Obama could win my vote...

Crashk said:
Don't get excited the Republicans will never let this happen.
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I think it is the Democrats that will be harder to convince. If the Reps don't jump all over this, they are fools and deserve to lose. granted, given that it is an election year, I won't put anything past the idiots in either party f'in this up. The Reps could 'oppose' a particular loophole being closed (like oil subsidies or something like that) and pretend that is the reason, but their real reason would be very transparent.
 
Hack. I could never vote for that pot-persecuting war mongerer.

And Rev. Graham thinks he's a son of the "bad" religion, besides.
 
The ironic thing is, pinheads will still vote for, praise and apologize for Obama if he lowers the corporate tax rate....but if a Republican did the very same thing, the

Dems, msm, and the entire population of Hollywood would ridicule, scorn and crucify his ass for being in bed with 'big business'........

Their are no bigger hypocrites than the political lefties...........
 
bravo said:
The ironic thing is, pinheads will still vote for, praise and apologize for Obama if he lowers the corporate tax rate....but if a Republican did the very same thing, the

Dems, msm, and the entire population of Hollywood would ridicule, scorn and crucify his ass for being in bed with 'big business'........

Their are no bigger hypocrites than the political lefties...........
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You'll still call him a socialist...otherwise this would have been a very intelligent observation. Well, it would have been an observation anyway.
 
bravo said:
The ironic thing is, pinheads will still vote for, praise and apologize for Obama if he lowers the corporate tax rate....but if a Republican did the very same thing, the

Dems, msm, and the entire population of Hollywood would ridicule, scorn and crucify his ass for being in bed with 'big business'........

Their are no bigger hypocrites than the political lefties...........
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That's not really the ironic thing. I'm pretty good at spotting irony....
 
Obama's proposal is pretty clever and I'm sure that SF will be against it once he understands that the proposal is designed to increase revenues from corporate taxation while lowering the statutory rate. Companies don't actually pay the statutory rate. That's why all the talk about high corporate tax rates is silly. No one pays it!
Through this proposal Obama gets to look like a friend to business generally (he's cutting the rate!) a friend to small business in particular (he's simplifying the code!) a friend to taxpayers generally (he's ending loopholes! they suck!) and a friend to liberals (he's increasing revenues on the backs of big business!). Pretty smart.
 
Darla said:
You'll still call him a socialist...otherwise this would have been a very intelligent observation. Well, it would have been an observation anyway.
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An after 3+ years, considering Obama in total, he IS a socialist,.........as many members of his party admit they are......
Its the reason the far, far left in the US, ala CPUSA, direct their members to support Democrats.....

Its an election year and he feels he must move toward the center to gain the independent vote, no surprise there.
 
Darla said:
LOL SF is an Obamabot!
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Seriously... if he pushes this type of policy and succeeds in getting the do-nothing Senate to act, I would certainly consider voting for him. Especially if he implemented (or pushed hard publicly) for similar changes to the personal tax code. Again, I would like to see it taken further than what was written, but understand it is not likely to occur in one fell swoop.

Onceler brings up another point... he ends the moronic war on drugs and that would be another feather in his cap. Given his past three years, he needs a lot of feathers for re-election.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Obama's proposal is pretty clever and I'm sure that SF will be against it once he understands that the proposal is designed to increase revenues from corporate taxation while lowering the statutory rate. Companies don't actually pay the statutory rate. That's why all the talk about high corporate tax rates is silly. No one pays it!
Through this proposal Obama gets to look like a friend to business generally (he's cutting the rate!) a friend to small business in particular (he's simplifying the code!) a friend to taxpayers generally (he's ending loopholes! they suck!) and a friend to liberals (he's increasing revenues on the backs of big business!). Pretty smart.
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No moron, his proposal is EXACTLY what I have been proposing. Lowering the marginal rates and eliminating the loopholes and deductions. I have no problem with raising revenue. But THIS is the proper way, in my opinion, to do it. It is exactly what Reagan did.

Guess what, NO ONE pays the top rate on the personal side either. That is why idiots like you who continue to suggest we raise the brackets sound so foolish. That does nothing if you don't eliminate the loopholes and deductions.
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
Obama's proposal is pretty clever and I'm sure that SF will be against it once he understands that the proposal is designed to increase revenues from corporate taxation while lowering the statutory rate. Companies don't actually pay the statutory rate. That's why all the talk about high corporate tax rates is silly. No one pays it!
Through this proposal Obama gets to look like a friend to business generally (he's cutting the rate!) a friend to small business in particular (he's simplifying the code!) a friend to taxpayers generally (he's ending loopholes! they suck!) and a friend to liberals (he's increasing revenues on the backs of big business!). Pretty smart.
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Simplifying the tax code, cutting rates, and closing loopholes are the essence of Conservative tax policy....to broaden the base and increase Fed. revenue....
The Republicans have been doing it the decades when they get an opportunity.....
The only thing better would be a flat tax.....another conservative goal.
 
Superfreak said:
No moron, his proposal is EXACTLY what I have been proposing. Lowering the marginal rates and eliminating the loopholes and deductions. I have no problem with raising revenue. But THIS is the proper way, in my opinion, to do it. It is exactly what Reagan did.
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Anyone hear that "fap" sound?


Superfreak said:
Guess what, NO ONE pays the top rate on the personal side either. That is why idiots like you who continue to suggest we raise the brackets sound so foolish. That does nothing if you don't eliminate the loopholes and deductions.
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Saying it does "nothing" is just a smidgen of an overstatement. If it did nothing, people wouldn't fight like hell over raising and lowering them. "Eliminating loopholes and deductions" is politically difficult to do, particularly on the income tax side of things. It's much easier (although not easy in the least) to tinker with the rates.
 
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