We haven't heard much about the War on Christmas this year....

Rana said:
No, not really because the chemistry allows me to enjoy, and be in awe of all that surrounds me. It is my very humanness and the way the human body functions that allows me to look into my husbands eyes and feel the love. I don't require a supernatural deity to enjoy the wonders of life!
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I didn't mention a supernatural diety, per se. But the existence of something beyond biology is far sweeter than not.
 
Alias said:
Interesting mindset. Very revealing and disappointing. I thought you had more going for you than resorting to the race card, besides being totally off the topic. Just goes to show how distorted first impressions can be.
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Actually he is dead on. Christians have been the top dog for so long, in so many ways, that evening the playing field looks like persecution to them.

If he and I and the rest are wrong, please tell us how there is a war on christians? And the idea that businesses work to include everyone and not exclude those who do not share their beliefs is not a war on christians.
 
WinterBorn said:
Do you consider yourself an atheist or an agnostic?
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I, if I have to pick one, would say an agnostic, I can not state emphatically, "there is no god(s)", but I do not believe in the being(s) which is the premise of the Earthly religions. We could be someone's science experiment for all I know. The more I educate myself, the more I believe that the current concepts of god are all man made. Our fears and hopes created them.
 
Alias said:
Interesting mindset. Very revealing and disappointing. I thought you had more going for you than resorting to the race card, besides being totally off the topic. Just goes to show how distorted first impressions can be.
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I didn't resort to the race card. What I said is that it is as stupid as when White Men complain about how difficult it is to be a white man. There is no war on Christians. Christianity is the largest single religion in this country. There are Churches every couple of miles in every major city in America. The fact that we have finally removed it as the de facto official religion of the US is a good thing. There is no reason for a teacher to lead ANY kind of prayer in a classroom. There is no reason for for clergy led prayers at graduation. ALL those things can be done privately by students. Freedom of religion means that people can actively participate in their beliefs without forcing others to sit by and be a part of it.
 
Maybe it's cuz the republican front runners are not Christians this election.
 
wanderingbear said:
Cant argue with that. But you dont have a soul eather.no body does. Its just a fairy tail. As to your childhood I can only guess.
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Gee; I was just kidding about you being neglected as a child.
According to Apple, you have no reason to be alive and should have been aborted.

As to the rest:
Well, if there is no afterlife; then I've just wasted my time.
But if there is an afterlife, then you're just wasted.
 
Just a question for the extreme pro-lifers.
If a "fetus" is not human, until it's birth has been registered (according to Apple); why do we have and support laws that punish women who smoke, drink, or do drugs, during the pregnancy?

Shouldn't this be focused on how they behave, after the child is "born"?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Gee; I was just kidding about you being neglected as a child.
According to Apple, you have no reason to be alive and should have been aborted.

As to the rest:
Well, if there is no afterlife; then I've just wasted my time.
But if there is an afterlife, then you're just wasted.
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What the hell are you rambling on about now?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Just a question for the extreme pro-lifers.
If a "fetus" is not human, until it's birth has been registered (according to Apple); why do we have and support laws that punish women who smoke, drink, or do drugs, during the pregnancy?

Shouldn't this be focused on how they behave, after the child is "born"?
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If a "fetus" is not human, until it's birth has been registered (according to Apple);

It's unfortunate you have to lie and distort what I say. It doesn't help your case.
 
Socrtease said:
I didn't resort to the race card. What I said is that it is as stupid as when White Men complain about how difficult it is to be a white man. There is no war on Christians. Christianity is the largest single religion in this country. There are Churches every couple of miles in every major city in America. The fact that we have finally removed it as the de facto official religion of the US is a good thing. There is no reason for a teacher to lead ANY kind of prayer in a classroom. There is no reason for for clergy led prayers at graduation. ALL those things can be done privately by students. Freedom of religion means that people can actively participate in their beliefs without forcing others to sit by and be a part of it.
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What the hell are you even talking about.....a white man complaining about being a white man. You must hang with some real nuts.
 
apple0154 said:
If a "fetus" is not human, until it's birth has been registered (according to Apple);

It's unfortunate you have to lie and distort what I say. It doesn't help your case.
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When I asked you when the fetus became a human, you danced around and then finally said it was when their birth was recorded.
Once again, you prove that not only do you have trouble remembering what you've posted; but that you're circular logic also has you confused.

Since Apple is trying to defend his lunacy, by calling me a liar; I thought I would go back and show that what I suggested he said, he did say.

Apple wrote: The moment it's born the birth is registered. It is then considered a person.
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Now, everyone sit back and watch how Apple will attempt to use his circular logic and try to explain this all away.
Hang on tight though; because you don't want to get dizzy and fall down.
 
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USFREEDOM911 said:
When I asked you when the fetus became a human, you danced around and then finally said it was when their birth was recorded.
Once again, you prove that not only do you have trouble remembering what you've posted; but that you're circular logic also has you confused.

Since Apple is trying to defend his lunacy, by calling me a liar; I thought I would go back and show that what I suggested he said, he did say.

Apple wrote: The moment it's born the birth is registered. It is then considered a person.

Now, everyone sit back and watch how Apple will attempt to use his circular logic and try to explain this all away.
Hang on tight though; because you don't want to get dizzy and fall down.
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I know common sense is alien to you but a registered birth legally confirms a person. That's why we have birth certificates. That's why birth certificates are required as identification in many instances.

Your question was where did I draw the line between fetus and baby and I said when the fetus leaves the woman's body. You insisted on a precise moment and I replied the time is written on a birth certificate. It's unfortunate you either do not comprehend logic or intentionally twist ones posts. Typical right wing tactic.

PS. I hope this simple logic does not make you dizzy resulting in a fall.
 
apple0154 said:
I know common sense is alien to you but a registered birth legally confirms a person. That's why we have birth certificates. That's why birth certificates are required as identification in many instances.

Your question was where did I draw the line between fetus and baby and I said when the fetus leaves the woman's body. You insisted on a precise moment and I replied the time is written on a birth certificate. It's unfortunate you either do not comprehend logic or intentionally twist ones posts. Typical right wing tactic.

PS. I hope this simple logic does not make you dizzy resulting in a fall.
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You can continue to run around in circles; but it does nothing to help your delusions.

Since you're saying that it's when it leaves the womans body, are you referring to the head, shoulders, arms, hips, legs, feet,...?

I asked you when the fetus becomes a human and you said it's when the birth is registered; because I then asked you about all the people who weren't registered, until well after their birth.

You said, you own it, and now you are beginning to realize how inane your circular reasoning is.
 
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