel movement from the west of the city, fighting also broke out in the city's Mitiga airbase, while the suburb of Tajoura reportedly also fell under rebel control.
Gunfire was also heard near the hotel where foreign media are staying.
As the rebel movement came closer to the capital, Col Gaddafi broadcast a message on state television calling on Libyan people to come from all regions and liberate Tripoli.
He said he was "afraid Tripoli will burn" but that he will remain in the city until the end.
The Libyan government also earlier appealed for an immediate ceasefire and an end to Nato's "aggression".
Spokesman for Colonel Muammar Gaddafi's regime, Moussa Ibrahim, told reporters the rebels were nothing without Nato and they would never be able to take Libya.
"Tripoli is well protected and we have thousands upon thousands of professional soldiers ready to defend this city against any possible invasion by rebels under the cover of Nato."
He added: "What is happening now and what is going to happen is not the power of the rebels.
"It is the power of Nato - a major force for evil that has no heart, using armed gangs to occupy a whole nation."
Rebels initially advancing on the capital came under sniper fire at the western gate of Tripoli, forcing them to retreat slightly.
They then advanced again, taking in several towns along the way and then staged large protests around the city.
:: Rebel fighters have also reportedly been engaged in gun battles in the town of Assadah, south of Gharyan, around 65 miles south of Tripoli.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/explosions-tripoli-rebels-advance-043005225.html
 
The rebels have a lot of heavy armament support for the assault. They're gonna win. I called this back in March by the way.

As an aside, I am interested to know where the expression 'I called something..' originated. Would it be from the caller at a barn dance or has it sporting beginnings? We don't use it.
 
As an aside, I am interested to know where the expression 'I called something..' originated. Would it be from the caller at a barn dance or has it sporting beginnings? We don't use it.

It is the uncouth Yank way of taking credit for having accurately predicted a turn of events they don't comprehend in locales they are unfamiliar with, I believe. Normally reserved for boasting.
 
I think it comes from the stock market, could be wrong.

This might be the answer (if anyone gives a damn). It stems from 1823 and was used as 'to call out someone to fight' or the French 'provoqueur'.
So, by extension 'I called him out on it' I challenged him or I provoked him.
'I called this back in March', I challenged or dared this result back in March.
Don't you love our crazy language.
Sorry to be such a bore.
 
I would root for the people of Libya, but I fear they'll simply be ruled by a more Muslim government that still hates America. It's hard to choose between Gaddafi and Al Qaeda...
 
I would root for the people of Libya, but I fear they'll simply be ruled by a more Muslim government that still hates America. It's hard to choose between Gaddafi and Al Qaeda...
Ya know Damo, for nearly a century we have meddled in Middle Eastern affairs because our government fears democracy in the middle east because it would not be pro American. We have promoted dictators like Hussein and the Shaw and other ruthless despots over freedom because some gutless yellow bellies are afraid of frreedom in the middle east. We have seen first hand where that short sighed mentality has gotten us and it's staggering cost and the burdon of hatred towars us that it has justifiably created.

You may fear a muslim government that isn't pro America. I'm not losing any sleep over it. We can take care of our selves and freedom, as we've seen this very remarkable year, finds a way!

I hope nothing but the best for a new Libyan democracy and I do not fear that their government will look after the best interest of Libyans and not America. That's the way it ought to be.
 
Ya know Damo, for nearly a century we have meddled in Middle Eastern affairs because our government fears democracy in the middle east because it would not be pro American. We have promoted dictators like Hussein and the Shaw and other ruthless despots over freedom because some gutless yellow bellies are afraid of frreedom in the middle east. We have seen first hand where that short sighed mentality has gotten us and it's staggering cost and the burdon of hatred towars us that it has justifiably created.

You may fear a muslim government that isn't pro America. I'm not losing any sleep over it. We can take care of our selves and freedom, as we've seen this very remarkable year, finds a way!

I hope nothing but the best for a new Libyan democracy and I do not fear that their government will look after the best interest of Libyans and not America. That's the way it ought to be.

I don't think that benevolence is enough of a reason to exchange one overbearing government for one of a different type. While I agree we should get out of the ME and meddling in their affairs, I think that this meddling won't change anything at all. We bombed more brown people by remote control, do you remember when that caused "terrorism" or is it okay of it is a D by the name of the President?

It's stupid to say it is okay here to replace a dictator with some other dictatorial government that hates us equally as much as the previous one, but IMO it was not worth the treasure we spent to do that. We need to spend that money building the new infrastructure for US energy concerns to get us off foreign oil and end our interest in this portion of the world. Saying, "It's all good because this time we didn't choose the leader," is, IMO, ignorant of the history of the region. End our interest there, that will actually do something.
 
I don't think that benevolence is enough of a reason to exchange one overbearing government for one of a different type. While I agree we should get out of the ME and meddling in their affairs, I think that this meddling won't change anything at all. We bombed more brown people by remote control, do you remember when that caused "terrorism" or is it okay of it is a D by the name of the President?

It's stupid to say it is okay here to replace a dictator with some other dictatorial government that hates us equally as much as the previous one, but IMO it was not worth the treasure we spent to do that. We need to spend that money building the new infrastructure for US energy concerns to get us off foreign oil and end our interest in this portion of the world. Saying, "It's all good because this time we didn't choose the leader," is, IMO, ignorant of the history of the region. End our interest there, that will actually do something.
Well I agree with that sentiment but what does that have to do with democratization of the ME? Or hell, even regime change in Libya for that matter?
 
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