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Darla
“People who don’t have money don’t understand the stress,” said Alan Dlugash, a partner at accounting firm Marks Paneth & Shron LLP in New York who specializes in financial planning for the wealthy. “Could you imagine what it’s like to say I got three kids in private school, I have to think about pulling them out? How do you do that?”

I even get that on 350 thousand you can't do all of the things you may want to if you have a family and you are looking at second homes, etc. I just don't think it's anything that should elicit pity. But what stuns me is that even though I have zero life experience with this, I do know that there are parents who have to ask "how do you tell your children there's no Santa because there aren't going to be any presents this year at all"? Or, "how do you tell your children that you know they are still hungry, but that's all the food there is today." I don't know if it's because my dad was very poor Brooklyn Irish who had literally nothing, and who experienced both of those things when he was a kid and always impressed that upon us. He gave us so much better, eventually rising to be corporate VP of one of these very institutions on Wall St. But he never didn't get it. He was never one of these assholes. I am thankful.

To me, this guy? No longer really fully human. Once all you can see is you and yours, and you are seriously completely clueless about what "people who don't have money" go through (yeah they have no stress dude!), then you've lost something, or never had it. And I'd rather be poor than be missing that very essential component of being human.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...rawal-means-trading-aspen-for-cheap-chex.html
 
I just read that, my suggestion is he invest in self defense. He will and deserves to get robbed.
His children don't deserve the cold hard reality called the real world they will one day meet.
Since the recession I've read a dozen stories of so called financial experts going broke by losing the income all the while having outlandish spending habits.
 
I remember the line from "Bonfire of the Vanities," where the main character was lamenting that he was going broke on a million bucks a year.

It's funny how fast people can get used to (and max out) higher levels of income. It's all perspective, and what you're used to. It's not really that much different from someone who is on $50K a year complaining about how they can't go out to eat anymore, and how that must sound to someone below the poverty level, or from a 3rd world country.
 
Onceler said:
I remember the line from "Bonfire of the Vanities," where the main character was lamenting that he was going broke on a million bucks a year.

It's funny how fast people can get used to (and max out) higher levels of income. It's all perspective, and what you're used to. It's not really that much different from someone who is on $50K a year complaining about how they can't go out to eat anymore, and how that must sound to someone below the poverty level, or from a 3rd world country.
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I agree. It's not that, it's the complete lack of any empathy for others, and the complete cluelessness about how lucky they still are, relatively speaking.

It's sick, IMO.
 
Darla said:
“People who don’t have money don’t understand the stress,” said Alan Dlugash, a partner at accounting firm Marks Paneth & Shron LLP in New York who specializes in financial planning for the wealthy. “Could you imagine what it’s like to say I got three kids in private school, I have to think about pulling them out? How do you do that?”

I even get that on 350 thousand you can't do all of the things you may want to if you have a family and you are looking at second homes, etc. I just don't think it's anything that should elicit pity. But what stuns me is that even though I have zero life experience with this, I do know that there are parents who have to ask "how do you tell your children there's no Santa because there aren't going to be any presents this year at all"? Or, "how do you tell your children that you know they are still hungry, but that's all the food there is today." I don't know if it's because my dad was very poor Brooklyn Irish who had literally nothing, and who experienced both of those things when he was a kid and always impressed that upon us. He gave us so much better, eventually rising to be corporate VP of one of these very institutions on Wall St. But he never didn't get it. He was never one of these assholes. I am thankful.

To me, this guy? No longer really fully human. Once all you can see is you and yours, and you are seriously completely clueless about what "people who don't have money" go through (yeah they have no stress dude!), then you've lost something, or never had it. And I'd rather be poor than be missing that very essential component of being human.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...rawal-means-trading-aspen-for-cheap-chex.html
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Unless they go through the experience of literally losing it all. That can be a very liberating experience. My trip from being a card carrying politically active Republican in the late 80's and early 90's to alienation and defection began with losing everything I had but the shirt on my back.
 
To me it's like what Oneceler said, it's about your level of expectation. Is it is stress like where is my next meal coming from or can I survive past my next paycheck? No it is not. But can it be very stressful on a person or family? Yes.

If you are a highly driven and competitive person and you are competing in the world of the 1% and you want to live in THE best neighborhood and send your children to THE best schools and belong to THE best club in town yes life can get very stressful. By this I'm not suggesting they are owed sympathy from everyone else. This is a lifestyle and stress of their choosing. But it can be stressful nonetheless and I've seen it with friends and co-workers. From the outside it looks like they have everything but on the inside things aren't good.
 
cawacko said:
To me it's like what Oneceler said, it's about your level of expectation. Is it is stress like where is my next meal coming from or can I survive past my next paycheck? No it is not. But can it be very stressful on a person or family? Yes.

If you are a highly driven and competitive person and you are competing in the world of the 1% and you want to live in THE best neighborhood and send your children to THE best schools and belong to THE best club in town yes life can get very stressful. By this I'm not suggesting they are owed sympathy from everyone else. This is a lifestyle and stress of their choosing. But it can be stressful nonetheless and I've seen it with friends and co-workers. From the outside it looks like they have everything but on the inside things aren't good.
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No one disputes that it can be stressful, but to say something like this "“People who don’t have money don’t understand the stress” is . . . I don't know what it is. I have a hard time coming up with words to describe it. Being fucking poor is fucking stressful and not in the "I have to live a slightly less lavish lifestyle that I am accustomed to living" sense.
 
cawacko said:
To me it's like what Oneceler said, it's about your level of expectation. Is it is stress like where is my next meal coming from or can I survive past my next paycheck? No it is not. But can it be very stressful on a person or family? Yes.

If you are a highly driven and competitive person and you are competing in the world of the 1% and you want to live in THE best neighborhood and send your children to THE best schools and belong to THE best club in town yes life can get very stressful. By this I'm not suggesting they are owed sympathy from everyone else. This is a lifestyle and stress of their choosing. But it can be stressful nonetheless and I've seen it with friends and co-workers. From the outside it looks like they have everything but on the inside things aren't good.
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That's fine, but why would you state "people with no money don't know how stressful it is, how do you tell your 3 children you have to pull them out of private school?""

Does anyone here understand that there are thousands of americans who have had to tell their three children they're moving from their house into a fucking tent???

HELLO???
 
Darla said:
That's fine, but why would you state "people with no money don't know how stressful it is, how do you tell your 3 children you have to pull them out of private school?""

Does anyone here understand that there are thousands of americans who have had to tell their three children they're moving from their house into a fucking tent???

HELLO???
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No, I agree. To phrase it that way is to show one who is completely out of touch.
 
Darla said:
That's fine, but why would you state "people with no money don't know how stressful it is, how do you tell your 3 children you have to pull them out of private school?""

Does anyone here understand that there are thousands of americans who have had to tell their three children they're moving from their house into a fucking tent???

HELLO???
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It's interesting; I guess that's one way of reading it, but when I first read it, I didn't read it as him saying that people without money don't understand stress. I saw it more as him saying that they don't understand that people with money have stress too.

He could be meaning it like you interepreted, though....
 
It must really suck to let envy of everyone that has more than you drive your life....

The only thing that pisses me off about the rich is that I'm not one of them, and I'm still happy and thankful for what I do have.
 
Onceler said:
It's interesting; I guess that's one way of reading it, but when I first read it, I didn't read it as him saying that people without money don't understand stress. I saw it more as him saying that they don't understand that people with money have stress too.

He could be meaning it like you interepreted, though....
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Damn, now I have myself completely confused. This is what I initially thought as well, it is a different kind of stress.
 
Onceler said:
It's interesting; I guess that's one way of reading it, but when I first read it, I didn't read it as him saying that people without money don't understand stress. I saw it more as him saying that they don't understand that people with money have stress too.

He could be meaning it like you interepreted, though....
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I agree.....the meaning taken is more a reflection of the readers perspective and character traits.....
 
Onceler said:
It's interesting; I guess that's one way of reading it, but when I first read it, I didn't read it as him saying that people without money don't understand stress. I saw it more as him saying that they don't understand that people with money have stress too.

He could be meaning it like you interepreted, though....
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Since he followed it up with, how do you tell your three children you have to take them out of private school, I don't even see how your reading is possible, but that's me.
 
bravo said:
It must really suck to let envy of everyone that has more than you drive your life....

The only thing that pisses me off about the rich is that I'm not one of them, and I'm still happy and thankful for what I do have.
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Well I guess it takes a clueless mother fucker to understand another clueless mother fucker! LOL
 
cawacko said:
Damn, now I have myself completely confused. This is what I initially thought as well, it is a different kind of stress.
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Well first I think we need to accurately define what stress is.

Stress - Noun; Definition. The anxiety that is derived when ones mind over rides the body's basic desire to strangle the ever loving shit out of some asshole who desperately deserves it.

In this context stress is truly classless as there are a lot of assholes out there. :)
 
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