Should police be allowed to carry guns?

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Should police be disarmed?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 12.5%

  • No

    Votes: 7 87.5%
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Disillusioned said:
It's a problem of manpower, time to get there, and it just beingg reported. information based on the Uniform Crime Report, published yearly by the FBI and the National Crim Victim Survey, published by the Bureu of Crime Stastics indicate that only half of all victimizations are even reported to the police. Half, reported. Think about that.
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Yes, that goes to further illustrate my point.
 
i would only disarm the police when criminals are disarmed

having said that, i think that the police do need more oversight in some places

i have heard that police think in the terms of there are scumbags, cop and civilians with civilians being a chancy group

last but not least, i would not want to be a cop because of the constant strain of going into situations where you never know what you will be facing next - also, the responsibility is enormous

fyi, i have had unpleasant encounters with cops up to and including having their drawn and cocked weapons pointed at me and once with the barrel of a pistol against the side of my head - i have looked down the barrel of one of their shotguns after the cop pumped it, i swear that at the time you could have driven a truck down the barrel :(
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
No nerve, just an attempt to provide you with logic and common sense; but then, I can't cure stupid.
And you have just shown why you're full of shit.
You go from one extreme to the other, all the while ignoring what anyone else offers.

Pleae carry a card with you, askng someone to contact JPP when you end up being either arrested or shot while resisting arrest.
But then; you're a coward and nothing more then a computer commando.

If you were ever in the USMC, it's become apparent that you were given a dishonerable discharge for failure to conform.
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how stupid could you possibly be? you never served either, did you? if you had, you'd know that non conformance doesn't lead to dishonorable discharge.
 
Disillusioned said:
And how many times is somebody going to video a cop doing the right thing? It's like saying that only murderers and druggies exist in the country because those are the only people we hear about on the news. How many times have you personally dealt with the police? How many times have they beaten you to death? How many times have they shot you? How many times have they planted drugs on you?

Most people get angry at cops because they got pulled over when they were speeding in a school zone, or when they were driving drunkenly at two in the morning. Then they go around complaining about how the cop was a prick. And these are the same people who complain that the cops didn't stop the man who ran over a four year old.

As for disarming the cops, have fun the next time a man takes a baseball bat to his wife, or a gangbanger sticks up a store, the cops aren't going in there, shit they might die, wait for "SUPER STY" with his gun to show up.
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there's a book you should read called 'dial 911 and die'. let me know what you think.
 
Don Quixote said:
i would only disarm the police when criminals are disarmed

having said that, i think that the police do need more oversight in some places

i have heard that police think in the terms of there are scumbags, cop and civilians with civilians being a chancy group

last but not least, i would not want to be a cop because of the constant strain of going into situations where you never know what you will be facing next - also, the responsibility is enormous

fyi, i have had unpleasant encounters with cops up to and including having their drawn and cocked weapons pointed at me and once with the barrel of a pistol against the side of my head - i have looked down the barrel of one of their shotguns after the cop pumped it, i swear that at the time you could have driven a truck down the barrel :(
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They do need overnight, exactly, but not all cops are bad.
 
 
Rana said:
They do need overnight, exactly, but not all cops are bad.
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bad cops are a result of the leadership, on down. for example, boston PD is corrupt and near lawless. Despite explicit notice from district attorneys and federal court rulings that recording police in public performing their duties is not a criminal offense, Boston PD is continually threatening to arrest people recording them in public for 'loitering'.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
http://www.nytimes.com/gwire/2011/0...ce-chief-fired-for-whistle-blowing-49802.html

http://employmentlawgroupblog.com/2012/01/20/ohio-police-sergeant-files-whistleblower-suit-claiming-retaliation-after-he-disclosed-police-chief’s-misconduct/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...eblower-suit/2012/02/22/gIQALp9xTR_story.html

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bronx/quota_bombshell_KsJ01AcuWOS3rFvYdCLUmL

http://www.domasjefferson.com/news/...on-corrupt-police-chief-in-quartzsite-arizona

http://quartzsitearizona.blogspot.com/2011/09/quartzsite-fires-whistleblower-cops.html

http://www.newworldorderreport.com/...-officers-of-under-reporting-crime-stats.aspx

http://www.newworldorderreport.com/...-officers-of-under-reporting-crime-stats.aspx

http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full...tance=up_to_the_minute_lead_story_left_column
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Your "proof" doesn't prove your assertion. In fact, the first link says:

A federal appeals board Tuesday ordered that Teresa Chambers be reinstated as chief of the U.S. Park Police, seven years after she was fired for telling reporters that her department was understaffed and in need of more funding.

Chambers -- who, after her removal, spent four years unemployed before taking a job as the chief of police in Riverdale Park, Md. -- said she hopes that her long ordeal is now over and that she can now go back to the job that she was first hired for in February 2002. She added that she sees nothing but positives in returning to the U.S. Park Police.
"The people that took these actions against me are all long since gone; they were all political appointees," she said. "It's not the same environment I left. I would hope it's a much more positive environment."
 
\\(())// said:
Your "proof" doesn't prove your assertion. In fact, the first link says:

A federal appeals board Tuesday ordered that Teresa Chambers be reinstated as chief of the U.S. Park Police, seven years after she was fired for telling reporters that her department was understaffed and in need of more funding.

Chambers -- who, after her removal, spent four years unemployed before taking a job as the chief of police in Riverdale Park, Md. -- said she hopes that her long ordeal is now over and that she can now go back to the job that she was first hired for in February 2002. She added that she sees nothing but positives in returning to the U.S. Park Police.
"The people that took these actions against me are all long since gone; they were all political appointees," she said. "It's not the same environment I left. I would hope it's a much more positive environment."
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so 7 years after being fired for whistleblowing is all fine and dandy, because it was eventually corrected? it only took her 4 years to find another job, but thats ok because her whistleblowing retaliation didn't have a permanent effect? that's just plain asinine.
 
yet another reason why government agents should be disarmed.

Judge brandishes loaded handgun at rape victim/witness during testifying.

One North Georgia Judge's dramatic courtroom gesture has state authorities looking into disciplinary action.

The judge in question is David Barrett. The Georgia jurist gave the impression that he was about to mete out some southern justice when he pulled out a concealed weapon during a witness' testimony.

The witness, whose name has been withheld, was called to testify in a bond hearing for a Sheriff's deputy accused of assault and rape. Instead of listening to the testimony of a woman seeking a restraining order against her alleged rapist, the stunned courtroom watched as Judge Barrett used a loaded weapon as a prop to berate the victim/witness for behaving in an uncooperative manner on the stand.

"You're killing your case," Barrett told her.

Get it?

The prosecutor in the case didn't see the humor. She was the one who stepped in to tell the armed judge that his conduct was inappropriate. Prosecuting attorney, Andrea Conarro approached Judge Barrett and asked him to put away the weapon.

"When it happened, I objected and sought to take control of the situation," said Conarro. She later described the incident as "one of those slow motion kind of events."

Judges in Georgia are permitted to carry concealed weapons in court for personal protection, but they aren't supposed to bust them out unless they think their lives are actually in danger. Barrett may ultimately face criminal charges for the display, though none have yet been filed.
 
If we pretend that police officers aren't citizens and therefore have a right to be able to protect their lives we might be able to get to a place where we take away their weapons...

Otherwise, this is a silly concept.
 
Damocles said:
If we pretend that police officers aren't citizens and therefore have a right to be able to protect their lives we might be able to get to a place where we take away their weapons...

Otherwise, this is a silly concept.
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When asked what the Militia was, George Mason, one of the Framers of the U.S. Constitution, said, "Who are the Militia? They consist now of the whole people, except for a few public officers."

it should be noted and very important that by granting a select group of people higher authority and more power over us as citizens with rights, we should enumerate their powers very specifically and remove those powers if abused, i.e. firearms for their official duties. There is nothing silly about this except for the delusions that people have in thinking 'it's always been this way'.
 
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