Pat Robertson Calls For Relaxed Marijuana Possession Laws

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In what way is he "not living it"? Does he run charities? Yes. Does he act as he preaches? As far as I can tell.

Are you upset that he is able to have success working basically as a community organizer for his religious views? Yeah, I can tell you are.

However, this is not 'evidence' of his hypocrisy, only of your immense dislike of him and his religious views.
 
In what way is he "not living it"? Does he run charities? Yes. Does he act as he preaches? As far as I can tell.

Are you upset that he is able to have success working basically as a community organizer for his religious views? Yeah, I can tell you are.

However, this is not 'evidence' of his hypocrisy, only of your immense dislike of him and his religious views.

I have no problem with religious veiws whatsoever, if anything I am thankful that there is a generaly accepted moral code available for many to follow.

I do have problems with;
1. Evangelists
2. Television evangelists in particular
3. Wealthy TV evangelists who solicit donations from the poor.

Charitable work is NOT idicative of a good soul. Huge charities were started by the greediest of men.
 
I have no problem with religious veiws whatsoever, if anything I am thankful that there is a generaly accepted moral code available for many to follow.

I do have problems with;
1. Evangelists
2. Television evangelists in particular
3. Wealthy TV evangelists who solicit donations from the poor.

Charitable work is NOT idicative of a good soul. Huge charities were started by the greediest of men.

I understand your viewpoint, but it has absolutely no bearing at all. Pat Robertson has broken no laws. I have a problem with people using the system to profit and commit fraud. Let's take care of the real criminals first. No one is forcing people to donate to Christian evangelists and the fact that some are poor has absolutely no bearing.
 
Need some more, huh? What has Robertson's stand been on illegal drug use for the majority of his career? Opposed. Yes, that alone was being hypocritical AS PROVEN BY HIS REVERSAL.

He probably wants to grow it or profit now, donations are down so he needs the revenue. He is a man of greed. His organization invested in "blood diamonds". There is a definite disconnect with Robertson.
 
I have no problem with religious veiws whatsoever, if anything I am thankful that there is a generaly accepted moral code available for many to follow.

I do have problems with;
1. Evangelists
2. Television evangelists in particular
3. Wealthy TV evangelists who solicit donations from the poor.

Charitable work is NOT idicative of a good soul. Huge charities were started by the greediest of men.

However, none of this is indicative of hypocrisy. Does Pat Robertson do what he says you should? All indications are that he actually does. While you may have a problem with him, it isn't "hypocrisy", that word is misapplied here. Had he said that nobody should preach on TV then went on to preach on TV there would be an indication of hypocrisy. However, he doesn't say that. Does he solicit money for his Christian charities? Yes. Does he bring in a salary as a Pastor that is also on TV? Yes. Does he say nobody should draw a salary for that work? No.

All of the things you list are your problem with Pat, but they aren't hypocrisy.
 
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supporting jailing for pot is certainly not being very christian!!!
He may be switching to pro pot because the majority now are pro pot.
He needs to stay with the time to keep the money rolling in.
 
He probably wants to grow it or profit now, donations are down so he needs the revenue. He is a man of greed. His organization invested in "blood diamonds". There is a definite disconnect with Robertson.

It is important to understand the breathtaking hypocrisy of Robertson’s comment attributing Haiti’s current suffering as a result of a pact with Satan. As is so often the case with evil people, they accuse others of things which they, themselves are guilty. During the 1990’s, Pat Robertson was involved in business ventures with both the late Mobutu Sese Seko, the dictator of Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo) for over 30 years and Charles Taylor of Liberia and Sierra Leone infamy, currently being tried for war crimes in The Hague.

According to a report in the Virginian-Pilot on May 2, 1999, Mobutu granted Robertson diamond mining rights in Zaire in the early 1990’s. Robertson used the planes owned by his "relief" organization "Operation Blessing" almost exclusively to ferry diamond mining equipment to Zaire according to two pilots who flew for Operation Blessing. According to an article in The Nation, the Virginia Department of Consumer Affairs conducted a lengthy investigation and called for an indictment in 1999 based on the determination that Robertson, "willfully induced contributions from the public through the use of misleading statements and other implications." However, Virginia’s Attorney General at the time, Republican Mark Early declined to indict Robertson. Early’s largest campaign contribution to date -- $35,000—had come from Robertson’s PAC. Early claimed that the campaign contribution had nothing to do with his decision not to indict Robertson.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/01/14/825050/-Pat-Robertson-Freedom-Gold-and-Blood-Diamonds

Pot Robertson, who cares? Does anybody beside the poor bible belters really believe his dribble?
 
I understand your viewpoint, but it has absolutely no bearing at all. Pat Robertson has broken no laws. I have a problem with people using the system to profit and commit fraud. Let's take care of the real criminals first. No one is forcing people to donate to Christian evangelists and the fact that some are poor has absolutely no bearing.

That's great, but I never said he broke any laws. I said he is a hypocrite.
 
However, none of this is indicative of hypocrisy. Does Pat Robertson do what he says you should? All indications are that he actually does. While you may have a problem with him, it isn't "hypocrisy", that word is misapplied here. Had he said that nobody should preach on TV then went on to preach on TV there would be an indication of hypocrisy. However, he doesn't say that. Does he solicit money for his Christian charities? Yes. Does he bring in a salary as a Pastor that is also on TV? Yes. Does he say nobody should draw a salary for that work? No.

All of the things you list are your problem with Pat, but they aren't hypocrisy.

Didn't say they were. Just relaying my stance, in response to your comment.
 
supporting jailing for pot is certainly not being very christian!!!
He may be switching to pro pot because the majority now are pro pot.
He needs to stay with the time to keep the money rolling in.

Nothing hypocritical there, according to the great cleaver of truth.
 
Everyone's a hypocrite in some way. We're all human and fallible.

Yet when one claims the mantle of relaying the word of God, ones acts as if infallible and is certainly accepted as such by those who would donate to said person.
 
Yet when one claims the mantle of relaying the word of God, ones acts as if infallible and is certainly accepted as such by those who would donate to said person.

PT Barnum said: "There's a sucker born every minute".

Get over it.
 
Can you give it a rest now? You flogged so many dead horses on here, you could start up a boucherie chevaline.

dune is the one keeping it going by constantly making confusing posts. why can't you just admit you read his posts? oh i get it, you have to protect your fellow posse member from humiliation and instead attack me. why aren't you bitching at him for continually posting about it?

your double standards are duly noted. asshole.
 
In the post I quoted you said it nearly word for word.

You said his "reversal" was hypocritical. That is flat saying that changing his opinion is hypocritical. Which is a misapplication of the word at the very best and a direct purposeful misdirection at the worst.

At some point an intelligent person would stop after it was clear they were so very wrong.

this.

and no surprise tom doesn't bitch at damo for taking dune to task.
 
an entirely reasonable assumption. my grandmother (RIP) went through that very same scenario. i don't want to give out details, but her children convinced her and she was greatful for it. despite her life long stance against it.

tbo....i don't think you should hold that against anyone. sometimes it takes extraordinary circumstances to change someone's opinion. or maybe towards the end they see things differently. i would hope you're not mocking him for this.

As a cancer survivor myself I can say definitely I was not mocking him at all.

People develop attitudes about certain things from what they are told over the course of their lives. My mother always thought marijuana was "EVIL" because of all the propaganda out there, but when she was in her 60's, she tried a little for relief of her arthritis and it almost literally changed her attitude towards pot overnight.
 
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