Massachussetts, an enemy of the people

http://bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view/20220113crime_victim_still_takes_it_on_the_chin

Here’s the final outcome of the Anthony McKay case:

If you defend your family and property from a knife-wielding druggie in Massachusetts, you’d better be prepared to also defend yourself from the justice system, too.

McKay is the young father who, seeing a local druggie breaking into his truck and stealing the tools he uses to pay the bills, confronted him, subdued him and held him for the police. When the police arrived, they found the bad guy had a knife, a billy club and — thanks to the unarmed McKay — a broken jaw.

Instead of thanking McKay for helping get an armed criminal off the streets, Swampscott officials charged him with a felony. As a Swampscott police spokesman said at the time, “We don’t urge anybody to fight back. We want them to call us.”

Thanks to pressure from readers of the Boston Herald and others, McKay will not be prosecuted. But the Essex County District Attorney’s office has made it clear that they are not supporting your right to self defense.

The Lynn Daily Item yesterday reported that the Essex DA insists the decision to nol pros — decline to prosecute — the case does not mean they think the police were wrong in arresting McKay. “It was not meant to Monday morning quarterback,” said spokesperson Carrie Kimball Monahan.

McKay’s pro bono attorney, Richard Chambers, was told the same thing. “The Essex DA’s office said they are able to prosecute some cases and not others, and this is one of those that they are not going to prosecute.”

In other words, McKay is lucky that the media made an issue out of this outrageous prosecution. Otherwise he could have spent five years in prison instead of working and paying the bills for his three young children.

Who can possibly think this is the right way to run a state? Well, Martha Coakley once said, “In Massachusetts we try and discourage . . . self-help.”

If Essex DA Jon Blodgett had dropped the charges and acknowledged McKay had done nothing wrong, that would send the message to future crooks that the law is on the good guy’s side.

Instead, Blodgett refused take sides. He and his spokesman have also refused repeated requests to answer questions about this case. All of which leaves us wondering:

If I see someone breaking into my car or garage, or stealing my property right out of my yard, am I supposed to call the police and just watch them steal my stuff?

I put that question to three local attorneys and got three different answers:

Wendy Murphy told me, “The standard in Massachusetts is you cannot defend yourself unless you’re going to die.” She also said this standard is “ridiculous,” and that “if the police tell you to do nothing as your livelihood is stolen, I’d be tempted to sue them.”

Joe Flaherty told me, “You have the right to confront them and stop them  . . . but you don’t have the right to use force.” When I asked what I could do under Massachusetts law, he said, “You could scream and yell at them.”

Yeah, that’ll work.

Meanwhile, former Governor’s Council candidate Bob Jubinville said, “If it’s me, I grab a baseball bat and head out. But if a client asked me what to do, I’d say ‘Call the cops and hope they show up fast.’ ”

So, I asked him, if I’m a crime victim trying to protect my property in Massachusetts, is the state on my side?

“Absolutely not.”
 
we are talking property vs. life here. he apparently used unreasonable force for the police. the DA saw different.

that is how it should be.
 
we are talking property vs. life here. he apparently used unreasonable force for the police. the DA saw different.

that is how it should be.

How is that? The state determined pre-emptively that any and all force would be 'unreasonable' which is an entirely unrealistic standard.
 
then what did i miss?

the article sets and shows the general overall tone of the government of massachussetts, that self defense and self help are discouraged and generally prosecuted. the fact that this case didn't get prosecuted because of the overall public outcry is the exception, else it would not have been reported.
 
http://bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view/20220113crime_victim_still_takes_it_on_the_chin

Here’s the final outcome of the Anthony McKay case:

If you defend your family and property from a knife-wielding druggie in Massachusetts, you’d better be prepared to also defend yourself from the justice system, too.

McKay is the young father who, seeing a local druggie breaking into his truck and stealing the tools he uses to pay the bills, confronted him, subdued him and held him for the police. When the police arrived, they found the bad guy had a knife, a billy club and — thanks to the unarmed McKay — a broken jaw.

Instead of thanking McKay for helping get an armed criminal off the streets, Swampscott officials charged him with a felony. As a Swampscott police spokesman said at the time, “We don’t urge anybody to fight back. We want them to call us.”

Thanks to pressure from readers of the Boston Herald and others, McKay will not be prosecuted. But the Essex County District Attorney’s office has made it clear that they are not supporting your right to self defense.

The Lynn Daily Item yesterday reported that the Essex DA insists the decision to nol pros — decline to prosecute — the case does not mean they think the police were wrong in arresting McKay. “It was not meant to Monday morning quarterback,” said spokesperson Carrie Kimball Monahan.

McKay’s pro bono attorney, Richard Chambers, was told the same thing. “The Essex DA’s office said they are able to prosecute some cases and not others, and this is one of those that they are not going to prosecute.”

In other words, McKay is lucky that the media made an issue out of this outrageous prosecution. Otherwise he could have spent five years in prison instead of working and paying the bills for his three young children.

Who can possibly think this is the right way to run a state? Well, Martha Coakley once said, “In Massachusetts we try and discourage . . . self-help.”

If Essex DA Jon Blodgett had dropped the charges and acknowledged McKay had done nothing wrong, that would send the message to future crooks that the law is on the good guy’s side.

Instead, Blodgett refused take sides. He and his spokesman have also refused repeated requests to answer questions about this case. All of which leaves us wondering:

If I see someone breaking into my car or garage, or stealing my property right out of my yard, am I supposed to call the police and just watch them steal my stuff?

I put that question to three local attorneys and got three different answers:

Wendy Murphy told me, “The standard in Massachusetts is you cannot defend yourself unless you’re going to die.” She also said this standard is “ridiculous,” and that “if the police tell you to do nothing as your livelihood is stolen, I’d be tempted to sue them.”

Joe Flaherty told me, “You have the right to confront them and stop them  . . . but you don’t have the right to use force.” When I asked what I could do under Massachusetts law, he said, “You could scream and yell at them.”

Yeah, that’ll work.

Meanwhile, former Governor’s Council candidate Bob Jubinville said, “If it’s me, I grab a baseball bat and head out. But if a client asked me what to do, I’d say ‘Call the cops and hope they show up fast.’ ”

So, I asked him, if I’m a crime victim trying to protect my property in Massachusetts, is the state on my side?

“Absolutely not.”
First of all I live in colorado where we're allowed to shoot pricks who are in our houses trying to steal stuff
Ok there's a reason for this, it's to avoid old ladies getting shot because they wouldn't hand over their purses to a threehundred pount mugger, it's to avoid guys getting shot by their wives who've never used a shotgun and were trying to shoot the burgler their husband was wrestling. THe cops much prefer robbery to homicide. But that's the reason behind going along with robbers and not trying to jump them.
 
First of all I live in colorado where we're allowed to shoot pricks who are in our houses trying to steal stuff
Ok there's a reason for this, it's to avoid old ladies getting shot because they wouldn't hand over their purses to a threehundred pount mugger, it's to avoid guys getting shot by their wives who've never used a shotgun and were trying to shoot the burgler their husband was wrestling. THe cops much prefer robbery to homicide. But that's the reason behind going along with robbers and not trying to jump them.

Why are you mentioning deadly force? The entirety of the article certainly didn't.
 
First of all I live in colorado where we're allowed to shoot pricks who are in our houses trying to steal stuff
Ok there's a reason for this, it's to avoid old ladies getting shot because they wouldn't hand over their purses to a threehundred pount mugger, it's to avoid guys getting shot by their wives who've never used a shotgun and were trying to shoot the burgler their husband was wrestling. THe cops much prefer robbery to homicide. But that's the reason behind going along with robbers and not trying to jump them.

the duty to submit over self defense is an entirely different subject i'll talk about later.
 
http://bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view/20220113crime_victim_still_takes_it_on_the_chin

Here’s the final outcome of the Anthony McKay case:

If you defend your family and property from a knife-wielding druggie in Massachusetts, you’d better be prepared to also defend yourself from the justice system, too.

McKay is the young father who, seeing a local druggie breaking into his truck and stealing the tools he uses to pay the bills, confronted him, subdued him and held him for the police. When the police arrived, they found the bad guy had a knife, a billy club and — thanks to the unarmed McKay — a broken jaw.

Instead of thanking McKay for helping get an armed criminal off the streets, Swampscott officials charged him with a felony. As a Swampscott police spokesman said at the time, “We don’t urge anybody to fight back. We want them to call us.”

Thanks to pressure from readers of the Boston Herald and others, McKay will not be prosecuted. But the Essex County District Attorney’s office has made it clear that they are not supporting your right to self defense.

The Lynn Daily Item yesterday reported that the Essex DA insists the decision to nol pros — decline to prosecute — the case does not mean they think the police were wrong in arresting McKay. “It was not meant to Monday morning quarterback,” said spokesperson Carrie Kimball Monahan.

McKay’s pro bono attorney, Richard Chambers, was told the same thing. “The Essex DA’s office said they are able to prosecute some cases and not others, and this is one of those that they are not going to prosecute.”

In other words, McKay is lucky that the media made an issue out of this outrageous prosecution. Otherwise he could have spent five years in prison instead of working and paying the bills for his three young children.

Who can possibly think this is the right way to run a state? Well, Martha Coakley once said, “In Massachusetts we try and discourage . . . self-help.”

If Essex DA Jon Blodgett had dropped the charges and acknowledged McKay had done nothing wrong, that would send the message to future crooks that the law is on the good guy’s side.

Instead, Blodgett refused take sides. He and his spokesman have also refused repeated requests to answer questions about this case. All of which leaves us wondering:

If I see someone breaking into my car or garage, or stealing my property right out of my yard, am I supposed to call the police and just watch them steal my stuff?

I put that question to three local attorneys and got three different answers:

Wendy Murphy told me, “The standard in Massachusetts is you cannot defend yourself unless you’re going to die.” She also said this standard is “ridiculous,” and that “if the police tell you to do nothing as your livelihood is stolen, I’d be tempted to sue them.”

Joe Flaherty told me, “You have the right to confront them and stop them  . . . but you don’t have the right to use force.” When I asked what I could do under Massachusetts law, he said, “You could scream and yell at them.”

Yeah, that’ll work.

Meanwhile, former Governor’s Council candidate Bob Jubinville said, “If it’s me, I grab a baseball bat and head out. But if a client asked me what to do, I’d say ‘Call the cops and hope they show up fast.’ ”

So, I asked him, if I’m a crime victim trying to protect my property in Massachusetts, is the state on my side?

“Absolutely not.”
That's fucking hillarious. Someone from Texas, a State that committed treason, has the balls to call a loyal state like Massachusetts an enemy of the people? Give me a fuckng break! LOL LOL LOL
 
We have a similiar law in Ohio. Were the guy from the treasonous State views one as having a right to kill to protect "property" we here in civilized America take a different view. One has the right to use lethal force to protect ones self, family and innocents from physical harm but here in civilization one does not have the right to kill over property. The life of even a thief has more value and dignity then any property. Here in civilization we prefer the rule of law to killing people over property.
 
Treason is a nuance? Look dude. No one from Texas has a leg to stand on implying other States are treasonous. It's hypocritical as hell.
wait, you're trying to say that I, someone born and raised in ILLINOIS!!!!!, is a hypocrite because I moved to Texas so I have no leg to stand on?

fuck you and the horse you tried to steal you fucking retard.
 
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