Don't call them African Americans

[Lowaicue]

Why are you concerned with how I choose to label or identify myself? Don't think that what I do or think has anything to do with you. And kindly keep your advice to yourself.

While I agree with your sentiments totally I do think there is a danger of going too far with political correctness. The only time I would have negative feelings towards a black person would be when he or she is acting in a way to cause negativity. The same would apply to a white person, a yellow person or a brown person. Indeed the 'noble African' often commands greater respect than others because of his stature, his diligence (when given the opportunity) and his connection with history and the birth of humanity.
We have recently had a case of a professional footballer losing his captaincy because of remarks he made to a player of a defferent race, but when Wayne Rooney (one of the country's best strikers) appears he is subject to screams of 'scouse bastard', ugly scouse bastard', 'monkey' ... and he is 'white'. I know people from Liverpool (scousers) who are mortally offended at anti Liverpool jokes and verbal attacks. Brummies (people from Birmingham) are stereotypically assumed to be the most boring people in the world, Scots are called 'Jocks' and teased for their tight fistedness, Welsh are Taffs who are known for sexual exploits with sheep.
What do you call a scouser in a three bedroomed house? A burglar!
It cannot be right to judge people by race, but nor is it right to insult them over any other visible attribute.
We can call Bush a brain dead moron but we cannot level that at Obama (nor should we).
I guess that what I am saying is that I for one am somewhat confused and know that we should all be circumspect when referring to other people whether they be tall, short, fat, thin, black, white or yellow. Everyone has a name of some sort so why not just use that?

Unless you are a yank, of course!!

I do understand that things are a little different in the US. I put that down to the fact that few people are really secure in their own identity. The country is just too young.

 

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We can call Bush a brain dead moron but we cannot level that at Obama (nor should we).

I do understand that things are a little different in the US. I put that down to the fact that few people are really secure in their own identity. The country is just too young.

I, of course can call Obama a brain dead moron, with no talent to lead this country...and I certainly do.....he was an undistinguished lawyer and "community organizer" in his private life, nothing but pinhead activist.....

Bush attended Yale University , graduating with an A.B. in history and was a fighter pilot, flying Convair F-102s with the 147th Reconnaissance Wing; hardly
can be classified as a brain dead moron, especially by a meathead like Lowaicue.......

And Bush showed his security in his own identity by not once, ever, getting into the gutter with the detractors that ridiculed him, by treating them in the same way......
he was gracious even to the worst of the slimy pigs that were hateful to him personally, politically, and publicly.....

 

[poet]

While I agree with your sentiments totally I do think there is a danger of going too far with political correctness. The only time I would have negative feelings towards a black person would be when he or she is acting in a way to cause negativity. The same would apply to a white person, a yellow person or a brown person. Indeed the 'noble African' often commands greater respect than others because of his stature, his diligence (when given the opportunity) and his connection with history and the birth of humanity.
We have recently had a case of a professional footballer losing his captaincy because of remarks he made to a player of a defferent race, but when Wayne Rooney (one of the country's best strikers) appears he is subject to screams of 'scouse bastard', ugly scouse bastard', 'monkey' ... and he is 'white'. I know people from Liverpool (scousers) who are mortally offended at anti Liverpool jokes and verbal attacks. Brummies (people from Birmingham) are stereotypically assumed to be the most boring people in the world, Scots are called 'Jocks' and teased for their tight fistedness, Welsh are Taffs who are known for sexual exploits with sheep.
What do you call a scouser in a three bedroomed house? A burglar!
It cannot be right to judge people by race, but nor is it right to insult them over any other visible attribute.
We can call Bush a brain dead moron but we cannot level that at Obama (nor should we).
I guess that what I am saying is that I for one am somewhat confused and know that we should all be circumspect when referring to other people whether they be tall, short, fat, thin, black, white or yellow. Everyone has a name of some sort so why not just use that?

Unless you are a yank, of course!!

I do understand that things are a little different in the US. I put that down to the fact that few people are really secure in their own identity. The country is just too young.

Low, for so long, whites have made us uncomfortable about ourselves....who we are, what we look like. That changed, significantly, in the 60's, with the Black Power Movement, and adopting slogans like "I'm Black and I'm Proud" and "Black is Beautiful". A few of us even broke "the glass ceiling" in the 70's and 80's and became corporate, upwardly mobile and assimilated. Then there was the backlash during the Reagan Administration, the rise of the neo-cons, and Bush and Cheney's all-out war on people of color (i.e. Hurricane Katrina), prompting Kanye West to say on national television, "Bush doesn't care anything about black people". That sentiment holds true today. As a result, blacks largely identify as "black" or African-American....and "proudly'. Because it bites the butt of those on the right, who would rather group everyone as "Americans" (while not treating them as such), it removes the guilt and dilutes the self-imposed separation they feel, inherently, for persons of color. The presidency of Barack Obama, lifted the veil to reveal the ugly scar of racism and bigotry that was always there. But unlike vampires...these racists are not afraid of the sunlight or crucifixes....and they don't care what anyone thinks about it. Look around this very forum for proof.

 

[poet]

I, of course can call Obama a brain dead moron, with no talent to lead this country...and I certainly do.....he was an undistinguished lawyer and "community organizer" in his private life, nothing but pinhead activist.....

Bush attended Yale University , graduating with an A.B. in history and was a fighter pilot, flying Convair F-102s with the 147th Reconnaissance Wing; hardly
can be classified as a brain dead moron, especially by a meathead like Lowaicue.......

And Bush showed his security in his own identity by not once, ever, getting into the gutter with the detractors that ridiculed him, by treating them in the same way......
he was gracious even to the worst of the slimy pigs that were hateful to him personally, politically, and publicly.....

LOLOLOL
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/01/AR2006120101509.html

 

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Low, for so long, whites have made us uncomfortable about ourselves....who we are, what we look like. That changed, significantly, in the 60's, with the Black Power Movement, and adopting slogans like "I'm Black and I'm Proud" and "Black is Beautiful". A few of us even broke "the glass ceiling" in the 70's and 80's and became corporate, upwardly mobile and assimilated. Then there was the backlash during the Reagan Administration, the rise of the neo-cons, and Bush and Cheney's all-out war on people of color (i.e. Hurricane Katrina), prompting Kanye West to say on national television, "Bush doesn't care anything about black people". That sentiment holds true today. As a result, blacks largely identify as "black" or African-American....and "proudly'. Because it bites the butt of those on the right, who would rather group everyone as "Americans" (while not treating them as such), it removes the guilt and dilutes the self-imposed separation they feel, inherently, for persons of color. The presidency of Barack Obama, lifted the veil to reveal the ugly scar of racism and bigotry that was always there. But unlike vampires...these racists are not afraid of the sunlight or crucifixes....and they don't care what anyone thinks about it. Look around this very forum for proof.

why you always insist upon throwing nonsense in with reality I will never understand. Bush did not send Katrina to hit blacks. Bush is NOT the one who ignored the evacuation order. Bush is not the one that left hundreds of school buses unused rather than evacuate the people of New Orleans. Bush's FEMA director was incompetent, on that we all agree. But do you seriously believe he put Brown in charge of FEMA with the intent of Brown failing 'black people'?

Give me a fucking break. As for racists... you above all on this board (save perhaps Webb) are obsessed with race. You see 'racists' everywhere you see 'white' people.

 

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hurricane katrina was a "war on people of color".

wow...just wow...i had no idea bush and cheney were so powerful they could control the weather.

 

[poet]

why you always insist upon throwing nonsense in with reality I will never understand. Bush did not send Katrina to hit blacks. Bush is NOT the one who ignored the evacuation order. Bush is not the one that left hundreds of school buses unused rather than evacuate the people of New Orleans. Bush's FEMA director was incompetent, on that we all agree. But do you seriously believe he put Brown in charge of FEMA with the intent of Brown failing 'black people'?

Give me a fucking break. As for racists... you above all on this board (save perhaps Webb) are obsessed with race. You see 'racists' everywhere you see 'white' people.

Are you stupid, or what? Did I say that Bush, "Godlike", sent Katrina to New Orleans? I was talking about his response to the disaster, you moron. And you right wing nuts continue to throw out that red herring, that the responsibility lay with the mayor and the governor. Everyone couldn't be evacuated, as a matter of reality, dumbbell.
I was a resident of Texas, when George W. Bush was governor, and I can tell you from first hand experience of his incompetence and lack of ingenuity.
And you're confused and wrong. Not every white person is a racist....only the ones that are. None of the white liberals here are racist...explain that.

 

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Are you stupid, or what? Did I say that Bush, "Godlike", sent Katrina to New Orleans? I was talking about his response to the disaster, you moron. And you right wing nuts continue to throw out that red herring, that the responsibility lay with the mayor and the governor. Everyone couldn't be evacuated, as a matter of reality, dumbbell.
I was a resident of Texas, when George W. Bush was governor, and I can tell you from first hand experience of his incompetence and lack of ingenuity.
And you're confused and wrong. Not every white person is a racist....only the ones that are. None of the white liberals here are racist...explain that.

No dear poet, but you are quite ignorant. Saying 'everyone' couldn't be evacuated is probably true. But tell us genius... did everyone that could leave TRY to leave when the order came in? WHY weren't the buses used to help get people out? There is plenty of responsibility/blame to go around in Katrina. Many of the people didn't leave when ordered. The Mayor failed his citizens, as did the governor, as did Bush. But you don't hold the mayor accountable at all do you? Is it because Nagin is black?

LMAO... you keep proclaiming who is and isn't racist on this board... tell us poet... how many of the people on this board do you actually KNOW? My guess is none. You continually proclaim me to be racist... without ever backing it up with the evidence that makes you think that. As I stated, you are one of the biggest racists on this board. But I do enjoy how you proclaim white liberals aren't racists, but white conservatives are. Your pathetic stereotypes show just how warped your sense of reality is.

 

[Jarod]

The two phrases mean two different things.

An African American describes someone's ancestry. Black, describes someone's race.

I can be European-American and still be black. I could also be African-American and still be white. I know a white girl whose family moved here from South Africa in the 1980's, she calls herself African-American when people ask about her heratige, she is white when someone describes her race.

 

[poet]

No dear poet, but you are quite ignorant. Saying 'everyone' couldn't be evacuated is probably true. But tell us genius... did everyone that could leave TRY to leave when the order came in? WHY weren't the buses used to help get people out? There is plenty of responsibility/blame to go around in Katrina. Many of the people didn't leave when ordered. The Mayor failed his citizens, as did the governor, as did Bush. But you don't hold the mayor accountable at all do you? Is it because Nagin is black?

LMAO... you keep proclaiming who is and isn't racist on this board... tell us poet... how many of the people on this board do you actually KNOW? My guess is none. You continually proclaim me to be racist... without ever backing it up with the evidence that makes you think that. As I stated, you are one of the biggest racists on this board. But I do enjoy how you proclaim white liberals aren't racists, but white conservatives are. Your pathetic stereotypes show just how warped your sense of reality is.

The problem lies in when it became a federal responsibility. There were no safety nets. Everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong.
The mayor and the governor failed in their duties and responsibilities. But Bush announced that the buck stopped with him, which it did, and he failed.

I know no one here, personally. But you can kind of get a gist for what people are like by their commentary and their support or the lack thereof. And really? Who am I racist against, being the biggest racist on this board? If it's "white people", explain how the white liberals have forgiven me my racism and in fact, support me, encourage me, and praise me. What you must be saying is that they have no moral compass, and are in fact, "patsies", and have fallen for my obvious bullshit. In essence, they are stupid and naive...right?
That ought to go over real well. Name one of the white liberals here, who is a racist. I can name several of the conservatives that are. Don't you worry your pretty little pointy head about my sense of reality. All is well with me.

 

[poet]

The two phrases mean two different things.

An African American describes someone's ancestry. Black, describes someone's race.

I can be European-American and still be black. I could also be African-American and still be white. I know a white girl whose family moved here from South Africa in the 1980's, she calls herself African-American when people ask about her heratige, she is white when someone describes her race.

I'm not buying into all that. If someone asks me to identify, I'll either respond "black", or African-American...more often, the latter.

 

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The two phrases mean two different things.

An African American describes someone's ancestry. Black, describes someone's race.

I can be European-American and still be black. I could also be African-American and still be white. I know a white girl whose family moved here from South Africa in the 1980's, she calls herself African-American when people ask about her heratige, she is white when someone describes her race.

Wow....I'm impressed.....Jughead's post makes sense and the spell checker is in tip-top shape.....good job.

The problem lies in when it became a federal responsibility. There were no safety nets. Everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong.
The mayor and the governor failed in their duties and responsibilities. But Bush announced that the buck stopped with him, which it did, and he failed.

Now if only the fuckin' buck stopped with Obama, where it belongs, instead of passing him and journeying on to the previous administration.....

 

[poet]

Wow....I'm impressed.....Jughead's post makes sense and the spell checker is in tip-top shape.....good job.



Now if only the fuckin' buck stopped with Obama instead of passing him and journeying on to the previous administration.....

You're mixing apples with potatoes. Obama was dealt a hand, not of his own making , and had to deal with it. The unemployment figures came out after he took the oath, but before he could implement any changes. Tell the truth and stop lying.

 

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[USFREEDOM911]

Are you stupid, or what? Did I say that Bush, "Godlike", sent Katrina to New Orleans? I was talking about his response to the disaster, you moron. And you right wing nuts continue to throw out that red herring, that the responsibility lay with the mayor and the governor. Everyone couldn't be evacuated, as a matter of reality, dumbbell.
I was a resident of Texas, when George W. Bush was governor, and I can tell you from first hand experience of his incompetence and lack of ingenuity.
And you're confused and wrong. Not every white person is a racist....only the ones that are. None of the white liberals here are racist...explain that.

And not every black person is a n**********, only the ones that are.
By the way, you obviously enjoy the company of posers...explain that.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

The problem lies in when it became a federal responsibility. There were no safety nets. Everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong.
The mayor and the governor failed in their duties and responsibilities. But Bush announced that the buck stopped with him, which it did, and he failed.

I know no one here, personally. But you can kind of get a gist for what people are like by their commentary and their support or the lack thereof. And really? Who am I racist against, being the biggest racist on this board? If it's "white people", explain how the white liberals have forgiven me my racism and in fact, support me, encourage me, and praise me. What you must be saying is that they have no moral compass, and are in fact, "patsies", and have fallen for my obvious bullshit. In essence, they are stupid and naive...right?
That ought to go over real well. Name one of the white liberals here, who is a racist. I can name several of the conservatives that are. Don't you worry your pretty little pointy head about my sense of reality. All is well with me.

"...explain how the white liberals have forgiven me my racism and in fact, support me, encourage me, and praise me..."

It's because they're posers and they wouldn't say anything negative against Obama, if he raped his secretary on the steps of the White House, in broad daylight, with cameras rolling.

They support you; because they would welcome Satan himself, if he believed like they do, regardless of his behavior.

 

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Oh boy, now I can call myself anglo-saxon american because of my ancestors. Eventually people are going to start wanting a list of DNA molecules, stick with black it's easy simple and you only need one syllable.

Do you have a problem pronouncing anything other than monosyllabic words?

 

[Phantasmal]

I'm an Amerian Woman!

 

[poet]

Lies, by liars, lying...coming from families of liars, who lied. Only the ones that do, or are.

 

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No dear poet, but you are quite ignorant. Saying 'everyone' couldn't be evacuated is probably true. But tell us genius... did everyone that could leave TRY to leave when the order came in? WHY weren't the buses used to help get people out? There is plenty of responsibility/blame to go around in Katrina. Many of the people didn't leave when ordered. The Mayor failed his citizens, as did the governor, as did Bush. But you don't hold the mayor accountable at all do you? Is it because Nagin is black?

LMAO... you keep proclaiming who is and isn't racist on this board... tell us poet... how many of the people on this board do you actually KNOW? My guess is none. You continually proclaim me to be racist... without ever backing it up with the evidence that makes you think that. As I stated, you are one of the biggest racists on this board. But I do enjoy how you proclaim white liberals aren't racists, but white conservatives are. Your pathetic stereotypes show just how warped your sense of reality is.

Many of the people couldn't leave when ordered. I remember in the days after the ugly underbelly of American poverty had been exposed and the cons almost shit their pants. I particularly remember David Brooks writing a preemptive column about how cons needed to rethink their policies and the attention they gave to poverty. I mean, guys like Brooks were scared shitless - there it was, right out there, surely America would revolt in disgust.

And then a few weeks went by and you could see them thinking, holy shit -we're gonna get away with this! And then, not another word about a new age of fighting poverty. Not another word.

It was interesting.