Blacks And Politics

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At one of last month's Congressional Black Caucus-sponsored "job fairs," Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., told the audience: "This is the effort that we're seeing of Jim Crow. Some of these folks in Congress right now would love to see us as second-class citizens. Some of them in Congress right now with this tea party movement would love to see you and me -- I'm sorry, Tamron -- hanging on a tree." Carson's reference to Tamron was acknowledgment of the presence of MSNBC's black reporter Tamron Hall, who didn't deem it fit to report the congressman's statement. Another black attacker of the tea party movement is Rep. Maxine Waters, who told her constituents: "This is a tough game. You can't be intimidated. You can't be frightened. And as far as I'm concerned, the tea party can go straight to hell." "Let us all remember who the real enemy is. And the real enemy is the tea party," reminded Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla. The Rev. Jesse Jackson said the tea party should be called the "Fort Sumter tea party that sought to maintain states' rights and slavery." Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla., in telling a job fair audience to register to vote, said, "Turn the tea party upside down!"

What about Hastings' call for blacks to register to vote? What has it meant? For several decades, blacks have held significant political power, in the form of being mayors and dominant forces on city councils in our major cities, including Philadelphia, Detroit, Washington, Memphis, Atlanta, Baltimore, New Orleans, Oakland, Newark, Cincinnati and many others. In most of these cities, blacks have served as school superintendents, school principals and chiefs of police. Plus, there's precedent setting black political power at the national level, with 39 black congressmen and a black president.

Here's my question: What would you think of someone who claimed that black political power has yielded great results? In these cities where blacks dominate the political machinery, black academic proficiency is on a par with the rest of the nation. Black families are more stable and illegitimacy and welfare dependency are much lower than they were when whites dominated the political machinery of these cities. Also, since blacks have replaced white mayors and city councils, black citizens are murdered less and are far safer on the streets and in their homes. Even more noticeable is the fall in unemployment, particularly since the nation elected a black president. You say, "Williams, anyone making such statements suffers from a special kind of lunacy and ought to be put into an insane asylum!"

It doesn't demean black political achievement to ask what black political power means for the lives of ordinary black people. Put another way, is political power a necessary condition for economic power? Let's look around.

Japanese- and Chinese-Americans faced gross discrimination in our country, but when's the last time you heard them worrying about how many mayors and congressmen they have? Are they in a tizzy over the tea party's call for constitutional government, reduced spending and a balanced budget? By the way, Japanese- and Chinese-Americans have median family incomes higher than white Americans despite having no political power, even in areas where they are most numerous.

Let me be clear. I am not stating a causal link between the fact of black political power and the poor living conditions of so many blacks in our urban centers. I'm simply offering evidence that the expectation that black political power will translate into socio-economic well-being for the ordinary black citizen is apt to be disappointing. Political power empowers -- and even enriches -- the political elite; for them, getting out their constituent vote is the be-all and end-all. It's the economic arena, featured by personal liberty, that best serves the ordinary person.

As long as black politicians can successfully run a rope-a-dope on their constituents by keeping them focused on allegations of white racism and telling them that salvation lies in voting for them, little good will come to their poorest constituency.

http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2011/09/07/blacks_and_politics
 
At one of last month's Congressional Black Caucus-sponsored "job fairs," Rep. Andre Carson, D-Ind., told the audience: "This is the effort that we're seeing of Jim Crow. Some of these folks in Congress right now would love to see us as second-class citizens. Some of them in Congress right now with this tea party movement would love to see you and me -- I'm sorry, Tamron -- hanging on a tree." Carson's reference to Tamron was acknowledgment of the presence of MSNBC's black reporter Tamron Hall, who didn't deem it fit to report the congressman's statement. Another black attacker of the tea party movement is Rep. Maxine Waters, who told her constituents: "This is a tough game. You can't be intimidated. You can't be frightened. And as far as I'm concerned, the tea party can go straight to hell." "Let us all remember who the real enemy is. And the real enemy is the tea party," reminded Rep. Frederica Wilson, D-Fla. The Rev. Jesse Jackson said the tea party should be called the "Fort Sumter tea party that sought to maintain states' rights and slavery." Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla., in telling a job fair audience to register to vote, said, "Turn the tea party upside down!"

What about Hastings' call for blacks to register to vote? What has it meant? For several decades, blacks have held significant political power, in the form of being mayors and dominant forces on city councils in our major cities, including Philadelphia, Detroit, Washington, Memphis, Atlanta, Baltimore, New Orleans, Oakland, Newark, Cincinnati and many others. In most of these cities, blacks have served as school superintendents, school principals and chiefs of police. Plus, there's precedent setting black political power at the national level, with 39 black congressmen and a black president.

Here's my question: What would you think of someone who claimed that black political power has yielded great results? In these cities where blacks dominate the political machinery, black academic proficiency is on a par with the rest of the nation. Black families are more stable and illegitimacy and welfare dependency are much lower than they were when whites dominated the political machinery of these cities. Also, since blacks have replaced white mayors and city councils, black citizens are murdered less and are far safer on the streets and in their homes. Even more noticeable is the fall in unemployment, particularly since the nation elected a black president. You say, "Williams, anyone making such statements suffers from a special kind of lunacy and ought to be put into an insane asylum!"

It doesn't demean black political achievement to ask what black political power means for the lives of ordinary black people. Put another way, is political power a necessary condition for economic power? Let's look around.

Japanese- and Chinese-Americans faced gross discrimination in our country, but when's the last time you heard them worrying about how many mayors and congressmen they have? Are they in a tizzy over the tea party's call for constitutional government, reduced spending and a balanced budget? By the way, Japanese- and Chinese-Americans have median family incomes higher than white Americans despite having no political power, even in areas where they are most numerous.

Let me be clear. I am not stating a causal link between the fact of black political power and the poor living conditions of so many blacks in our urban centers. I'm simply offering evidence that the expectation that black political power will translate into socio-economic well-being for the ordinary black citizen is apt to be disappointing. Political power empowers -- and even enriches -- the political elite; for them, getting out their constituent vote is the be-all and end-all. It's the economic arena, featured by personal liberty, that best serves the ordinary person.

As long as black politicians can successfully run a rope-a-dope on their constituents by keeping them focused on allegations of white racism and telling them that salvation lies in voting for them, little good will come to their poorest constituency.

http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2011/09/07/blacks_and_politics

First of all, that you would post an article from "right wing propaganda rag", Townhall.com, is bad enough....but to equate the power held, collectively, with that held by whites is simply ridiculous. And to be written by one of the higher ranking Uncle Toms, Walter Williams, is the height of hilarity and hypocrisy. As if his "black" voice, lends credibility to the conservative cause, which, in and of itself, is 'anti-black", "anti-poor", and 'anti-immigrant".
A black presieent? Really? Who has been called everything but a "child of God"...attacked and rebuffed, at every turn...accused of being everything, from the reincarnation of Hitler, to being complicit in the attacks on 9/11, and a supporter of radical Islam. Right. That's some accomplishment for him. I bet he wishes he hadn't run, for all the backlash he's received. And you know what? It turns my stomach. There is nothing to be proud of here. To see my countrymen, act like damn fools and hateful evil demons, directing vitriol and hate toward a legitimate and duly elected President of the United States of America...simply, and mainly, because he has "black skin"???????????????????????????????? I'm ashamed to be called an American. But before you get to suggesting that I go elsewhere, let me inform you that I am a native born citizen, with all of the rights guaranteed by the Constitution, as you are....and I have a right to dissent. Before I go anywhere, I'll see to it that laws are abided by...that rights are protected, and that forces intent on destroying this country are dissolved and rendered inert. I want my country back. Back from crazies, racists, bigots, fake Christians, retards, and war mongers.

Japanese and Chinese Americans?????????? Excuse me, but though they were discriminated, and forced to do slave labor, constructing railroads in the late 19th and early 20th century, they didn't endure chattal slavery that African-Americans endured. A whole 'nother ball game. And you can attempt to minimize it if you want to. But our right to be here, and represented , in all walks of life, industry and power, is unquestionable. America wouldn't be America without black people. Our contributions are too numerous to recount.
And the only way power is to be realized is to be wrested from those who abuse it, or to neutralize it by depriving it of lifeblood...."finances". Now, debate that.
 
First of all, that you would post an article from "right wing propaganda rag", Townhall.com, is bad enough....but to equate the power held, collectively, with that held by whites is simply ridiculous. And to be written by one of the higher ranking Uncle Toms, Walter Williams, is the height of hilarity and hypocrisy. As if his "black" voice, lends credibility to the conservative cause, which, in and of itself, is 'anti-black", "anti-poor", and 'anti-immigrant".
A black presieent? Really? Who has been called everything but a "child of God"...attacked and rebuffed, at every turn...accused of being everything, from the reincarnation of Hitler, to being complicit in the attacks on 9/11, and a supporter of radical Islam. Right. That's some accomplishment for him. I bet he wishes he hadn't run, for all the backlash he's received. And you know what? It turns my stomach. There is nothing to be proud of here. To see my countrymen, act like damn fools and hateful evil demons, directing vitriol and hate toward a legitimate and duly elected President of the United States of America...simply, and mainly, because he has "black skin"???????????????????????????????? I'm ashamed to be called an American. But before you get to suggesting that I go elsewhere, let me inform you that I am a native born citizen, with all of the rights guaranteed by the Constitution, as you are....and I have a right to dissent. Before I go anywhere, I'll see to it that laws are abided by...that rights are protected, and that forces intent on destroying this country are dissolved and rendered inert. I want my country back. Back from crazies, racists, bigots, fake Christians, retards, and war mongers.

Japanese and Chinese Americans?????????? Excuse me, but though they were discriminated, and forced to do slave labor, constructing railroads in the late 19th and early 20th century, they didn't endure chattal slavery that African-Americans endured. A whole 'nother ball game. And you can attempt to minimize it if you want to. But our right to be here, and represented , in all walks of life, industry and power, is unquestionable. America wouldn't be America without black people. Our contributions are too numerous to recount.
And the only way power is to be realized is to be wrested from those who abuse it, or to neutralize it by depriving it of lifeblood...."finances". Now, debate that.

As stated before.... the above is proof you are a racist piece of shit. Any black that disagrees with you is an 'uncle tom'. Then you go on to state that Obama is criticized 'simply and mainly because he has black skin'. That is absurd. He is criticized because his policies have failed. He is criticized because he is an ineffective leader. Or do you think that because he is black people shouldn't be able to criticize him?

Keep in mind.... Bush was the one accused of being Hitler, accused of 'allowing 9/11 to occur, and called every name in the book from the left. So it is quite odd that you would think Obama is being treated poorly just because of pigmentation. But then, you do focus on race a lot. Side note: I would like to know more about who accused Obama of being complicit in the attacks on 9/11. Given that he was a community organizer at the time, I find that bizarre that anyone would have stated anything of the kind and would be interested in seeing where you got that from.
 
First of all, that you would post an article from "right wing propaganda rag", Townhall.com, is bad enough....but to equate the power held, collectively, with that held by whites is simply ridiculous. And to be written by one of the higher ranking Uncle Toms, Walter Williams, is the height of hilarity and hypocrisy. As if his "black" voice, lends credibility to the conservative cause, which, in and of itself, is 'anti-black", "anti-poor", and 'anti-immigrant".
A black presieent? Really? Who has been called everything but a "child of God"...attacked and rebuffed, at every turn...accused of being everything, from the reincarnation of Hitler, to being complicit in the attacks on 9/11, and a supporter of radical Islam. Right. That's some accomplishment for him. I bet he wishes he hadn't run, for all the backlash he's received. And you know what? It turns my stomach. There is nothing to be proud of here. To see my countrymen, act like damn fools and hateful evil demons, directing vitriol and hate toward a legitimate and duly elected President of the United States of America...simply, and mainly, because he has "black skin"???????????????????????????????? I'm ashamed to be called an American. But before you get to suggesting that I go elsewhere, let me inform you that I am a native born citizen, with all of the rights guaranteed by the Constitution, as you are....and I have a right to dissent. Before I go anywhere, I'll see to it that laws are abided by...that rights are protected, and that forces intent on destroying this country are dissolved and rendered inert. I want my country back. Back from crazies, racists, bigots, fake Christians, retards, and war mongers.

Japanese and Chinese Americans?????????? Excuse me, but though they were discriminated, and forced to do slave labor, constructing railroads in the late 19th and early 20th century, they didn't endure chattal slavery that African-Americans endured. A whole 'nother ball game. And you can attempt to minimize it if you want to. But our right to be here, and represented , in all walks of life, industry and power, is unquestionable. America wouldn't be America without black people. Our contributions are too numerous to recount.
And the only way power is to be realized is to be wrested from those who abuse it, or to neutralize it by depriving it of lifeblood...."finances". Now, debate that.

Debate this guy
http://www.youtube.com/user/theblacksphere01?blend=8&ob=5#p/u/11/k6auG2EyFEw
 
A quote is a quote no shock poet n doesn't dissown it. Houdpston public school upbringing. He didn't make it as a regular thug, so he thugs out on weaker gays.
 
As stated before.... the above is proof you are a racist piece of shit. Any black that disagrees with you is an 'uncle tom'. Then you go on to state that Obama is criticized 'simply and mainly because he has black skin'. That is absurd. He is criticized because his policies have failed. He is criticized because he is an ineffective leader. Or do you think that because he is black people shouldn't be able to criticize him?

Keep in mind.... Bush was the one accused of being Hitler, accused of 'allowing 9/11 to occur, and called every name in the book from the left. So it is quite odd that you would think Obama is being treated poorly just because of pigmentation. But then, you do focus on race a lot. Side note: I would like to know more about who accused Obama of being complicit in the attacks on 9/11. Given that he was a community organizer at the time, I find that bizarre that anyone would have stated anything of the kind and would be interested in seeing where you got that from.

Oh, wow. I'm so offended. Any black that disagrees with me? It's not a question of "disagreeing with me". It's violating the trust and shitting on the legacy of the black community. Walter "Goddamn" Williams had forebearers that were slaves, by default...so, for him to sit up here and lecture me, and other blacks, on how we should accept anything that any white folks are promoting (i.e. the conservative movement..the Republican Party (which cares nothing for minorities, to begin with)...tea party-ism, which is simply "I-can't stand-that-a-black-man-is-in-the-friggin-white-house'), contrary to our "best interests" (assuming we have no brains, are robots, and perpetually do not work and have our hands out, throwing back a 40 oz. and scratching our butts), ain't happening.

If it's so absurd, the notion that Barack Obama is not only being criticized for his black skin, but in danger of being assassinated, in numbers and incidents "unprecedented", then explain how it's not. Prove that it's not his race or ethnicity, but his policies that you are against. Beyond the shadow of a doubt. The problem lies in that who is to believe you? Why should you be believed...that you are critical, on the sole basis of his policies, and not his race...when there is evidence, and plenty of it, from tea party rallies, to the cover of The New Yorker, and countless emails to the contrary?

And give me a fucking break. Wasn't Bush white? Wasn't Hitler white? Hitler was adamant in his hatred of the Jews, whom he held responsible for Germany's demise. Mighty funny, Muslims are America's bane. And there are those of you who would see them wiped from the face of the Earth, as Hitler saw the Jews. Mighty funny, indeed.
And interesting that you can dole out hyperbole, but can't recognize it, when you see it...tit for tat, motherfucker...tit for tat.
 
Oh, wow. I'm so offended. Any black that disagrees with me? It's not a question of "disagreeing with me". It's violating the trust and shitting on the legacy of the black community. Walter "Goddamn" Williams had forebearers that were slaves, by default...so, for him to sit up here and lecture me, and other blacks, on how we should accept anything that any white folks are promoting

ROFLMAO..... yes... it is because he disagrees with your 'blame everyone else, play the victim, play the race card' mentality that you attack him. He is not suggesting that you or anyone should accept 'anything that any white folks are promoting' (note that you AGAIN input RACE, just like the good little victim you are). He disagrees with your POLITICS. A fact you cannot fathom. Your lack of intellectual capacity prohibits you from accepting anyone who dares disagree with you.

(i.e. the conservative movement..the Republican Party (which cares nothing for minorities, to begin with) ...tea party-ism, which is simply "I-can't stand-that-a-black-man-is-in-the-friggin-white-house'), contrary to our "best interests" (assuming we have no brains, are robots, and perpetually do not work and have our hands out, throwing back a 40 oz. and scratching our butts), ain't happening.

LMAO... again you show your racist beliefs. Tell us genius.... are people not allowed to criticize Obama because he is black? Are you suggesting we treat him differently because of his pigmentation?

As for your best interests.... are YOU the judge of what is in the best interest of ALL black people? Are other black people not allowed to think for themselves and come to different conclusions?

If it's so absurd, the notion that Barack Obama is not only being criticized for his black skin, but in danger of being assassinated, in numbers and incidents "unprecedented", then explain how it's not. Prove that it's not his race or ethnicity, but his policies that you are against. Beyond the shadow of a doubt. The problem lies in that who is to believe you? Why should you be believed...that you are critical, on the sole basis of his policies, and not his race...when there is evidence, and plenty of it, from tea party rallies, to the cover of The New Yorker, and countless emails to the contrary?

LMAO..... given that I have always criticized policies of idiotic politicians regardless of their race, that should be proof enough. Given that every criticism I have had of Obama is based on POLICY not pigmentation, that too should be enough. But for you it never will be. For you it is easier to simply paint everyone that disagrees with you as a racist. Because you are incapable of debating POLICY. You want to simply stomp your feet and scream racist and then pretend that makes you an intellectual.

And give me a fucking break. Wasn't Bush white? Wasn't Hitler white?

and? Does their having the same pigmentation make it right to equate Bush to Hitler? That is truly absurd. You should be embarrassed.

Hitler was adamant in his hatred of the Jews, whom he held responsible for Germany's demise. Mighty funny, Muslims are America's bane. And there are those of you who would see them wiped from the face of the Earth, as Hitler saw the Jews. Mighty funny, indeed.
And interesting that you can dole out hyperbole, but can't recognize it, when you see it...tit for tat, motherfucker...tit for tat.

Thanks again for proving what a racist piece of shit you are. Muslims are NOT America's bane. While there are certainly racist pieces of shit like you that might want them to be wiped from the earth, civilized society does not. So please take your personal beliefs and keep them to yourself rather than projecting your hatred of Muslims onto the rest of us.
 
You're the coward. I challenged you in open forum, and you dismissed it. Hate? Racism? Who am I hating? And who am I being racist against?

You hate the truth. That's why you spew your racist hateful rhetoric at black people simply because they love the USA and what it stands for. You're a racist, a bigot, and full of hate for the truth. You can't look at anything that shines a light on your dark thinking because it convicts you and the fear of seeing who you really are is too painful for you.
 
You hate the truth. That's why you spew your racist hateful rhetoric at black people simply because they love the USA and what it stands for. You're a racist, a bigot, and full of hate for the truth. You can't look at anything that shines a light on your dark thinking because it convicts you and the fear of seeing who you really are is too painful for you.

LOL. What are you now, an armchair psychologist? LOL...pathetic.
 
You're the coward. I challenged you in open forum, and you dismissed it. Hate? Racism? Who am I hating? And who am I being racist against?
Mr. Crybaby ....whining and crying again and again....Mr. Victim.....

Slavery is long gone.....you have no more an insight to what life on a plantation was like than the average white bigot...the excuse is wearing thin.....its like the Jews complaining today about being held in slavery by the Egyptians...bad things happened to all races and cultures at some time or another in history...its time to let it go....get over it
To remember history is one thing, to let it consume your life and feed your biases is another....
 
LOL. What are you now, an armchair psychologist? LOL...pathetic.

Your full of self-loathing and fear. You're bound and shackled by the old tired liberal con game that you fell for and you're too weak to break the chains of your own self-inflicted slavery. You're lost in the wilderness. It's sad and pathetic to watch.
 
A quote is a quote no shock poet n doesn't dissown it. Houdpston public school upbringing. He didn't make it as a regular thug, so he thugs out on weaker gays.

lol!

And his gang of gay thugs still fail.

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ROFLMAO..... yes... it is because he disagrees with your 'blame everyone else, play the victim, play the race card' mentality that you attack him. He is not suggesting that you or anyone should accept 'anything that any white folks are promoting' (note that you AGAIN input RACE, just like the good little victim you are). He disagrees with your POLITICS. A fact you cannot fathom. Your lack of intellectual capacity prohibits you from accepting anyone who dares disagree with you.

Uh, sorry...but I don't buy into the 'play the victim, play the race card, blame everyone" mindset. You'll forgive me. I'm not attacking him...I'm rendering him "a moot point'. He has no credibility, because he is "singing Massa's song". And that's not being racist, that is calling out one of my own, on his shit. And it's not your business to judge me...as it would be none of my business if you were to call out "one of your own". And I have no problem with disagreement. I have problems with lack of integrity, and racial traitors.
LMAO... again you show your racist beliefs. Tell us genius.... are people not allowed to criticize Obama because he is black? Are you suggesting we treat him differently because of his pigmentation?
Uh, since Obama is the first "black" president, how are we to know if your criticism isn't "race-based"? I mean, how do we know? You saying that it's not, doesn't prove it. Like I'd take your word for anything. Really. I'm not suggesting anything. I'm pointing it out. You can't prove that you don't treat him differently because of his race.

As for your best interests.... are YOU the judge of what is in the best interest of ALL black people? Are other black people not allowed to think for themselves and come to different conclusions?

Uh, better than you. And of course black people are allowed to think for themselves and to come to different conclusions...but they better be able to defend their conclusions, and not have some "white representative" doing their dirty work for them. I mean who the fuck might you be?


LMAO..... given that I have always criticized policies of idiotic politicians regardless of their race, that should be proof enough. Given that every criticism I have had of Obama is based on POLICY not pigmentation, that too should be enough. But for you it never will be. For you it is easier to simply paint everyone that disagrees with you as a racist. Because you are incapable of debating POLICY. You want to simply stomp your feet and scream racist and then pretend that makes you an intellectual.

Pardon me, if I don't believe you. And your word is no proof. I'm supposed to believe that you wouldn't lie? LOLOLOLOLOLOL. Newsflash. Everyone that disagrees with me is not a racist. Did you get that? Let me say it again. Everyone that disagrees with me is not a racist. Now, most racists will disagree with me, by default. But , not necessarily. One can't make racist statements, rhetoric, or summarily dismiss my POV, and then claim not to be a racist. The real world doesn't work that way. If it quacks, waddles, and has a duckbill...it's a duck.
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and? Does their having the same pigmentation make it right to equate Bush to Hitler? That is truly absurd. You should be embarrassed.

Well, rather Bush, than Obama. You are aware that Bush's grandfather, Prescott, had business dealings with Hitler and was sympathetic, despite being politically incorrect????????
You're the one that should be embarrassed. I don't have to pretend to be an intellectual. I am one, without your consent.



Thanks again for proving what a racist piece of shit you are. Muslims are NOT America's bane. While there are certainly racist pieces of shit like you that might want them to be wiped from the earth, civilized society does not. So please take your personal beliefs and keep them to yourself rather than projecting your hatred of Muslims onto the rest of us.

Ah, ad hominem....what you have when you have nothing else. It's a cinch you're no intellectual. And Muslims , most certainly are, the bane of the American right. They are rabid about them.
If you quoted me correctly, you'd see that I said it was your ilk that wanted them to be wiped from the face of the Earth...implying that you're hardly "civilized". I am perfectly fine with Muslims..and harbor no ill will against them. Thank you.
 
Ah, ad hominem....what you have when you have nothing else. It's a cinch you're no intellectual. And Muslims , most certainly are, the bane of the American right. They are rabid about them.
If you quoted me correctly, you'd see that I said it was your ilk that wanted them to be wiped from the face of the Earth...implying that you're hardly "civilized". I am perfectly fine with Muslims..and harbor no ill will against them. Thank you.

Self-loathing, ignorance, and fear. Sad and pathetic.
 
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